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posted by janrinok on Monday December 25 2017, @03:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the freedom-or-security dept.

Several of the programs Snowden revealed are authorized under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendments Act. The 2008 law was scheduled to sunset on December 31, but in a last-ditch effort Thursday, Congress extend its authority through January 19.

The Trump administration, meanwhile, believes that the authorization doesn't really expire until April, leaving lawmakers several months to either reform or strengthen the provision. Hanging in the balance is the legal framework the government largely relies on to conduct mass surveillance of foreigners, and Americans who communicate with them. Which makes it all the more concerning that the fight over Section 702's future has taken place largely in the dark.

Source : Congress Is Debating Warrantless Surveillance in the Dark


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @07:54AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @07:54AM (#614045)

    You can have all sorts of trust and freedom and privacy and cooperation in a monocultural society. We've screwed the pooch on that one. We imported people who will always despise us. There goes the trust and freedom and privacy and cooperation. It was nice.

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  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 25 2017, @09:40AM (7 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 25 2017, @09:40AM (#614055) Homepage Journal

    I would argue about the monocultural state. I mean, that's what the white supremacists are all about. Take a look at Canada. They may not have things "right", but they've got them more right than we have. The problem in both countries is that we've overdone that diversity bullshit, and we're actively inviting enemies of Western civilization into our countries. Ban the Muslims, and a lot of thigs will start getting right. No, things won't get right within your generation, but maybe in about three generations. As long as we keep inviting enemies here to live, things can only get worse.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Monday December 25 2017, @12:34PM (2 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday December 25 2017, @12:34PM (#614073) Homepage
      The US is screwed until it realises that the way to battle the inane believers of some angry sky fairy is not to resort to beliefs in a different angry sky fairy. Every major player in US politics makes non-ironic reference to "god", and the majority of the voting masses lap that up.

      Happy arrival of the asexual budding of the angry space fairy day.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @10:59PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @10:59PM (#614163)

        There is exactly one major religion that is unable to ever have peace with any other religion. This one religion has conquest as a core belief. There can be no peace in the world for as long as this one religion exists.

        There is the idea that there would be peace if everybody converted... but we have seen time and time again that subgroups declare each other to be false believers, and then the killing starts. There can be no peace for as long as this religion is upon the Earth.

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 26 2017, @09:15AM

          by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday December 26 2017, @09:15AM (#614250) Homepage
          Your "we must destroy this other thing" rant *PROVES MY POINT*.

          Society, education, and technology should advance so that members of all religions look at us and say "fuck this shit, I don't like being backward", in contrast to the current "Fuck those idiots, I'm proud to be different". Change from within, not without.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @12:35PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @12:35PM (#614074)

      The problem is that "enemies" tend to also be friends depending on your timeline. The UK as obvious example.

      If you're talking within 3 generations, we need to be worried about the Germans in WW1 and about 1/2 the countries in the world the US has bombed since then.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @02:03PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25 2017, @02:03PM (#614088)

        For about 1400 years now, Islam has never been the friend of any Christian, or of any Christian nation. For that matter they have never been the friend of any other religion, or any nation whose government was not Islamic. Muslims have no friends, outside of Islam.

        • (Score: 4, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday December 25 2017, @03:55PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday December 25 2017, @03:55PM (#614100) Journal

          Not so. The greedy fossil fuel types love them some Muslims, or at least certain tribal groups of them like the Saudis.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 26 2017, @03:32AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 26 2017, @03:32AM (#614212)

          Hey moron, there are millions upon millions of Muslims that don't go in for the death and conquest. The children of these more moderate Muslims are even more moderate, to the point where I'd prefer them over some of the Christians in the world.

          Mooooooronnnnnnnn.