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USA Today reports Trump has Officially Begun to Withdraw the US From the World Health Organization as Pandemic Spikes:
The Trump administration has officially begun to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization, even as the COVID-19 pandemic continues to grip the globe and infections spike in many states across the U.S.
Congress received formal notification of the decision on Tuesday, more than a month after President Donald Trump announced his intention to end the U.S. relationship with the WHO and blasted the multilateral institution as a tool of China. The White House said the withdrawal would take effect on July 6, 2021.
[...] The formal withdrawal comes as the United States nears 3 million reported coronavirus cases and more than 130,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data. Globally, there have been 11.6 million cases and almost 540,000 deaths.
Additional Coverage:
Trump administration moves to formally withdraw US from WHO
Trump administration begins formal withdrawal from World Health Organization
Trump Begins Process Of U.S. Withdrawal From World Health Organization
Previously:
(2020-05-20) Trump Threatens to Take US Out of WHO Entirely and Stop All US Funding
(2020-04-15) Trump to Halt Funding to WHO
(Score: 5, Interesting) by tizan on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:03PM (63 children)
May agree that WHO is a bloated inefficient bureaucracy but when it comes to health issues in all countries of the world and warn others etc...there is nobody else.
This is the only organization who most governments will allow in to check out and help etc...
Google and Microsoft does not cut it :)
Killing WHO at this point ...is like saying lets dissolve the government when there is a pandemic or war....may be a good idea but definitely not the right time
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:26PM (5 children)
"Killing WHO"??? I don't follow. Is WHO owned by, controlled by, or only supported by the USA?
If WHO is truly an independent organisation, and no one country or entity controls them, then anyone should have the full right to remove support and involvement. How the heck else can problems, like what is being exposed, be fixed?
In light of the pandemic, pruning away the people making things worse is the best thing to do.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by kazzie on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:52PM (1 child)
Does that apply to heads of state too?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:08AM
Yes, but it will be hard to remove Winnie the Pooh as PRC is a dictatorship and their people have no power.
(Score: 4, Informative) by ElizabethGreene on Wednesday July 08 2020, @09:16PM (2 children)
According to howmuch.net [howmuch.net] The funding sources are...
1. U.S.: $116M (24% of total)
2. China: $57M (12% of total)
3. Japan: $41M (8% of total)
4. Germany: $29M (6% of total)
5. U.K.: $22M (4% of total)
6. France: $21M (4% of total)
7. Italy: $16M (3% of total)
8. Brazil: $14M (3% of total)
9. Canada: $13M (2% of total)
10. Russia: $12M (2% of total)
I seem to recall something about committed but unsent funding, but a quick search didn't provide a source for that.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:46AM
Cost of World War 2: $4T and 40% of GDP [norwich.edu].
(Score: 1, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:39PM
How much each country pays is clearly not an indicator of who controls WHO, but is more an indicator of who isn't getting their money's worth (America) and who is getting a killer deal (China).
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:36PM (9 children)
The dumb fucks now admit SARS-CoV2 could be airbourne. [bbc.co.uk] No shit, it's not like anybody with a brain has been saying that since February. Still what's a 5 month delay to an organization that recommended against travel restrictions and couldn't even declare a pandemic for a new pathogen with an R0 around 3 until it was too late? None of this is surprising with a Marxist psychopath like Tedros Adhanom at the helm, 500,000+ dead and the world economy in ruins. No we don't need to kill the WHO but that is not a sentiment I'd extend to their current leadership and it's one or the other.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:57PM (8 children)
Calm down. Nice deep breath.
Now go back and re-read that article. Note that it says that for something to be airborne-transmissible the particles have to be close to 5 microns or less in size. COVID-19 is on the close order of 10 microns in size. It's too big to be a truly airborne virus. If it was you'd have a much different infection picture.
What a *minority* of scientists are saying is that the aerosol characteristics are different from the usual droplet disease. Closed and poorly ventilated spaces may provide more ability for the droplets to infect.
Such distinctions make a big difference in terms of what should be done about it. And if you can't grasp those kinds of differences then take a step back.
Oh, and it isn't "one or the other," either. Only Sith deal in absolutes.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:16PM
You are off by multiple orders of magnitude.
