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posted by janrinok on Tuesday May 29 2018, @07:40PM   Printer-friendly
from the generational-attitude-shift dept.

Al Jazeera reports

Polls have closed in an Irish referendum on abortion that could represent a change in the path of a country that was once one of Europe's more socially conservative.

Voters turned out in large numbers on [May 25] to have their say on whether to repeal the country's Eighth Amendment, which outlaws abortion by giving equal rights to the unborn.

An exit poll, conducted for the Irish Times by Ipsos/MRBI, suggested that the country voted by a landslide margin to change the constitution so that abortion can be legalised.

The vote to repeal the constitutional ban was predicted to win by 68 percent to 32 percent, according to the poll of 4,000 voters, the Irish Times said.

[...] If the proposal to repeal the Eighth Amendment is defeated on [May 25], the country will not have a second referendum and it could be another 35 years before voters have their say on the matter again, [Prime Minister Leo] Varadkar said.

[...] 78 percent of the Irish population is Catholic

[...] Thousands of people living abroad returned home to vote. Ireland is one of the few countries in the European Union that does not allow those abroad to vote via post or in embassies.

Those away for less than 18 months remain eligible to vote at their former local polling station. Those living on the Atlantic islands cast their ballot a day early to help prevent delays in transportation and counting the ballot papers.

When the constitutional amendment to instate the ban was voted on in 1983, 66.9 percent voted "yes," and 33.1 percent voted "no".

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @11:28PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 29 2018, @11:28PM (#685993)

    Man wants abortion, and woman wants child: Child born; woman alone takes on responsibility to fullest extent.

    This one is dangerous, it creates a loophole for a man to claim he wants an abortion just so he gets the financial benefits. It would need to be coupled with appropriate disincentives, e.g. he has no legal rights over the child whatsoever, or cannot have any contact with the mother/child, etc. Chances are such a mother would also be relying more on social benefits, so society ends up paying for what the man previously would have been. This combination doesn't have a simple solution, nor do I expect there to be a one-size-fits-all either due to varying social and financial circumstances of the parents involved.

    I agree with the other 3 combinations though. But isn't that pretty much what we have anyway?

    Perhaps the concept of equality of choice is at fault. After all, the man doesn't physically experience the pregnancy or the childbirth. Goes back to the time-old advice to men to not stick their tools into things without thinking through the consequences.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @03:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @03:23AM (#686071)

    Get rid of the welfare programs.

    Allocating resources should be no business of the State; that's the business of The People, through voluntary association between individuals.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:33AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 30 2018, @07:33AM (#686156)

    it creates a loophole for a man to claim he wants an abortion just so he gets the financial benefits

    There are no financial benefits. You appear to be so stuck in the old "the man works and pays for the woman and children (aka. his property), that you confuse not being forced to pay for someone else as a benefit.