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posted by chromas on Wednesday June 13, @04:31PM   Printer-friendly
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Maine Is Trying Out A New Way To Run Elections. But Will It Survive The Night?

The man who lives in the Blaine House in Augusta, Maine, was, for many, a sneak preview of the 45th president of the United States. Like Donald Trump, Republican Gov. Paul LePage has transformed the face of government with his politically incorrect brand of conservatism — and he did it despite winning less than a majority of votes. LePage won a seven-way Republican primary for governor in 2010 with 37 percent of the vote, and he beat a Democrat and three independents in the general with just 38 percent.

Eight years later, it's far from clear that LePage would have a path to victory if he were running now in the Republican primary for governor. That's because, partly in response to LePage's plurality wins, Maine on Tuesday will become the first state to use ranked-choice voting to decide a statewide election. So not only are there races in Maine we'll be watching, but the process matters too. And if Maine voters don't pass an initiative reauthorizing the voting method at the same time, this real-life political-science experiment will be cut short.

The question of keeping ranked-choice in place for future primaries and Congressional races in the general election led 54-46 percent with 57% of precincts reporting at 12:05 AM EDT.

Maine's Governor Paul LePage has threatened to not certify the results, but that doesn't matter according to Maine's Secretary of State:

Gov. LePage on Tuesday says he "probably" won't certify results from the voter-approved ranked-choice voting system.

Maine law requires the secretary of state to tabulate results and get them to the governor within 20 days of an election. The governor "shall" certify them within a reasonable time period, but Secretary of State Matt Dunlap, a Democrat, said this only applies to state general elections and not primaries. "He can bluster all he wants, but he can't change the results," Dunlap said.

Also at WGME, Vox, NYT (live results), and Portland Press Herald.

Previously: Maine Supreme Court Approves Ranked-Choice Voting for 2018 Elections


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Wednesday June 13, @06:30PM (8 children)

    by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 13, @06:30PM (#692452) Journal

    Trump campaign to win by the rules in place.
    Given different rules, he probably would have won by those rules, by tailoring his campaign accordingly.

    If the election were held today, just about ANY rules would have Trump re-elected.

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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @06:33PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @06:33PM (#692456)

    That must be some tasty koolaid you're sipping.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @07:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @07:59PM (#692504)

      I dunno, cheeto koolaid sounds pretty gross.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by bob_super on Wednesday June 13, @06:48PM (1 child)

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday June 13, @06:48PM (#692468)

    > If the election were held today, just about ANY rules would have Trump re-elected.

    No quite, I can think of a few exceptions right away
    1) only I can vote
    2) the rest of the world votes
    3) Ok, not the whole rest of the world, just countries where the US has bases ... our allies.
    4) Votes are multiplied by each state's ratio of Federal taxes paid vs Fed money granted
    5) Someone, anyone, in the Democratic party rolls a Charisma score above 11, and is not term limited.

    Ok, that last one is by far the least plausible, but you get the point.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @07:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13, @07:12PM (#692486)

      2) the rest of the world votes

      I'm not sure about that. I suspect that 1.4 billion people [wikipedia.org] and 146 million people [wikipedia.org] love him, seeing how he's doing so much to improve their world standing. He'd have a fairly strong chance at a worldwide election.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Thexalon on Wednesday June 13, @08:12PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday June 13, @08:12PM (#692509) Homepage

    So your position amounts to: Trump über alles. Got it. That's clearly the result of careful consideration of the available data, and there's no president that's ever managed things better than Trump. /sarcasm

    Here are some rules: We're going to go back in time, bring back a clone any president since the invention of the public opinion poll in the 1940's, and allow them to run for another term. The winner is determined by Trump's approval rating [fivethirtyeight.com] now versus their approval rating at the time of their re-election campaign. By those rules, Trump loses to everybody but Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush. If you go by Trump's approval rating versus the other guys' approval rating this far into their presidency, then Trump loses to every single one of them, with the closest calls being against Harry Truman or Gerald Ford.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 14, @02:44AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 14, @02:44AM (#692664)

    Just wanted to say that as much as I hate the R team, frojack isn't wrong here.

    The D team just completely failed. They picked an awful candidate, and then she had an awful campaign. I don't think Clinton even came to my state to speak once! She and the D team just assumed my state was in the bag. Arrogant fucks. My state wound up going to Trump.

    And can we just elide the whole electoral college whargarbl? If you want to abolish the electoral college, you'll probably need to call an Article V convention. Lots of people want one of those. So let's have one instead of bitching and moaning because She Lost.

    Direct all anger over She Lost squarely at the DNC. (This method works for me personally.) If the DNC hadn't fucked over Sanders, he would have won in the general election in a landslide. Powerful interests wanted Clinton, and so we got Trump thanks to their out-of-touch hubris.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Thursday June 14, @02:52AM (1 child)

      by Arik (4543) on Thursday June 14, @02:52AM (#692668)
      "The D team just completely failed. They picked an awful candidate, and then she had an awful campaign. I don't think Clinton even came to my state to speak once!"

      Why would she? The fix was in. The DNC made sure she was the D nominee, and her friends in the media pushed Trump as the R nominee, at her request. Everyone was certain that it was impossible for even her to win against Trump.
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      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday June 14, @03:11AM

        by Arik (4543) on Thursday June 14, @03:11AM (#692674)
        "impossible for even her to win against Trump. "

        impossible to LOSE against Trump, obviously.
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