The SARS-CoV-2 (2019-nCoV) virus is about 0.1 microns in diameter [thelancet.com]:
I am not aware of any viral particles as huge as 10 microns across; such a particle would be easily visible under an ordinary optical microscope and would almost certainly be visible to the naked eye on a surface with sufficient contrast. The Variola virus that caused smallpox is one of the largest known viruses at about 300nm across (0.3 microns).
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:21PM
The SARS-Cov2 virus is around 0.125 microns (125nm). Research that much for yourself before lecturing people on "infection patterns" when we do not know the infectious dose.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:32AM (5 children)
Airborne-transmissible is a technical term in disease epidemiology. Lay people use it to mean catchable without contact, whereas the technical meaning is that the pathogen can survive drying out and still be infectious in a particle small enough for brownian motion to keep it in the air. Lots of arguments because of that.
Covid19 is technically not airborne transmissible but the difference is minor when someone sneezes on you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:04PM
Measels is airbourne and survives in air for around 2 hours, we had a study in early March saying SARS-CoV2 remains viable for up to 3 hours. That is airbourne, by any definition.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:48PM (3 children)
Whenever a public health org makes pronouncements, if they are using jargon in a way different from common understanding and fail to explain the jargon (or use different words), that organization is an active threat to the health and welfare of everyone. All these "oh but what they meant was ..." excuses are an intellectual perpetual reacharound circle jerk. If what WHO meant when it tweeted that CV19 isn't airborne (period, end of tweet), that actually what we are saying is that dried particles are not infectious but wet particles are, then you know what -- fuck WHO. That is a total failure of epic proportions because they are supposed to be devoted to public health education, not deception.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:24PM
I wasn't excusing them, I was explaining why there are so many arguments. Nobody ever defines it before they start yelling.
I completely agree they fucked up. And it was a predictable fuck-up too, not only would anybody with half a brain know that the general public is not going to know the technical definition, but the difference is pretty much irrelevant to them. If a droplet can survive 3 hours and still infect you, it doesn't matter to you whether it dried out or not.
(Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday July 10 2020, @05:48AM (1 child)
You see, hemocyanin, by friending you, I can track each and every one of your posts, and help you with your issues. Feel free to friend me, for the same privileges! Otherwise, you will continue to suck at soylenting.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @10:05AM
What if you get deplatformed because you friended a "deplorable"?
(Score: 3, Troll) by VLM on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:45PM (19 children)
You've gotta be kidding bro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_health_organizations [wikipedia.org]
How can you read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization#Controversies [wikipedia.org]
and not change your donations to the international red cross or doctors without borders
I mean, bro, the international red cross doesn't even HAVE a section for its wikipedia article to document corruption, whereas the WHO could write a book. The biggest shitstorm MSF was ever involved in was they ran out of docs and supplies during the hong kong protests and some jerks complained they weren't getting enough free stuff. F those people MSF tried their best.
Just go to smile.amazon.com and change your donation to "doctors without borders" or the red cross. The IRC doesn't have a contact at smile.amazon.com but you can probably find an org doing medical work in any country of your choice with less corruption than the rotten to the core WHO. MSF is good people and they actually use money to cure disease not promote corruption like the WHO.
I am biased because my smile.amazon.com sometimes points to MSF and sometimes to the freebsd foundation (which is not medical, but whatever). But seriously F the WHO, they're a bunch of crooks.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by RS3 on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:26PM (10 children)
I knew a nurse (who recently passed away at 101) who said the Red Cross were a bunch of crooks, and her observations and opinions went back a very long way, including being an Army nurse in WW2. I don't know either way and have no opinion.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:18PM (9 children)
I've heard several people of that generation complain about the Red Cross. When pressed for why they felt that way, every one complained about the fact the Red Cross charged them for a cup of coffee when they could get one at ??? for free.
