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posted by takyon on Friday December 08 2017, @11:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the Mein-cyberbullying-Kampf dept.

The idea of suing a website might seem abhorrent to advocates of free speech on the internet, but maybe one case shows that it can be justified?

Whitefish Woman's Lawsuit Over 'Daily Stormer' Harassment Proceeding

The Missoulian is reporting [archive] that a Whitefish woman's lawsuit against a Nazi website is going forward.

Montana Public Radio reports that Andrew Anglin, publisher of The Daily Stormer, is being sued by an individual the website targeted because of the mother of Richard Spencer:

The Daily Stormer called for readers to harass her and her family over her dealings with the mother of white nationalist Richard Spencer.

Image of part of the complaint (PDF).

Northwestern Montana, however, has had some experience in dealing with neo-Nazis in the neighborhood.


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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by bradley13 on Friday December 08 2017, @08:55PM (4 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Friday December 08 2017, @08:55PM (#607415) Homepage Journal

    "Oh god, not this again: I thought everybody knew that the Nazis only put "socialist" in their name in the first place because it sounded good for recruitment."

    That's a nice little fantasy you've built up, but you should really go read your history.

    Hitler on Nazism: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism". Nazi Germany exerted national control of the means of production, direct national control of the entire economy. That is the very definition of socialism.

    The thing is: the extreme right and the extreme left are actually the same damned thing. The map wraps around. Whether you're a right-wing tyrant or a left-wing socialist, it's all about state power, about telling those stupid peons (i.e. all of us) what they have to do.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @09:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @09:03PM (#607422)

    Yeah, but all these alt-right alt-white guys are all in favor of socialism. Almost all of them are on government military pensions, disability, unemployment (more of them, recently), or other "socialist" programs. Perhaps you are confusing them with their funders, like the "libertarian" (when the rich say this, is just means "less taxes for me" libertarianism) Kock Bros.?

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by tangomargarine on Friday December 08 2017, @09:09PM (1 child)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday December 08 2017, @09:09PM (#607429)

    Yes, Hitler lied a lot that the Nazis were Socialist. But that didn't make it true. Look at what he did, not what he said: rounding up trade unionists and communists.

    Go look it up on Snopes [snopes.com] or something.

    For members of the Nazi Party, in fact, defending socialism on its own terms was a risky activity which could result in ejection from the party, or worse. Of party leader and dissenter Otto Strasser (whose similarly-minded brother, Gregor, would ultimately be assassinated by the Nazis), William Shirer writes:

    Unfortunately for him, he had taken seriously not only the word “socialist” but the word “workers” in the party’s official name of National Socialist German Workers’ Party. He had supported certain strikes of the socialist trade unions and demanded that the party come out for nationalization of industry. This of course was heresy to Hitler, who accused Otto Strasser of professing the cardinal sins of “democracy and liberalism.” On May 21 and 22, 1930, the Fuehrer had a showdown with his rebellious subordinate and demanded complete submission. When Otto refused, he was booted out of the party.

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    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday December 09 2017, @03:48AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Saturday December 09 2017, @03:48AM (#607598) Homepage

      Well, in that case, Lenin lied a lot that the USSR was communist.

      The problem is that both species of workers' paradise require enforcement at gunpoint.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @11:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 08 2017, @11:02PM (#607492)

    Nazi Germany exerted national control of the means of production, direct national control of the entire economy. That is the very definition of socialism.

    History disagrees with you here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany [wikipedia.org]

    Actually looks like they spoke about nationalization, which they sometimes did. On the other hand they also privatized quite a lot. So all over the place and deemed unimportant.