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DNA Databases in the U.S. and China Are Tools of Racial Oppression
Two major world powers, the United States and China, have both collected an enormous number of DNA samples from their citizens, the premise being that these samples will help solve crimes that might have otherwise gone unsolved. While DNA evidence can often be crucial when it comes to determining who committed a crime, researchers argue these DNA databases also pose a major threat to human rights.
In the U.S., the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has a DNA database called the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) that currently contains over 14 million DNA profiles. This database has a disproportionately high number of profiles of black men, because black Americans are arrested five times as much as white Americans. You don't even have to be convicted of a crime for law enforcement to take and store your DNA; you simply have to have been arrested as a suspect.
[...] As for China, a report that was published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in mid-June claims that China is operating the "world's largest police-run DNA database" as part of its powerful surveillance state. Chinese authorities have collected DNA samples from possibly as many as 70 million men since 2017, and the total database is believed to contain as many as 140 million profiles. The country hopes to collect DNA from all of its male citizens, as it argues men are most likely to commit crimes.
DNA is reportedly often collected during what are represented as free physicals, and it's also being collected from children at schools. There are reports of Chinese citizens being threatened with punishment by government officials if they refuse to give a DNA sample. Much of the DNA that's been collected has been from Uighur Muslims that have been oppressed by the Chinese government and infamously forced into concentration camps in the Xinjiang province.
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @01:55PM (40 children)
The logic of the Left leads to not going after criminals because they don't want to "oppress" them. Criminals get rights over the victims of their crimes. We have been seeing the consequences over the past month or so. More innocent people including small children die. More BLACK people die. We ALL suffer while the mob is given free reign. THAT is the true injustice.
Note that this has all happened before (60s - 70s especially, and also 80s - early 90s).
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:07PM (3 children)
And if you dare try to defend yourself with a gun from a mob while wearing a pink polo. You are the problem and will be investigated. Not the mob that trespasses and destroys property.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:03PM (2 children)
One thing these ongoing riots and killings have demonstrated, is that apparently, a certain group NEEDS more policing.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @09:14PM
Not even dog whistling anymore? Fucking neo nazi shits, go back to Russia where you can stomp your boots on plenty of necks. Assuming you can catch them you fat slob.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday July 08 2020, @01:03AM
Yeah, the white supremacists are fucking insidious...but they're not gonna GET "more policing" because they've infiltrated the policing apparatus. If anything, you could argue they were there from the start. Hell of a problem.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:11PM (4 children)
Police are looking for two White people who painted over a Black Lives Matter mural
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/us/black-lives-matter-mural-painted-over-trnd/index.html [cnn.com]
No comment.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday July 07 2020, @06:34PM
And? I thought vandalism matters?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @04:33AM (2 children)
They got them [thesun.co.uk]. Charged with painting a street without a permit. (The BLM, being law-abiding Americans, had a permit.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:55AM (1 child)
Score: 0 for you though. Shame reality has such a leftist bias, like you seem to.
Shame nobody cares enough about facts to vote for you. Maybe they blew all their mod points voting up the trolls. :(
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @12:08PM
A less than zero AC! Racist! Now, get back to towing that line.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:15PM (24 children)
The logic of the Right. Black person is victim of crime. Calls police. Police arrive and before any questions, handcuff black caller before questing white criminal to begin their "investigation" of why they were called here.
To transfer files: right-click on file, pick Copy. Unplug mouse, plug mouse into other computer. Right-click, paste.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:39PM (14 children)
Link?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:53PM
That Australian lady who called the pigs in Minneapolis a few years back to report a crime and got gunned down. She was Black, right?
(Score: 3, Touché) by DannyB on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:55PM
I provided as many links as the post to which I replied. But you can find some on YouTube.
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(Score: -1, Troll) by VLM on Tuesday July 07 2020, @03:04PM (3 children)
The problem with leftist politics in practice is it tries to implement macro-scale cultural-level policy based on microscale rare essentially irrelevant anecdotes or outright imaginary stuff or occasionally outright fabrications.
It doesn't really matter if it happened at all or if in a HUGE nation of 330 million people it happened once or even 10K times, we're all gonna be subjected to the result of the imaginary belief that it happens all the time to everyone.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @03:38PM (2 children)
No finer example than the white, BLM Seattle "they" that promoted themselves from gender fluid to fender fluid by partially blocking the interstate with vehicles and then standing behind the vehicles dressed in black at 1AM. There are leftists insisting this was a "white supremacist" attack even after the arrest of the black driver. Anti-psychotics are useless against this level of delusional.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:23PM
>> Anti-psychotics are useless against this level of delusional.
