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posted by janrinok on Thursday December 07 2017, @01:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the and-a-polite-discussion-ensued... dept.

Recently published in Journal of Social and Political Psychology by Thomas F. Pettigrew seeks to understand the psychological profile of Trump supporters:

The Trump movement is not singular within the United States (the Know Nothing movement in the 1850s, the Wallace movement in the 1960s, and the more recent Tea Party Movement). Moreover, other democracies have seen similar movements (e.g., Austria's Freedom Party, Belgium's Vlaams Blok, France's National Front, Germany's Alternative for Germany Party (AfD), and Britain's U.K. Independence Party (UKIP).

In virtually all these cases, the tinder especially involved male nativists and populists who were less educated than the general population. But this core was joined by other types of voters as well. Five highly interrelated characteristics stand out that are central to a social psychological analysis – authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, outgroup prejudice, the absence of intergroup contact and relative deprivation.No one factor describes Trump's supporters. But an array of factors – many of them reflecting five major social psychological phenomena can help to account for this extraordinary political event: authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, prejudice, relative deprivation, and intergroup contact.


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  • (Score: 5, Disagree) by Fishscene on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:48PM (7 children)

    by Fishscene (4361) on Thursday December 07 2017, @02:48PM (#606802)

    I didn't come to Soylent News so I could read articles like this. Trump is our President, the Hillary supporters lost. Deal with it. Get over yourself. Stop this stupid nonsense trying to put down your fellow man as "less educated" and "prejudice". This isn't the first time a side has lost. In fact, it happens EVERY election. But this article is straight up wrong.
    Just for Science, and to demonstrate how wrong this article is, let's replace "Trump Supporters" with some hot-button "types" of folks and see how well it might go over with readers:
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            The Black movement is not singular within the United States (the Know Nothing movement in the 1850s, the Wallace movement in the 1960s, and the more recent Tea Party Movement). Moreover, other democracies have seen similar movements (e.g., Austria's Freedom Party, Belgium's Vlaams Blok, France's National Front, Germany's Alternative for Germany Party (AfD), and Britain's U.K. Independence Party (UKIP).

            In virtually all these cases, the tinder especially involved female nativists and populists who were less educated than the general population. But this core was joined by other types of Black Supporters as well. Five highly interrelated characteristics stand out that are central to a social psychological analysis – authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, outgroup prejudice, the absence of intergroup contact and relative deprivation.No one factor describes Black supporters. But an array of factors – many of them reflecting five major social psychological phenomena can help to account for this extraordinary political event: authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, prejudice, relative deprivation, and intergroup contact.
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            The White movement is not singular within the United States (the Know Nothing movement in the 1850s, the Wallace movement in the 1960s, and the more recent Tea Party Movement). Moreover, other democracies have seen similar movements (e.g., Austria's Freedom Party, Belgium's Vlaams Blok, France's National Front, Germany's Alternative for Germany Party (AfD), and Britain's U.K. Independence Party (UKIP).

            In virtually all these cases, the tinder especially involved female nativists and populists who were less educated than the general population. But this core was joined by other types of White Supporters as well. Five highly interrelated characteristics stand out that are central to a social psychological analysis – authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, outgroup prejudice, the absence of intergroup contact and relative deprivation.No one factor describes White supporters. But an array of factors – many of them reflecting five major social psychological phenomena can help to account for this extraordinary political event: authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, prejudice, relative deprivation, and intergroup contact.
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    This is how divisive and back-water this article appears to me. Just... stop.
           

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:13PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @05:13PM (#606872)

    Cute copypasta but what is your point? Where is your article? Did it get peer reviewed? Published?

    And as you can read in the article, this is not just about Trump lovers but such people all over the world. Science is still science if it upsets you. You deal with it.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Fishscene on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:18PM (2 children)

      by Fishscene (4361) on Thursday December 07 2017, @06:18PM (#606916)

      1) Please post under your account name, like I did. Put your name to your words.
      2) My point is clear: You can replace (group of people) with another group and suddenly it sounds like hatred, bigotry, racist, etc... It's an article NO ONE would have published if they didn't want the Internet to absolutely nuts. But because it's "Trump Supporters" and "male", it's suddenly ok? NO.
      3) You don't call millions of people the kinds of things this article calls them and expect me NOT to call out the article and the submitter here on Soylent.
      4) Republicans ARE NOT the answer to everything. Democrats ARE NOT the answer to everything. Same with any political group - Especially in the United States.
      5) The article is more madness and opinion than Science. When was the last time Science belittled (group of people)? I'd wager the best examples were shortly followed by some of the worst acts in human history. I'm talking Slavery in the United States, Germany and the Jews around WWII, etc...

      So no. I won't be complicit and sit by while madness like this article gets scattered around.

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      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 07 2017, @07:17PM (#606950)

        Your search/replace does not work. Why? Because the details of those groups vary. This IS science, the fuzzy social science stuff. Not 100% accurate and reliable like electron counters and precision scales. Studying the factors behind populist movements seems like a very worthy pursuit, perhaps in the future we can recognize when dissatisfaction is growing and start fixing problems before they blow up.

        Article is not madness, that is simply what it generated in you.

      • (Score: 2) by gottabeme on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:27PM

        by gottabeme (1531) on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:27PM (#606977)

        Don't waste your virtual breath responding to trolls like that. What they hate most is being ignored, because it demonstrates how irrelevant they are.

  • (Score: 2, Troll) by gottabeme on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:25PM

    by gottabeme (1531) on Thursday December 07 2017, @08:25PM (#606975)

    Hear, hear. Sick of this clickbait, self-congratulatory, "I'm thankful that we're not as stupid as THEY are" garbage.

    The people who honestly believe that (not sure how many actually do, vs. how many say so) are literally delusional, thinking that everyone who disagrees with them is the embodiment of evil and stupidity, except for those who are just ignorant--if only they'd watch the same TV and read the same web sites they do, then they'd understand!

    Surely it is the hallmark of a dying political movement when one refuses to learn from its failures and doubles down instead. "Double-deplorable" isn't going to win in 2020.

    Spare us all. Keep this stuff off Soylent.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by meustrus on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:47PM

    by meustrus (4961) on Thursday December 07 2017, @10:47PM (#607024)

    Your science stinks, but there is a useful point in a response [soylentnews.org]:

    You can replace (group of people) with another group and suddenly it sounds like hatred, bigotry, racist, etc... It's an article NO ONE would have published if they didn't want the Internet to absolutely nuts. But because it's "Trump Supporters" and "male", it's suddenly ok? NO.

    Your copypasta doesn't sound like "hatred, bigotry, racist, etc." because it's utterly incoherent. But that doesn't mean somebody else couldn't have made a coherent example. There are many real examples, however, of such sociology [wikipedia.org].

    Yes, the white male Trump supporter is a uniquely acceptable target for bigotry right now. But that's because all other targets have become unacceptable, and white males are still socially dominant in the US. It's a good time for us all to start thinking of them as a minority, however. The legal arguments around the anti-gay baker case show that evangelicals at least are beginning to accept that their power over the rest of us is waning, leaving only individual liberty for them to maintain. The white male, the rural class, and the intersection thereof is figuring it out too.

    The main thing standing in the way of the white male's acceptance into the diverse range of minorities is their belief in their own exceptionalism. When it erodes, I expect we will see a slow death of anti-PC rhetoric as those people start insisting that articles like this stop targeting them. If not, the white male may end up the target of more serious retribution as the former targets of prejudice will not be willing to hear calls for tolerance from the intolerant.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @05:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @05:18AM (#607100)

    Trump is our President,

    WTF are you, an American? Not my president. Thank FSM.