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A federal grand jury in Washington, DC has indicted 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet firm on charges that they had meddled in the 2016 presidential election.
The US government said Russian entities began interfering in US political processes, including the 2016 presidential election, as early as 2014, according to a court document.
[...] The charges – which include conspiracy, wire fraud, bank fraud and aggravated identity theft – are the most direct allegations to date of illegal Russian meddling in the election.
Link to the Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download
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Mueller Investigation: Thirteen Russians Charged With Interfering in US Election
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(Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Monday February 19 2018, @06:02PM (10 children)
This investigation sounds like a messy twisting plate full of spaghetti.
(Score: -1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:32PM (1 child)
Russia was encouraging anti-Trump protests after the election. Michael Moore went, and there had the nerve to claim that Trump was connected to Russia!
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/19/michael-moore-russian-anti-trump-rally/ [dailycaller.com]
This is not to say that Russia actually supports Clinton, though they might. It's possible that Russia would have made an effort to generate anti-Clinton protests had she won. In other words, Russia just likes to stir up trouble. On the other hand, she was easy to buy off, with her husband taking $500,000 for a speech in Moscow right before she approved the Uranium One company sale and the uranium exports. Russia may well have wanted her for that reason, despite the supposed poor relations. Poor relations can be a negotiating tactic.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @09:50PM
shhh.. please that goes against the narrative... and heads will explode.
(Score: 0, Informative) by frojack on Monday February 19 2018, @07:35PM (5 children)
None of these Russians will ever be arrested or put on trial. This is all for show by a special prosecutor who can't find an actual crime.
(Full year before Trump announced his candidacy).
Count 12: They paid some guy in the US (Unindicted co-conspirator?) to stand in front of the white house with a sign wishing happy 55th birthday to their (un-named) boss so he could be photographed.
Count 14: Some guy in Russia had a meeting with some other guy in Russia. Content of meeting not disclosed.
Count 16: Somebody purchased a laptop in the US and rented a server node
Count 18: Someone served as a translator
Count 19: A translator tried to get a visa to visit the US, but was denied
The whole thing is laughable. Stuff the CIA does in every country around the world.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 5, Informative) by meustrus on Monday February 19 2018, @10:15PM (4 children)
That's kind of how federal charges work. They pick bad guys, then find whatever they can to charge them with. Sometimes all they can do is "lying to a federal agent", when the federal agent was the investigator looking for evidence of a different crime.
This is not to say that they don't get actual bad guys this way. Most organized crime bosses and white collar criminals have covered their asses well enough that there isn't enough evidence to convict them for the crimes they actually committed.
In this case, though, these charges are most likely intended to be leverage to get them to cooperate as witnesses against a bigger target. This investigation is not over.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @11:20PM (2 children)
These are Russians in Russia, obviously not going to cooperate with anything.
You're expecting a bigger target? What, should we charge Putin? Sure. We'll just send the FBI over to arrest him in the Kremlin.
Or are you still clinging to some hopeless Trump-related fantasy? You must love Pence, because that wouldn't give you Bernie or even Hillary. You get Pence. Pence, Pence, Pence, glorious Pence, wonderful Pence!
(Score: 4, Interesting) by meustrus on Tuesday February 20 2018, @01:34AM (1 child)
I’m not hoping for anything but knowing the truth. Anyway, since impeachment is the process for removing the President, and even this relatively fast-paced investigation [fivethirtyeight.com] is unlikely to wrap up before the 2018 midterm makes impeachment politically possible.
And before you try to tell me the Republicans will keep Congress, remember that the minority party almost always makes huge gains in the midterms. It’s just as likely as the opposition winning a presidential election without an incumbent.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @03:10AM
It happens to be that lots of the senate seats up for reelection are currently held by democrats in areas that voted for Trump. In 2018, the republicans can't lose seats that are elected in 2014/2020 or in 2016/2022.
This oddity makes a gain in the senate probable. The republicans are likely to gain an additional seat or two.
Democrats will probably gain lots of seats in the house, but not enough to flip control. Democrats are way behind in the house.
(Score: 1) by DeVilla on Wednesday February 21 2018, @01:32AM
Problem is, the same is also true of innocent people.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @05:38AM (1 child)
MMMM...spaghetti!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:02PM
MMMM... Mueller's Spaghetti!
Since no one else gets it: http://muellerspasta.com/our-products/semolina-pasta/spaghetti/ [muellerspasta.com]
Now I'm really getting spaghetti hungry :P