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posted by martyb on Sunday March 17 2019, @07:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the at-least-the-House-and-Senate-agreed-on-something dept.

breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/15/donald-trump-vetoes-attempt-to-block-national-emergency

President Donald Trump vetoed a bill designed to block his emergency declaration at the Southern Border on Friday, in a ceremony at the White House.

“Today, I am vetoing this resolution,” Trump said. “Congress has the freedom to pass this resolution and I have the duty to veto it. And I’m very proud to veto it.”

Also at CBS News, CNBC, and USA Today.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Arik on Sunday March 17 2019, @08:23AM (3 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Sunday March 17 2019, @08:23AM (#815754) Journal
    Because the lawmakers are sending mixed signals, encouraging immigration without providing those who respond with a reasonable process. Also because in some cases, the reason they don't want to live in their home country is because we broke it. "You break it you bought it" remember?

    This is the really crappy thing about our immigration policy. It's not that it's overly restrictive, or overly lax. Some see it as one or the other, certainly, but that's what you expect with any political compromise. But beyond that, it's just not sensible. "Byzantine" and not in a good way. Because, as stated previously, it's been left mostly to executive order and when that fails to cover it it becomes one of bureaucratic precedent and interpretation and inertia.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday March 17 2019, @09:51AM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 17 2019, @09:51AM (#815768) Homepage Journal

    Bingo. For various reasons, many or even most of our lawmakers actually WANT poor, hungry, miserable people banging at the doors, trying to get in. Many of them exploit those poor hunger people, directly, by employing them as housekeepers, groundskeepers, and other menial labor types. A lot more employ them less directly, in factories, warehouses, and other businesses that they have ownership and/or stock in. The left side of the aisle exploits them for their votes. But, it's probably safe to say that every politico in Washington exploits the hungry bastards in some form or another.

    You can't be angry with those people at the border. Some idiot politician gets on the news today, and promises them that they have some kind of a "right" to work in America. Another gets on television tomorrow and begs them to come here, and vote the other party down. Yet another politicians mouths off about a universal income, and those people who have never held a hundred dollar bill in their lives want some of that. Another runs their head about a fifteen dollar minimum wage, naturally people who work hard for a month to make twenty dollars wants in on it.

    All the politicos send signals, in one form or another.

    I'll go out on a limb here, and say that almost every country south of us would be better off if Americans just STFU, and got on with life. Stop exploiting them, stop interfering in THEIR politics, and a bunch of them would go about the business of making their own countries nicer.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 24 2019, @11:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 24 2019, @11:34PM (#819227)

      It has mostly been Republicans (since all the small/medium business owners I've met out here are conservative) but for all their ranting against immigration, they seem to have the most immigrant labor at below market pay, including indentured servitude scams like charging them for lunch in order to cut down their bill for the day.

      I've seen mexicans, russians, and not-illegal tweakers all treated like this.

      For all the talk about not wanting immigration, they seem to like it just fine if they can get cheap slave-like labor to cut their own costs.

      Honestly I might have most respect for them if they just pushed for flat tax rates without exemptions to show they were serious, because the ones I have known are also likely to double-book their income for tax purposes and try and avoid paying anything to the state they don't need to, usually not by legal means.

      Honestly if half of the businesses I've gotten backend views of were to be running everything aboveboard, I am curious how financially well off they would really be, and what effects it might have on what laws they were willing to push to other's detriment.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @02:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 17 2019, @02:54PM (#815860)

    It is Byzantine, but there's no reason to change it. I've seen people put up with the uncertainty, capricious process and financial hardship the US immigration process throws at them to get US citizenship.

    Were I trying to get first world citizenship and educated like them, I would try for Canadian citizenship instead. From what I hear the process is well-defined, and educated people are wanted. Plus you probably have the best access to the US out of any other country.