I'm sure there is some corruption in an organization the size of the Red Cross, it is unfortunately seems to be a byproduct of humans and money, but a large administration is necessary when you have to negotiate the morass of national and international politics to get help to the scene of disasters around the globe. No one seems to manage that as well as the Red Cross does. They also do a lot on local levels for those who suffer personal disasters.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by RS3 on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:01AM (8 children)
Thank you for a thoughtful reply. Not sure who modded me "flamebait" nor why. Completely undeserved. I even put "I have no opinion".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:47AM (5 children)
I'm guessing you committed what someone thought of as wrong think.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:54AM (4 children)
Or for being a fucking douchebat, stop whining and man the fuck up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:17AM (2 children)
No, no, little snowflake! Don't run away! Tell us more. Fucking douchebat, eh? Whining? Man the fuck up? All for what? RS simply told us that he had met a nurse who had a long history with the Red Cross and thought they were a bunch of crooks. Now, you are absolutely within your rights to disagree with him. But a "Flamebait" mod? Triggered much, are you? Maybe after you have stopped hyperventilating you can give us a fuller explanation on the "Flamebait" mod.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @12:57AM
Thank you, but what pisses me off: what is there to disagree with? If someone doesn't believe my story, for whatever reason, grow up and move along. How was it in any way "flamebait"???
The deal is: there are some very triggered angry people on this board who only see posts as absolute truth or absolute troll/flamebait. There's no possibility of someone just posting their opinion. And what I posted was NOT my opinion. I even SAID SO. Someone trolls me here. A kindly wise soylenter told me that I've arrived when I have a personal troll.
If it was up to me, I'd man up and clean up this place and block them for life. But I don't have the power, so there's no manning up to be done. My idea is there should be an appeal system, and a panel of judges (admins) who would simply vote on whether or not a post really is troll or flamebait. Oh, wait a minute, if someone abuses "spam" mod, they lose mod points for a month! So you see, SN really does sometimes have a rules and punishment system in place.
I had suggested something like that several weeks ago and yep, got lots of whining. I'll be very happy to be a judge here. The whining was childish- this place would be cleaned up very fast. I'd bet there are only a very few people doling out the downmod abuse.
As I've said, there are mostly truly awesome people here, and only a few angry triggered jerks bringing the whole place down like a fart in an elevator.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @01:03AM
BTW, I notice many posts negative toward the Red Cross with no downmod, and mine gets the downmod. Well, at least I can eliminate those posters from my downmod hit-list.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @12:59AM
Says the hiding chickenshit! Come out from your little baby hiding place child.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 10 2020, @10:08AM (1 child)
You fucking Sad Puppy, No Opinion, Fellow traveller of the Alt-right! We know who you are, and we mod appropriately. Down, Alt-boy! Down! (What a fuching idiot, to complain about down mods for being a idiot! Oh, didn't know you were an idiot? That wil be $.52. for accreditation fees, and Admin Salaries. I will mod you down, RS3, if it makes you feel any less better. Seems you are some sort of Boomer? Are you white? Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon-light, to the light of burning crosses? Just asking, not judging. But, Might, depending on your answer. Fracking friking fracturing old-school extactions company, in more ways than one.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Friday July 10 2020, @03:42PM
Says the hiding chickenshit.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:30PM (1 child)
Red Cross doesn't have a great rep...
https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=482020436 [npr.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:55AM
Let's get the
RepublicansDemocrats to run it. Better for you?(Score: 1, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:58PM
But seriously F the WHO, they're a bunch of crooks.
Really, man! It's so much more honest to do your dirty business transparently in broad daylight [politico.com], wouldn't you agree?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:32PM (3 children)
I donated some thousands to the Red Cross in January because the bushfires [bbc.com] have left hundreds with their home destroyed.
6 months after, about half of the money have not reached the victims [redcross.org.au].
Does this make them corrupt? Not necessarily. But surely makes them inefficient.
Also, note how the Red Cross Australia had in 2019 a budget exceeding the US contribution to WHO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:18AM (2 children)
Depends, one would have to investigate one particularly relevant aspect of their operations before commenting about efficiency.
What's the interest/return on $94 million held in a bank/invested over a year, and does this money go into the fund?, it would be quite simple for them to still spend/disburse the *exact* $94 million as raised to balance that particular book and keep the interest/returns and put them down as 'operational expenses' (or some such other bullshit excuse), helps keep the directors six figure salaries ticking over nicely without it looking as if they're doing so directly from donations..so, a good test of corruption is, while dicking around with the spending/disbursement of these funds, have the directors etc been quick to pat themselves on the back and award themselves pay rises?
