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posted by Fnord666 on Monday February 19 2018, @05:43PM   Printer-friendly
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A federal grand jury in Washington, DC has indicted 13 Russian nationals and a Kremlin-linked internet firm on charges that they had meddled in the 2016 presidential election.

The US government said Russian entities began interfering in US political processes, including the 2016 presidential election, as early as 2014, according to a court document.

[...] The charges – which include conspiracy, wire fraud, bank fraud and aggravated identity theft – are the most direct allegations to date of illegal Russian meddling in the election.

Video - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/us-election-2016-russia-robert-mueller-investigation-fbi-latest-updates-a8214651.html

Link to the Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 19 2018, @06:12PM (15 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday February 19 2018, @06:12PM (#640175) Journal

    For those of you playing along at home that brings Mueller's score to 3 guilty pleas and 15 indictments.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:10PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:10PM (#640199)

    Who's on the other side of this leader board? How many points does that translate to? 6 for a guilty plea and 3 for an indictment? 63 points so far?

    I didn't vote for a pussy-grabber so I don't really care what his team's score is. It will be a very long time before I throw my vote away on the D team again.

    If the D team couldn't even win against a pussy-grabber, if the D team couldn't even convince a majority of white women to vote against a pussy-grabber, their credibility is shot to hell. It's time to look at the Green Party [gp.org] for a political party with a progressive platform.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:28PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:28PM (#640209)

      Context is everything, young Pud-a-wan. Pussy-grabbing sounds so vulgar, yes? But, for the right man, for Prince Charming, women are happy to be grabbed. Go visit any meat locker in any city on a Saturday night. You'll find plenty of women trying to find the right man to grab them. They went to the meat market, looking for some meat, not for flowers.

      Speaking of flowers - why do women mutilate the genitalia of plants? Do they hate plants that much?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @05:47AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @05:47AM (#640489)

        The difference is *consent* moron.

        Are you familiar with that term?

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:56AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @09:56AM (#640569)

          Consent? As in they (the women) just let you?

          "When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:12PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:12PM (#640203)

    Keeping foreigners from meddling in our elections is important. I assume you support strong ID requirements for voters... or are you a hypocrite?

    But anyway, there was a president who did not properly vet and track these people coming from foreign countries. Nope, not Trump.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Monday February 19 2018, @07:15PM

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 19 2018, @07:15PM (#640205) Journal

      Keeping Americans from meddling in foreign elections is important TOO! or it's tit-for-tat and stop crying!

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Monday February 19 2018, @07:31PM (6 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Monday February 19 2018, @07:31PM (#640212)

      This is not about Russians casting illegal ballots. Don't move the goalposts.

      Some people have to stop shouting "fake news" and "witch hunt", when the people involved keep pleading guilty.

      • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:36PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:36PM (#640218)

        It's identity theft. (not election interference... unless you go vote)

        It's wire fraud. (not election interference)

        It's conspiracy to defraud. (not election interference)

        So, if we're going to care about that stuff, there are a few million people in the USA right now who are committing identity theft.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 19 2018, @08:53PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday February 19 2018, @08:53PM (#640260) Journal

          Using identity theft to interfere with an election is election interference.

          Using wire fraud to illegally donate to a political campaign is election interference.

          Using a conspiracy to hide the fact that you are illegally interfering in an election is election interference.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:37PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @07:37PM (#640219)

        You can't be that naive to not know that people are liable to plea out to something minor, because they can't afford a real defense.

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by bob_super on Monday February 19 2018, @08:04PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Monday February 19 2018, @08:04PM (#640240)

          Those people ? We're not talking about Joe taco-place-owner here.

          They are pleading guilty to try to limit their own sentences, after they got cornered.
          It usually means that they did worse than what they are pleading guilty to, just that it's harder to prove.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @08:54PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @08:54PM (#640261)

        These people mostly aren't even in the country. They aren't pleading anything at all. They aren't even going to be arrested.

        It's like the Chinese military hackers that were charged with computer crimes. Good luck arresting them. You'd have to conquer China.

        It's like the American citizens that were charged in Italy for doing CIA stuff. Italy can bitch all they want, but what can they do? Invading the USA isn't going to go well. Maybe catch the people off-guard, toss them into unmarked vans, and then meet up with a mini-submarine off the coast of Alabama? Good luck with that.

        • (Score: 4, Touché) by Yog-Yogguth on Monday February 19 2018, @09:14PM

          by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 19 2018, @09:14PM (#640269) Journal

          They could always start kidnapping or murdering them like the US already does.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @10:55PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 19 2018, @10:55PM (#640318)

    On Friday, Judge Emmet Sullivan issued an order in United States v. Flynn that reveals that a motion to withdraw the guilty plea based on government misconduct is likely.

    You'll never get what you want. Trump is still your president. All you can manage to do is to cause division, which is exactly what the Russians want.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @02:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 20 2018, @02:21AM (#640402)

      [citation needed]