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posted by janrinok on Wednesday June 20 2018, @06:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-will-change dept.

US leaving UN Human Rights Council -- 'a cesspool of political bias'

US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley announced the United States is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council Tuesday, accusing the body of bias against US ally Israel and a failure to hold human rights abusers accountable. The move, which the Trump administration has threatened for months, came down one day after the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights slammed the separation of children from their parents at the US-Mexico border as "unconscionable."

Speaking from the State Department, where she was joined by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Haley defended the move to withdraw from the council, saying US calls for reform were not heeded. "Human rights abusers continue to serve on, and be elected to, the council," said Haley, listing US grievances with the body. "The world's most inhumane regimes continue to escape its scrutiny, and the council continues politicizing scapegoating of countries with positive human rights records in an attempt to distract from the abusers in its ranks."

Also at NPR and Bloomberg.


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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Sunday June 24 2018, @06:43PM

    by edIII (791) on Sunday June 24 2018, @06:43PM (#697656)

    Alright. So, Jimmy Dimbulb has a wife and kids. Jimmy can't hold a job, for whatever reason. His kids are hungry. He comes to YOUR HOUSE, and ransacks it for valuables. You arrive home while he is there, and Jimmy attacks you, demanding more money. You defend yourself, and Jimmy ends up dead. Since you were upholding the law by defending your own life - ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR JIMMY'S KID'S FUTURE WELLBEING??????

    Awkward as fuck analogy for what I don't know. I'm guessing it's that whole child-as-a-shield hypothetical that people keep trotting out.

    However, to answer your question directly, YES. You, as part of society, are now responsible for the children. To say otherwise, is to literally put it in God's hands. Good Samaritans will step up, the religious in society will absolve you, or they just meek out a living as street urchins stealing from your pockets.

    The children are future citizens (you did not say Jimmy was an illegal), and it makes good sense to invest in their future. That's biologically speaking quite imperative in the early years of life, otherwise the children end up mentally deficient. You would want to put them in an orphanage, or some facility like it.

    If you think about it, you'll see the answer is yes too. You're not a monster.

    As for the topic at hand, it's a cruelty to separate the children. They've stopped doing that are now incarcerating the children with the parents. Which is much, much, much, better. What you do is simple. Contact their government and verify, to the extent you can, the relationship with the child. If they're a criminal using the child as a shield, then we incarcerate their ass for 10 years because they trafficked a child across borders. We return the child to the government they came from, by plane or whatever. Expedite it.

    If it really is a parent and child that are here for asylum, then process them like it. So what if they crossed illegally. It's the same outcome, that makes sense in all situations. Keep the family together, evaluate the asylum, and either grant them citizenship or send them back. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm not particularly inclined to punish them because they didn't make it to an official processing center with staff. BP picks them up and gives them a ride. Big deal. Not going to hold it against a woman and child. I don't know why the asylum decision can take a few years (sounds ridiculous to me), but they have wildly successful programs with private prisons keeping track of these families. It's like parole and they check in regularly. That is much better than the alternative, and they're at least paying sales taxes and possibly contributing to the economy positively. There are examples of such families making small businesses that thrive while they await a decision. It's not all criminals and people that have no hope of integrating.

    My biggest issue is what we are doing to the children. It doesn't matter how, or why, the child got to us. All that matters is that they did, and as a people, I think we would want to be kind and nurturing to all children. Especially our own right? If it really is the mother, than it is a family.

    I'm not advocating open borders either, just that we process the children with the family. Even if that means internment camps, or being housed on a military base. The latter being a really good idea. The children can play out in the sun safely, they're obviously well protected and provided for. Sounds like good hospitality to me while we decide if they can stay, or we send them back.

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