Disclaimer: worked for a charity for a decade, can neither confirm nor deny that such practices were employed by management there...but it bloody well looked like it was going on.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:07AM (1 child)
In these times, it is certainly less that 4¢/$ of administration cost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 12 2020, @02:48PM
You might have a point...it might explain why the last scheme I'd heard about before I left their employ that the lot I worked for involved purchasing property as an investment using 'surplus' funds....their word, not mine, and I always wondered how they managed to pass that one by the regulatory authorities.
It was a small charity, but with all sorts of interesting shenanigans going on...did I mention the accountants who audited the books were related to the CEO and CFO?, I can only assume with larger charites, the nature and scope of shenanigans is much greater..I say assume, but I've seen the stories in the papers and I've known people who worked for some of them...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:30AM
Well! Damned if you aren't the little triggered Trumpie!
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:12PM (5 children)
So is WHO a natural monopoly or not? If it's not practical to have competing WHO-like agencies, how do you mitigate the capture of WHO by *any* large power, not just China? I don't pretend to have an answer. I'm just pointing out that it's part of a general problem. It's regulatory capture on a global scale.
Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:34PM (3 children)
If you watch Event 201, the October 2019 pandemic planning exercise, participants were big on "controlling the narrative". Curious choice of words that, especially considering the course of this pandemic where the WHO have consistently taken positions that are diametrically opposed to scientific reality and common sense. Then there's the censorship, published and widely cited scientists like thunderf00t [youtube.com] and interviews with former head of the WHO Cancer Program Karol Sikora [unherd.com] removed from YouTube for disagreeing with the "narrative" of provable liars at the WHO.
There's a problem with any centralized authority vulnerable to political coercion or subversion. We should demand the right to challenge them, hold them accountable or to remove our funding and support. I'm fine with the latter here.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:04PM (2 children)
Let me guess, you recently re-watched "Men In Black"? Better a international organization doing spin management than a Cosmic Ping-pong Pizza conspiracy theorist formenting panic and violence and pearl-clutching.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:36PM (1 child)
My dear AC, doctors may be able to help with your big brained [oup.com] opinions.
If you answered no to any of the above, seek medical help immediately.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:43PM
Please look into the flashy thing.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday July 09 2020, @05:07PM
Have enough countries funding it and involved in managing it that no single country has the ability to control it. Which is exactly what has happened.
And the reason the US is trying to withdraw from it has everything to do with the fact that the WHO has so far refused to just do the bidding of the US even though the US is certainly one of its major funding sources as well as a source of significant numbers of management and personnel, which from my point of view suggests that the plan worked.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Wednesday July 08 2020, @06:22PM (4 children)
Killing WHO at this point ...is like saying lets dissolve the government when there is a pandemic or war....may be a good idea but definitely not the right time
By that logic, it would be dangerous not to reelect this president for risk of dissolution of all the work he has done
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:52PM (1 child)
All the work he has done? I would glad disassemble all the work this President has done. Just sayin'.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:09AM
You really harshed my high, man. I was so hoping the sarcasm tag wouldn't be necessary on that one
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by etherscythe on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:45PM (1 child)
Cute, but no. The analogy is a bit closer to saying "let's break the 2 party and electoral college systems because they brought us Trump" which frankly does sound like a good idea that really needs to wait. We need to put the fire out before we can dispose of the tinder safely.
However, the mechanisms are in place if we replace Trump. Party turnovers have happened, cabinets have been approved, and administrations have safely changed. It's not like a choice between Trump and complete anarchy. WHO on the other hand is heavily entrenched and, as other commenters have pointed out, there may not be a suitable replacement immediately available.
"Fake News: anything reported outside of my own personally chosen echo chamber"
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday July 09 2020, @12:15AM
"let's break the 2 party and electoral college systems because they brought us Trump" which frankly does sound like a good idea that really needs to wait.
A century's old argument we have heard ad nauseum. There's no time like the present.
However, not to worry, the incumbents are winning their primaries, and we should expect to see the usual 90% of the same faces on C-SPAN next year, trudging, onward...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:09PM (13 children)
If he doesn't do it now, he may not get the chance later. The only thing I find surprising/positive about this is that Cheeto in Chief actually is showing some follow through on his insane agenda. The only motivation I can see for doing this now is that a) he can, and b) he can trade it back at a later date in exchange for something else he wants.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:01AM
Also it makes the news.
