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posted by martyb on Friday May 18 2018, @04:27AM   Printer-friendly
from the no-punches-pulled dept.

At theGrio, Spike Lee blasted Trump for not condemning the Klan and Alt-Right:

Spike Lee’s BlacKkKlansman was well received at the Cannes Film Festival, and the prolific director did not hold back giving his take on how President Donald Trump has contributed to a hateful, divisive culture.

In the movie, about a black man (John David Washington) who infiltrates the Ku Klux Klan, Lee inserted a moving documentary montage at the end of the film about the conflict in Charlottesville, reports Vulture. The movie included a powerful ending messaging about Heather Heyer, the young woman [who] was killed when a white nationalist ran her over with a car during the protests.

“It’s an ugly, ugly, ugly blemish on the United States of America,” Lee said at the press conference for the film.

The story contains a link to a YouTube video of Spike Lee's comments at Cannes, as well as a transcript of that video.

[Note: Emphasis was in the source. -Ed]


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  • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:55AM (29 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:55AM (#681024)

    Watch me condemn my dog for not using the chew toy and biting my shoe. Surely it is important news.

    Who is Spike Lee? How is he relevant to Donald Trump or the Republican Party? Does the world need to know that another rando disapprove of Trump? Does the world need to know that another rando disapprove of white supremacy?

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @06:08AM (20 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @06:08AM (#681026) Journal

    Do you know where's Cannes?

    Yes, sure, your right to remain ignorant and your right to not care what opinion others have about US or about you.
    Doesn't mean that others should or will do the same, or see TFA with the same disinterest as you.
    Better still, under the same rights as you enjoy, you can't stop them to do as they please.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:26AM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:26AM (#681028)

      Here's the thing, they may condemn to their heart's content, like I condemn my dog, no implication that they shouldn't.
      Allow me to rephrase your sentence to better illustrate my point.

      Do you know my dog?

      Yes, sure, your right to remain ignorant and your right to not care what opinion others have about my dog or about my shoe.
      Doesn't mean that others should or will do the same, or see TFA with the same disinterest as you.
      Better still, under the same rights as you enjoy, you can't stop them to do as they please.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:32AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:32AM (#681033)

        Racist shoe, racist dog. That's what we say back home. Just saying, mister racist shoe wearer.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @06:35AM (10 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @06:35AM (#681035) Journal

        Here's the thing, they may condemn to their heart's content, ..., no implication that they shouldn't.

        Glad to see this is out of any dispute.

        like I condemn my dog,

        Do you know where Cannes is? Can you discern a difference between Cannes and your dog/shoe?
        Those are just questions from my own curiosity now, no value judgement will be done to any answer you may or may not to provide.

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:45AM (9 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:45AM (#681038)

          I can tell you that it is a film festival in France, as important to world affairs as my dog and shoe is.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:56AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:56AM (#681042)

            Fucking ignorant Americans! Dumb as a bag of hammers! Дурна́я голова́ нога́м поко́я не даёт.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @07:15AM (7 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @07:15AM (#681052) Journal

            In this case, I must conclude your OP should be interpreted as a statement of "I don't give a damn to TFA" opinion rather than the genuine question of "Why should I give a damn about?"

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @07:20AM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @07:20AM (#681053)

              Think of it this way, would Trump suddenly turn around a new leaf after being berated by a movie director at some film festival?

              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @07:37AM (5 children)

                by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @07:37AM (#681060) Journal

                would Trump suddenly turn around a new leaf after being berated by a movie director at some film festival?

                On that alone? No.
                On that added to plenty of others getting irritated? Maybe not a sudden turn around, but threading the waters more lightly would be advisable - on the long term, there's only that much amount of goodwill in this world.
                And no, America itself is not powerful enough to make the things happen in this world without the collaboration of other nations. Much less able is a POTUS with who about half of his own population doesn't agree.

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                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
                • (Score: 2) by Bot on Friday May 18 2018, @08:39AM (4 children)

                  by Bot (3902) on Friday May 18 2018, @08:39AM (#681082) Journal

                  > On that added to plenty of others getting irritated?

                  But, does that really matters? If the electorate perceives things are going better, then showbiz people will be ignored as representatives of the old order.
                  If I were Trump I would be far more interested in not looking like I am serving the old order myself, because there's where he can lose support very fast.

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                  Account abandoned.
                  • (Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @08:53AM (3 children)

                    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @08:53AM (#681085) Journal

                    But, does that really matters?

                    Well, you see, when other getting irritated includes Merkel, Macron, Theresa May, Putin and Xi [aljazeera.com] and Shinzo Abe [reuters.com] and when their population happens to agree with them, I'm afraid Trump may want to start paying a bit more attention. 'Cause if the irritations turns to annoyance, Trump may start to have some troubles keeping the "bread" side afloat, even if the "circuses" will be aplenty.

                    No, in this world there's no nation that can be self-sufficient and still maintain an advanced enough level of civilization - the globalists took care of that for the latest 30-40 years or so.

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                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @01:26PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @01:26PM (#681148)

                      No, in this world there's no nation that can be self-sufficient and still maintain an advanced enough level of civilization - the globalists took care of that for the latest 30-40 years or so.

                      Then you should be quite in favor of Trump's "circuses" as he has definitely been working hard to reverse the "globalism: regardless of national costs" trend of the last 30 - 40 years. There are quite a few supporters that think we've been way to eager to give away the store to get back too little in return.

                      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @01:51PM

                        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @01:51PM (#681153) Journal

                        Then you should be quite in favor of Trump's "circuses"

                        Why should I? I'm not usian.
                        Even if I'd be, why should I go ahead with a strategy that will cause me financial pain in 7-8 years time [abc.net.au]?