It's a shame they emptied out the state mental hospitals in the 50s and 60s. Society used to have a place to take care of these poor damaged souls. Now they're hire as grade school teachers.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @12:19AM
That's some systemic racism on your part right there by making assumptions based on the color of his skin. Who says that the Black driver wasn't a white supremacist?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:07PM (7 children)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/nyregion/amy-cooper-false-report-charge.html [nytimes.com]
and you're welcome.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:14PM (6 children)
Ah, the one where the guy likes to hang out in the park and bait people into calling the cops on him, then film them, conveniently leaving out the provocation? Which he did this time by threatening to poison her dog?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday July 07 2020, @05:57PM (3 children)
. . . in the basement of a Washington DC pizza shop . . . right?
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(Score: 2, Offtopic) by Captival on Wednesday July 08 2020, @12:48AM (2 children)
Bill Clinton
Anthony Weiner
Burns Strider
Jeff Epstein
Harvey Weinstein
Tony Podesta
Is there any male acquaintance of Hillary's who is NOT a sex creep/rapist/pedo? And you guys still want to pretend the whole thing is made up. That makes you culpable.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:25AM
Yeah. That basement at Comet Ping Pong is completely real.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @09:06AM
Most women in N.America have been sexually assaulted or harassed.
Many men have assaulted.
Doesn't mean every assaulter realized it, btw.
No, #metoo is kinda about not pretending it was made up. Epstein was going to stand trial. Now more of his cronies - from whatever walk of life or political stripe - will, with M.G. flipping.
If you see it being ignored, you're only listening to fools or strawmen; sorry.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:29AM
There. FTFY.
Damn. You just have to go with bald-faced lies don't you? Well, for a troll like yourself, I suppose that's not surprising.
Toodles!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:41AM
https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2020/05/29/3-things-amy-cooper-did-in-central-park-that-destroyed-her-life/ [forbes.com]
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:54PM (8 children)
Logic of the Right: End all government worker unions. That way if you get police that are doing a bad job they can be fired. If you get teachers that doesn't give a shit, get rid of them. Address multiple problems that affect inner city communities with one policy change.
VS.
Logic of the Left: Defund the police. Some of the first civil rights issues after the Civil War was a lack of policing in black communities. Those black communities took up arms to defend themselves. Gun control started to become popular after that. We are full circle with democrat logic. For the decades democrats have controlled the inner city communities they have made zero progress in actually solving any of the problems.
Tough sell.
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 07 2020, @09:25PM (6 children)
Use race as a distraction so that poor whites have an enemy to focus on so they can justify in their own minds voting for a party that acts against their interest. See: Southern Strategy [wikipedia.org] ,War on drugs. [wikipedia.org]
The US has no left, so the right needs to pretend the other right wing party is a bunch of "Radical Marxists" or whatever.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @10:08PM (5 children)
Sane people keep the far-left and far-right as far from mainstream politics as possible.
Uncanny parallels between Weather Underground / Black Panthers & Antifa / Black Lives Matter. The emerging threat in the late '60s was targeted for a reason [fbi.gov] and it's a stain on history that Huey P. Newton is remembered as anything other than a sociopathic murderer, rapist and junkie.
(Score: 1, Troll) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 07 2020, @11:20PM (4 children)
Antifa does not really exist except as another imaginary enemy for the right to use to scare the hard-of-thinking with.
It seems to be working too.
The Black Panthers were heroes, and ought to be celebrated as such by the second amendment people, because that is one of the rights they fought for for.
It worked until Ronald Reagan decided guns were only for white people.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @12:00AM (3 children)
LOL [discoverthenetworks.org] The development of modern Antifa is described in chapter 2 of "Antifa" - Mark Bray's anti-fascist handbook. [archive.org]
What the fuck does the second amendment have to do with murder? [salon.com] Why are so many leftist "heroes" murderers?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:43AM
Dylann Roof is an American hero!
#MAGA
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday July 08 2020, @03:51AM (1 child)
I love your links.
You try to prove your point by linking to some weirdo far right propaganda and think it helps your case? Hilarious.
David Horowitz? Jesus.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @01:23PM
I'm not sure Mark Bray would appreciate that characterization of his work.
Horowitz is a former editor of radical Marxist rag Ramparts - the magazine of the 60s new left. He began distancing himself from the left after his friend was murdered. [wikipedia.org] I'm not sure Jesus had much to say on the evils of Marxism although there may be parallels to the millions of innocent people murdered after struggle sessions with the sociopathic scumbags rallying behind the "Marxist cause".