It's been said 100 times, but if his noise occupies the front page then all the sweet deals get no coverage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:12AM (4 children)
Except the "reasons" Trump has used to trash the WHO are largely false [bbc.co.uk].
What's more, unless things change pretty drastically, Biden will likely walk back this idiocy [bbc.com] before an exit can be completed.
It's just more posturing by Trump to appeal to the QAnon morons who are among the most rabid of his base.
But that's nothing new, is it?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:17PM (3 children)
Trump not have his facts connected to the reality we live in? At least he's consistent.
If we reelect this shitshow I will be severely disappointed in the American people, again.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:16PM (2 children)
The first time he lost the popular vote and only won due to a broken outdated system. If he wins again now that so many Republicans have renounced him then it is a clear signal that our electoral system has been truly corrupted.
Of course there would be no shortage of shills and idiots trying to spin it as legitimate because they'd rather "win" then live in a free country, "How DARE they tell me to be respectful of others and condemn murderous police forces, how DARE they???"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @08:54PM (1 child)
It's a broken system because you didn't get the result you wanted.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 10 2020, @12:37AM
No, it's a broken system because the clear will of the people was subverted by an ancient dodge created to pander to the segment of the population who thought owning people was fine'n'dandy.
"Butbutbut TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY!!!1111ELEVENTYONE!" I hear you splutter, through a generous helping of saliva. Okay, what about tyranny of the minority then? What about a person's vote counting less if they're from, for example, California than e.g. Iowa?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:10PM (2 children)
Following through with an insane agenda is not a positive thing.
The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday July 09 2020, @04:20PM (1 child)
If it swings voters (like my mother) who believe "oh, he's just kidding", "oh, he doesn't really mean that", "oh, he's doing the best he can with a difficult situation" - then, yes- proving himself (to people like my mother) to be certifiably insane, incompetent, and unfit to manage the affairs of a pet parakeet, much less those of the nation - that's a good thing.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:40PM
Frankly, if the last four years haven't convinced your mom that this President is "certifiably insane, incompetent, and unfit to manage the affairs of a pet parakeet, much less those of the nation" then nothing will.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:08PM (3 children)
There is a clear motivation behind it to anyone who is paying attention. The best explanation for the president's actions are best described with the analogy of pro-wrestling.
In pro-wrestling, absolutely everything that happens in front of audiences or on TV is organized to present a false reality known as "kayfabe". From the point of view of promoters (most notably Vince McMahon), there are two kinds of fans of wrestling, those that believe the kayfabe ("marks"), and those that don't but like to pretend that they do ("smarks"). Allowing the kayfabe illusion to be broken is the worst thing possible, because it confuses the marks and makes the smarks feel like they aren't so smart.
And that's why, when the presidents' false version of reality that he presents constantly starts to slip, he hops onto Twitter or calls into Fox News and spouts a whole lot of nonsense. It's also why he does many of the official actions he does: In this case, he's breaking off US relations with the World Health Organization because in kayfabe they're the ones who are entirely responsible for Covid-19 reaching the US and being as bad as it is. And his rank-and-file defenders either are marks who are too dumb to know that it's all fake, or smarks who know it's all a ruse but want to preserve the kayfabe because they find it profitable or entertaining. And in this administration, preservation of its kayfabe is of greater importance than the lives or well-being of any human being not named "Trump".
It would be comical if it weren't killing people.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:17PM (2 children)
I can see how that played during lockdown, but post-reopening? Isn't that like Randy Savage clotheslining Don King during the post-match show?
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:38PM (1 child)
Post-reopening, the kayfabe story is:
1. It was only a problem because of the problems with WHO.
2. It killed a bunch of the liberals in the big cities who a lot of Republicans wanted dead, but the "real" Americans (i.e. straight white rural conservative Christians) are immune because Jesus.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 10 2020, @02:52AM
I definitely see that thinking here - unfortunately for them: diabetes is a morbidity risk factor, and those straight white whale conservative fast food eating christian diabetics are gonna be meeting Jesus sooner than they otherwise would have.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:29PM (1 child)
Is there any use to a worldwide organization that sucks up all the media attention and provides faulty information? It seems to me that sometimes nothing may not be ideal, but can be a darn sight better than the actively harmful something.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:47PM
"Is there any use to a worldwide organization that sucks up all the media attention and provides faulty information?"