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                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
                    • (Score: 2) by dak664 on Friday May 18 2018, @02:23PM

                      by dak664 (2433) on Friday May 18 2018, @02:23PM (#681166)

                      Advanced enough for what, exactly?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 18 2018, @10:31AM (6 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday May 18 2018, @10:31AM (#681097) Journal

      Uh-huh. Lemme stop you there for a moment.

      I know it's fun and popular to paint racism as an American problem exclusively, because everything in the world is Donald Trump's fault. But let me ask, in the country where Cannes is can muslim girls wear head scarves to school? No, they can't. It's illegal. Here in Brooklyn several little girls with head scarves attend my daughter's school.

      How much fun is it to be a muslim in Hungary under Orban right now?

      How much fun has it ever been to be an Aborigine in Australia? I've been in trendy bars in the Rocks in Sydney where the patrons openly disparaged "bloody blacks" who came in.

      How much fun is to be Maori in New Zealand (despite the Treaty of Waitangi)?

      Donald Trump is loud and mean, but let's not for a moment kid ourselves that he and America are the only ones with problems of prejudice.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday May 18 2018, @11:19AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 18 2018, @11:19AM (#681110) Journal

        I know it's fun and popular to paint racism as an American problem exclusively,

        Mmmm... what? When did the thread above become something about racism?
        Even more, when it was about Americans?

        The way I read it, it's an exchange in which one was saying 'why should I care about TFA?' when he actually meant 'I don't give a damn' and me suggesting there are reasons one may care about; this until it became clear the question was a pure rhetoric one.

        Donald Trump is loud and mean, but let's not for a moment kid ourselves that he and America are the only ones with problems of prejudice.

        Ah, after mixing racism with religion, the things finally settled on 'it's about prejudice and you disparage Trump and America on prejudice grounds'.
        Except I never done it in this thread. I only pointed that others are irritated by Trump and that's a reason enough to my mind to 'give a damn' about such details.

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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @01:02PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @01:02PM (#681134)

        But let me ask, in the country where Cannes is can muslim girls wear head scarves to school? No, they can't. It's illegal.

        Christian girls can't wear crucifixes either. No religious items can be openly worn in a school.
        The only racism is from the people who assume everything that happens is because of race.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by VLM on Friday May 18 2018, @02:24PM (2 children)

        by VLM (445) on Friday May 18 2018, @02:24PM (#681168)

        They've got homelands where its pretty nice for them plus or minus Israeli attacks. How much fun is it to be white in Europe or USA right now?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:48PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:48PM (#681290)

          Still better than being various shades of brown.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 18 2018, @07:35PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday May 18 2018, @07:35PM (#681342) Journal

          Hey. White girl here? Much more fun than it would be to be black. Granted, it's not helping me financially, but all else being equal I wouldn't change my melanin quotient if given the option.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:00PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:00PM (#681300)

        > Here in Brooklyn several little girls with head scarves attend my daughter's school.

        I thought the head scarf was a thing girls had to wear once they were sexually mature.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Friday May 18 2018, @02:30PM (1 child)

    by VLM (445) on Friday May 18 2018, @02:30PM (#681172)

    Who is Spike Lee?

    Washed up agitprop film maker who had 15 minutes of fame a couple decades ago. Was kinda normie-edgy in the late 80s.

    How is he relevant to Donald Trump or the Republican Party?

    Next up, my plumber waxes eloquent on neurosurgery. Or would you rather hear my pediatrician's hot take on cubist art? News you can use, like my car mechanic's opinion of Vivaldi?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @08:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @08:04PM (#681351)

      Next up, my plumber waxes eloquent on neurosurgery.

      And then. Trump on diplomacy and trade relations, and grabbing women by the scumbag lawyer.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:16PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:16PM (#681274)

    Who is Spike Lee? How is he relevant to Donald Trump or the Republican Party?

    I find it rather telling that your Universe apparently is centered around Trump and the Republican party. I also find it rather stunning that you are pig ignorant of who Spike Lee is or, indeed, any thing about the Cannes Film Festival. You need to get out more. A lot more.

    Also, who the hell modded this up as Insightful?!? Or was this upmod intended to be ironic?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @05:52PM (#681292)

      There are quite a few hard core alt-right bigots around here. Since Trump won they stopped working overtime to conceal their true feelings and they openly mod up racist garbage cause they think it is "telling it like it is". Learn that lesson now and come to terms with that subset of the community here, don't be surprised in a few months when the realization sinks in on its own.

      VLM and Jmorris are the two main douche-accounts, with a variety of others that bounce around on the spectrum. Khallow is either gone or lurking around shitposting as AC, but I think he was more of a corporate apologist type.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:56PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @06:56PM (#681321)

      Sorry, I don't watch TV or movies. Your world that is apparently centered around celebrities is not the one I live in. Fuck off.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @07:19PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @07:19PM (#681331)

        Sorry, I don't watch TV or movies.

        Actually, I haven't owned a TV for the last several years and there are very few movies I have gone to for at least that long.

        Your world that is apparently centered around celebrities is not the one I live in.

        Oh, FFS! My world is not in any way centered around celebrities. Even so, I at least am enough aware of the wider world beyond the tip of my nose that I know who Spike Lee is and what Cannes is about. Again, you need to get out more. Much more.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @09:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @09:34PM (#681409)

          He can't get out until he swallows his red pill :P

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @11:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 18 2018, @11:12PM (#681428)

    Spike Lee is a rapper, but you may also know him as a child actor from when he played Henry Winkler's diminutive sidekick Buckwheat in Happy Days.