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posted by martyb on Tuesday August 07 2018, @05:08PM   Printer-friendly
from the "A-Tale-of-Flodden-Field" dept.

5News reports:

President Donald Trump appears to have changed his story about a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that is pivotal to the special counsel's investigation, tweeting that his son met with a Kremlin-connected lawyer to collect information about his political opponent.

[...] That is a far different explanation than Trump gave 13 months ago, when a statement dictated by the president but released under the name of Donald Trump Jr., read: "We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago."

also at Vox, MSN and Mic


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @10:17PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 07 2018, @10:17PM (#718466)

    Both statements could be correct. His son could have gone to the meeting in order to get info on political opponents. However, instead of that, they could have discussed the adoption issue because the other party was deceitful about having info on political opponents, and tried to push the adoption issue after having gotten his son (and others) to the meeting.

    But that's too subtle an interpretation for those who are only interested in slinging mud at people.

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  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:06PM (2 children)

    by arslan (3462) on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:06PM (#718498)

    That's what I'm seeing on the sidelines. Here's my read, not the exact words, but more how I'm interpreting it:

    Don/Don Jr: We didn't meet the Russians on anything regarding the campaign

    [Later] Don/Don Jr: We met the Russians regarding child adoption stuff.

    Anti-Trumpers & MSM: OMG! Mutually exclusive statements! Lies!! Treason!!

    Me: There could be something there, there could also not be. Someone should apply some elbow grease to find out. Sure if the question is solely about "meeting the Russians" regardless of context/topic, they did lie - but I've also learnt long time ago context is very important, having myself been taken out of context many many times by political backstabbers in the office...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:22AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @12:22AM (#718532)

      It was not about child adoption. It was about Putin adopting Trump.

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @06:47PM (#718915)

        That is about adopting a child.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:55PM (5 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday August 07 2018, @11:55PM (#718520) Journal

    His son could have gone to the meeting in order to get info on political opponents.

    Which is a crime. Again, your best case scenario is election fraud by the son of the President.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:29AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @03:29AM (#718630)

      The best you have is that if the info had a monetary value and was given free, it could be considered a donation of that value. Well, no info was given, and there has been nothing to suggest that the info would have been free if it existed.

      You know who was getting opponent research from foreigners? Yeah... HER. Did she pay full price?

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @08:12AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @08:12AM (#718701)

        It didn't happen, and if it did it wasn't illegal!

        Fucking hell, can you not SEE the people you are aligning yourself with? Your entire argument boils down to "well YOUR candidate was terrible too!!!" when a lot of liberals around here did NOT vote for Hillary and we think she is a terrible person for torpedoing Bernie.

        Stop with the whataboutism and admit that you got the GOP version of Hillary, you got worked over by a Donald. An angry duck who can only preen his own feathers and has already sold out all his supporters whether they realize it or not. You're backing a turd, much like any Hillary supporters would be doing if she had won.

        Come to terms with it, then meet us regular folk who didn't want either of the two options.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @04:31PM (#718839)

          Guys like you are just as responsible for trump as that lickspittle.
          The fact that you think obama 2.0, aka hillary was the equivalent of trump and refused to vote for her had the same mathematical effect as the people voting for trump.
          hillary was flawed, but nothing even remotely like trump's flaws, not even close.
          and fools like you making that false equivalence are just unwitting tools of trump and his backers.

          You don't have to apologize for fucking up, you don't even have to retract that bullshit you regurgitated about clinton because nothing you can do will undo your roll in electing trump.
          But JFC now that you see where it got us, have some self-awareness, do some introspection and stop repeating that same idiocy going forward

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @10:11PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @10:11PM (#719066)

          We did not get the GOP version of Hillary.

          That would be McCain, Romney, or Jeb. All of them were globalists like Hillary and Obama. Well, I guess we did elect Bush Jr., but we weren't too fond of him, and that was many years ago.

          Opposition to Trump is nearly the same as opposition to America itself. He is doing wonderful things for his country. He has, at least temporarily, saved the USA from decay and destruction.

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @10:38PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 08 2018, @10:38PM (#719080)

            > That would be McCain, Romney, or Jeb.

            True

            > He has, at least temporarily, saved the USA from decay and destruction.

            So false it reeks. trump's put a veener of gold lame over the most rotten, diseased administration in living memory. Just read today's investigative report about how he's put three multi-millionares buddies who pay him hundreds of thousands to hang at tsar-a-lago and have never served in charge of the VA.