Ya mean like the Trump Administration?
"It seems to me that sometimes nothing may not be ideal, but can be a darn sight better than the actively harmful something."
Indeed. I suggest voting Biden in November.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @05:06PM (1 child)
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(Score: 2, Flamebait) by Opportunist on Wednesday July 08 2020, @07:46PM
You have to admit, considering the competition that is an accomplishment, you can't deny that.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:10PM (8 children)
He is a real free thinking American. He understands what this bullshit is all about and isn't bending to the SJW forces trying to normalize dictating behavior to the sheeple.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @08:32PM (6 children)
I'm surprised they haven't got his syndicate to deplatform him yet.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:32PM (2 children)
I love trolling and catching you dumb fucks. His syndicate should 100% drop him but as with most businesses they will wait until the backlash hurts their bottom line. Doesn't matter what nonsense someone spews unless it gains enough traction to matter.
Scott Adams is a loser of epic proportions, at least he has his money to keep him warm. Kinda knocks a hole in that whole misogynistic "women only want men with money" rant.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:44AM (1 child)
Ooooohh! Ya got me, AC! You are such a fine and subtle troll! Such a pleasure to be caught by a master like yourself! Please, sir, may we have another?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:49PM
Since you're obviously a freedom loving True Murrican I refer you to https://soylentnews.org/politics/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=38378&page=2&cid=1018409#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] and will let the accompanying aneurysm deal with whatever is left of your brain.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Tork on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:42PM
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:45PM (1 child)
Most people realize it is the brain damage, either figuratively or literally. Poor bloke probably had a TIA and doesn't even realize it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:08AM
Is that like bone spurs? Nasty.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:35PM
FTFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday July 08 2020, @10:43PM (8 children)
US to leave WHO next July after Donald Trump criticism of coronavirus response [abc.net.au]
If anyone thinks this is more than another distraction to cover his leadership failures in US, I have the Brooklyn bridge to sell you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @02:35AM (7 children)
Not so much his leadership failures as his outright criminality - the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell seems to be passing by public consciousness, long enough for a suicide by knife in the back to be arranged.
It's #45's pattern - if someone with dirt gets pinched, do something even more batshit insane so as to distract reporters and editors alike. It doesn't hurt that he's got a bottomless well to draw from.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:02AM (6 children)
"Not so much his leadership failures as his outright criminality - the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell seems to be passing by public consciousness, long enough for a suicide by knife in the back to be arranged."
The problem with your theory is that Trump has been threatening to defund WHO for quite some time and, so far as I'm aware, Ghislaine is still quite alive. Could it be that you are overlooking the obvious, that Trump really is an idiot?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:11AM (5 children)
Isn't it more likely it's 3D Chess?
(Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Thursday July 09 2020, @03:31AM (4 children)
Nope, it's more like 2D golf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @06:58AM (3 children)
Actually, to me it looks like Trump couldn't win a game of tic-tac-toe. Sad.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @07:34AM (2 children)
Did you mean "Trump would lose even a game of tic-tac-toe"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:27PM (1 child)
That could be an alternate way of writing an equivalent statement, but there's nothing wrong with the first one. "Couldn't win" better expresses the author's opinion of Trump's mental faculties, while "would lose" said nothing about Trump, only the outcome of the game.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:53PM
Do you think I'm that stupid or do you really are one?
Let me give you a hint. "How about a nice game of chess?" [youtube.com], does it ring a bell?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09 2020, @01:19PM
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/29-06-2020-covidtimeline [who.int]
WHO is the only organization in the world that can actually get into places that no one else has access. If there is some outbreak of Ebola in middle of nowhere, it's the WHO that coordinates. If there is a potential for some weird flu outbreak, WHO is the coordinator. If there is an epidemic in a poor country, WHO has stockpiles to disperse.
But I guess it takes a "president" in America, who tries to kill people's healthcare, to then try to blame his failings on someone else. I'm sure he takes NO responsibility for not listening to WHO (or CDC and everyone else) for months too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMwvmJLnc0 [youtube.com]