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posted by martyb on Thursday January 11 2018, @09:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the My-button-is-bigger-than-your-button dept.

International Business Times reports:

...one of the biggest challenges Nasa has faced in recent years is not in terms of technological development, but rather dealing with the orders of politicians and flat budgets. This major shift in focus of the human spaceflight programme is happening for the third time in as many government changes.

"We're always asked to change directions every time we get a new president, and that just causes you to do negative work, work that doesn't matter," Scott Kelly, the astronaut who spent nearly a year in space aboard the International Space Station (ISS), told the Post. "I just hope someday we'll have a president that will say, 'You know what, we'll just leave Nasa on the course they are on, and see what Nasa can achieve if we untie their hands,'" he added.

The space agency's change in direction has upset many in the space community, said Scott Hubbard, former director of the Nasa Ames Research Center. "Please don't push the reset button again, because you're just going to waste billions of dollars of previous investment," he said he heard people say.

Maybe NASA should plan an array of projects with less than 4 year "point of no return" dates? Then, when directed to change course, change to the closest plan matching the new course and actually get it done. If politicians want longer projects, they need to start guaranteeing the funding to complete them, and accepting realistic estimates about actual time and cost to deliver instead of demanding short schedule bargain budget promises before signing off.


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Thexalon on Thursday January 11 2018, @04:37PM (3 children)

    by Thexalon (636) on Thursday January 11 2018, @04:37PM (#620973)

    The thing is, it's NASA's job to make that case, not the politicians' jobs.

    OK, so let me get this straight: NASA's leaders go to the politicians and say "This is the cool stuff we've been working on. We'd like to continue doing that, please, because we'll be able to show some really great results in a few years." Politician says "Well, that's nice, but what I'd really want you to do is this other thing, so that I can go down in history as the guy who announced the grand mission you guys do in a decade." And you proceed to blame NASA for that, even though they weren't the one who made that stupid decision.

    What's really to blame, of course, is short-termism: If it takes longer than 2 years to do something, congressmen don't want to hear about it, because they can't go back to their constituents and say "Look what I did!". If it takes longer than 4 years, presidents don't like it, for the same reason. And if it takes longer than 6 years, senators don't like it. This leads to a conflict between "We've been to the Moon before, so going there isn't as big a deal." and "It will take too long to get to Mars for me to be able to show ROI, so we shouldn't bother." And thus they leave the manned NASA programs floundering.

    One thing that might help is acknowledging the efforts of the Johnson and Nixon administrations to make sure the Apollo program continued, rather than focusing on JFK's declaration of the goal in the first place.

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  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday January 11 2018, @06:06PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 11 2018, @06:06PM (#621006)

    "Good morning, Mr New President! Under the current schedule, we will launch to $space_body in 3.5 years, based on your providing us with a 10% annual budget raise. We were trying to find a good codename for the first launch of that mission, something that would sound good for your intro at the next Party Convention. Any suggestions ? "

    NASA has the perfect example of ego-driven politician to retrain themselves in proper selling techniques...

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday January 11 2018, @07:56PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 11 2018, @07:56PM (#621059) Journal

    OK, so let me get this straight: NASA's leaders go to the politicians and say "This is the cool stuff we've been working on. We'd like to continue doing that, please, because we'll be able to show some really great results in a few years." Politician says "Well, that's nice, but what I'd really want you to do is this other thing, so that I can go down in history as the guy who announced the grand mission you guys do in a decade." And you proceed to blame NASA for that, even though they weren't the one who made that stupid decision. Yes, I do. It's their job to make the case not the politician's job.

    What's really to blame, of course, is short-termism: If it takes longer than 2 years to do something, congressmen don't want to hear about it, because they can't go back to their constituents and say "Look what I did!". If it takes longer than 4 years, presidents don't like it, for the same reason. And if it takes longer than 6 years, senators don't like it. This leads to a conflict between "We've been to the Moon before, so going there isn't as big a deal." and "It will take too long to get to Mars for me to be able to show ROI, so we shouldn't bother." And thus they leave the manned NASA programs floundering.

    Let us note that NASA sticks around while the presidents don't. Another reason why it should be NASA's job to make the case for long term missions.

    One thing that might help is acknowledging the efforts of the Johnson and Nixon administrations to make sure the Apollo program continued, rather than focusing on JFK's declaration of the goal in the first place.

    I think Apollo illustrates the other side of this problem. NASA also needs to be advocating stuff that is viable and useful. An alarming portion of its long term manned projects have been remarkably useless in the long term. For example, after 1975, there was almost no technological legacy from Apollo. Well over $100 billion in present money spending with the only long term consequence being some moon rocks and the first space station. Same goes for the Shuttle. Great demonstration that reusable technology can work - then they flew it for another 30 years and never did get around to building a successor. And what is the ISS doing now that'll be useful to us once it is no longer in space?

    Even on the unmanned side way too much of its technology is one-off and never to be used again. Even when such technology is reused (as with Mars atmospheric entry systems) it's with a handful of missions.

    We can speak glibly of how unfair it is that NASA projects aren't continued by subsequent presidencies. But it's not the job of presidents to continue the work of their predecessors. That work needs to be justified and it can't due to the relatively meaningless (keep in mind that the US spends a lot of money on these missions, extraordinary costs require extraordinary justifications) nature of the work that NASA routinely does.

  • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday January 12 2018, @01:04AM

    by dry (223) on Friday January 12 2018, @01:04AM (#621214) Journal

    One thing that might help is acknowledging the efforts of the Johnson and Nixon administrations to make sure the Apollo program continued, rather than focusing on JFK's declaration of the goal in the first place.

    Wasn't it mostly due to Kennedy getting shot that Apollo happened? Even then, by Apollo 12 the public was bored and Nixon basically killed it.