If you want to give a link some love, how about this by Ken Kelley? [archive.org] Former White Panther, editor of Ann Arbor Argus, [wikipedia.org] The Berkeley Barb [wikipedia.org] and Sundance magazine? Not so well known as Jesus but a verifiable contemporary and confidant of the murderous, crack-addled sociopath Huey P. Newton.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @10:09PM
Only to the alt-right infestation is that a tough sell, everyone else with a brain capable of empathy has no problem.
(Score: 2) by choose another one on Tuesday July 07 2020, @02:59PM (5 children)
> Note that this has all happened before (60s - 70s especially, and also 80s - early 90s).
Most things, in terms of government and the mob, have in fact happened before. Those who want to cancel history and tear down the reminders of it are in fact doomed to repeat it, they know that, that is why they want to remove knowledge of history so that everyone else cannot know it in future.
Seattle CHOP / CHAZ apparently had racially segregated zones, presumably they think that if they topple enough statues people will not know about Jim Crow Laws or Apartheid and will believe this is a good thing.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 07 2020, @04:08PM (3 children)
It is so weird that democratic ideology does seem to be gradually headed towards 'separate but equal' all over again. I mean do people not understand that this is exactly what something like a 'racially segregated safe space' is? Does really feel like the politically correct nonsense is just an effort to do the same dumb ideas as we tried in the past and pretend it might yield a different result.
I kind of feel like we're gradually seeing another role reversal. The republican party of Lincoln was obviously a far cry from the republican party of the early to mid/late 20th century. Yet today the democratic party aiming for racial categorization if not segregation, muzzling of free speech, equality of result, and actively working to inflame racial and social tensions at any opportunity is obviously already a far cry from the democratic party of the sixties which aimed for free speech and equality of opportunity. Democrats in California are currently trying to get rid of proposition 209. [wikipedia.org] Proposition 209 is the "Prohibition Against Discrimination or Preferential. Treatment by State and Other Public Entities. Initiative Constitutional Amendment." Here is its ballot summary:
They are literally trying to roll back discrimination protections. The democratic party is becoming such a messed up institution.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @02:52AM (2 children)
You should actually look at what that ideology is. It's not what you think.
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/ [democrats.org]
DNC Platform [wikipedia.org]:
There's more. But I know you won't try to educate yourself. Do you get decent wifi under your bridge?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @03:39PM (1 child)
Here [wikipedia.org] is the 'Fascist Manifesto'. It was the stated principles upon which Mussolini's fascist party claimed to stand for.
You might find something interesting. You probably agree with just about everything in it. And that's okay. They're generally good ideals. The point is that what a party claims to stand for and how that party acts are two very different things. I couldn't care less what a politician says, let alone a political group - I care how they act. And in modern times the DNC is becoming one hell of a scary organization. I tend to agree with their ideals on paper, but in practice I absolutely abhor what the DNC has turned into.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:06AM
> but in practice I absolutely abhor what the DNC has turned into.
Reagan Republicans, yeah. I'm with you on that.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @05:21AM
This is nuanced, more so than either side acknowledges. The Confederacy existed for the purpose of supporting and perpetuating slavery, the right of a white person to own black people as property. This is not defensible.
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Jefferson publicly criticized slavery as being terribly wrong, yet he lacked the conviction to even refuse to personally partake in the evil. This is also not defensible.
For a particular monument, we need to consider its purpose. This is where it gets complicated. We don't memorialize Washington or Jefferson because of their support for slavery. We memorialize them in spite of their support for slavery. Jefferson's ownership of slaves is a "hideous blot" on his character. The same can be said of Washington. We should acknowledge that Washington and Jefferson willingly participated in morally evil acts, that they are deeply flawed. But we should recognize their contributions, too, in rebelling against British rule and establishing the governing framework of the United States.
Many monuments of people like Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis do not exist to acknowledge positive contributions from these people in spite of their role in the Confederacy. Neither do they stand to be grim reminders of a past we should never repeat, which is why some concentration camps like Dachau are preserved in Germany. Instead, many of these monuments were erected to portray the Confederacy positively, to encourage people to sympathize their their cause, which was the enslavement of black people by white people. Monuments supporting the Confederacy do not belong on public property. This is wrong.
Nancy Pelosi ordered the removal of four portraits of former Speakers of the House from the Capital because they served in the Confederacy. This is also wrong. Those portraits are not displayed to support the Confederacy. Removing those portraits really is whitewashing history. We should conspicuously acknowledge that these four men served in the Confederacy, which was wrong. But we should not remove their portraits from being displayed along with those of all the Speakers of the House. Doing so is to deny history, which is a mistake.
History is messy. People are messy. We need to be thoughtful in our decisions to remove or not remove monuments.