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Iowa approves one of strictest abortion bills in US
The US state of Iowa has approved one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the country, banning most abortions once a foetal heartbeat is detected. Republican lawmakers, who control both chambers, passed the bill in back-to-back votes, sending it to the governor's desk to sign into law.
If [signed], the bill would ban most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Critics argue the bill makes having an abortion illegal before most women even realise they are pregnant.
[...] If [Governor Kim] Reynolds signs the bill into law, it will likely be challenged in court for possibly violating Roe v Wade, the US Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion in 1973. [...] Some Republican lawmakers welcomed the challenge. "I would love for the United States Supreme Court to look at this bill and have this as a vehicle to overturn Roe v. Wade," Republican Senator Jake Chapman said.
Also at NPR, Reuters, the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier, and The Hill:
Nineteen states adopted a total of 63 restrictions to the procedure in 2017, which is the highest number of state laws on the issue since 2013, according to the Guttmacher Institute. State legislatures have proposed 15 bills that would ban abortions after 20 weeks and 11 bills that would ban abortions if the sole reason is a genetic anomaly like Down syndrome.
Related: Ohio Bill Would Ban Abortion when a Prenatal Test is Positive for Down Syndrome
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(Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:20PM (22 children)
The mother already volunteered to do so when she got pregnant.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:21PM
lol!
(Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Thursday May 03 2018, @07:38PM (1 child)
So did the "sperm donor"! I say we put it in him, instead! Men's Rights! (to pregnancy! Yeah!!!) In fact, maybe we should just put the developing human being in you, since we can't, in this particular instance we have before us, find said donor, and the fetus has an absolute right to life! Grab 'im, boys! Set up the Operating Theatre! We got a "live one"!!
Seriously, if we can be such with slavers and Incels and Trump Evangelical Demon Worshippers, this could be a basis for limiting abortion to a certain time frame. If a woman stays pregnant for months after learning she is pregnant, there is a tacit agreement and consent? So to change one's mind at the last minute, so to speak, might not be right. But retro-active abortion? I always say you should at least wait and see how the kid turns out, and don't make a rash decision, but instead decide whether to take them out when they are 18-19, and you find them in an alt-right march.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @08:10PM
Slam...slam...slam...
A slamming sound could be heard. Anyone who heard this sound would recognize it immediately; it was the sound of justice! As the man's clenched fist pummeled the woman's face, his tears grew larger. A crunching sound rang out, and the man stopped. "Finally", he thought to himself, wiping away his tears of joy, "Finally, I have shown them all their true place". The man, now liberated, stood up and left the alleyway, which contained a few dozen female corpses with their skulls caved in. Today, freedom defeated tyranny.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday May 03 2018, @09:44PM (18 children)
What if the mother didn't volunteer to get pregnant?
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(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:02PM (17 children)
Is there some kind of right to have sex without getting pregnant? Hint: there isn't.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:15PM (9 children)
You are correct, there is no such right. However that doesn't seem to much matter to rapists, and given that 20%+ of women have been raped at some point in their lives you should probably check your bullshit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:43AM (3 children)
20%... Your laughable statistic suggests you are transgender twit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @12:54AM
Since there's nothing wrong with being transgender, let's focus on the twit part. Better to be a twit than a worthless piece of shit like yourself.
Now, if you don't mind, please go play a nice game of hide and go fuck yourself. Thanks! :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @04:08AM
See thing is most rapes aren't the mugged in the street variety, most are a date that takes advantage and many women just bury it as a shameful event. I see what level of discourse you have, the "I only believe what is right, thus what is right is what I believe."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:37AM
Approx 20% of the world is muslim so thats probably a minimum
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 04 2018, @08:55AM (4 children)
It is not a given - citation please from a credible source.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:41AM (1 child)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/05/cdc-nearly-1-in-5-women-have-been-raped/?noredirect=on [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday May 04 2018, @05:23PM
So the citation that you gave claims nearly 1 in 5 - which is a terrible state of affairs but is not 20%+. So the exaggeration of the original claim was for what reason? Why shouldn't the true figures be sufficient enough to make the argument?
Another response to my question gave the following as a cite: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence [rainn.org] but that only goes as far as 1 in 6 women being raped. Now there is a 6% difference in those reports, so it seems to me that the figure might lie somewhere between the 2 values claimed. Again, this is an unacceptable figure of which any nation should be ashamed but even this figure would have been good enough to make the case. It does not require any fudging to make the argument more credible.
It hardly gives me any faith in the arguments that are presented if the argument is made with distorted figures. It does suggest that someone has another agenda to push when I see inaccurate claims being made.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:53AM (1 child)
[citation] https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence [rainn.org] [citation]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @11:30AM
I feel sick after reading that
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Thursday May 03 2018, @10:16PM (2 children)
Care to explain further? I'm unsure what you're arguing. Are you saying that women get pregnant every time they have sex?
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Friday May 04 2018, @03:30PM (1 child)
no, the body has a way of shutting that stuff down [independent.co.uk]
...the more you know!
(sigh)
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Saturday May 05 2018, @09:53AM
Good lord.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @02:10AM (1 child)
There's also no right to reside in someone else's body against their will, even to keep yourself alive.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @10:55AM
Most guys pull out when theyre done but this 'must keep it in her to keep myself alive' is new
some sort of movie plot perhaps?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday May 04 2018, @03:46AM (1 child)
What if the mother did not volunteer to have sex?
Is there some right to have sex even if she says "No"?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 04 2018, @06:48PM
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2018/04/two-types-of-envy.html [overcomingbias.com]
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html [nytimes.com]