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posted by Fnord666 on Monday July 13 2020, @04:23PM   Printer-friendly

Absurdity of the Electoral College:

Here's one nice thing we can now say about the Electoral College: it's slightly less harmful to our democracy than it was just days ago. In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that states have the right to "bind" their electors, requiring them to support whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote in their state. Justice Elena Kagan's opinion was a blow to so-called "faithless electors," but a win for self-government. "Here," she wrote, "the People rule."

Yet while we can all breathe a sigh of relief that rogue electors won't choose (or be coerced) into derailing the 2020 presidential contest, the Court's unanimous ruling is a helpful reminder that our two-step electoral process provides America with no tangible benefits and near-limitless possibilities for disaster. To put it more bluntly, the Electoral College is a terrible idea. And thanks to the Justices' decision, getting rid of it has never been easier.

[...] The Electoral College, in other words, serves no useful purpose, other than to intermittently and randomly override the people's will. It's the appendix of our body politic. Most of the time we don't notice it, and then every so often it flares up and nearly kills us.

[...] Justice Kagan's words – "Here, the People rule" – are stirring. But today, they are still more aspiration than declaration. By declining to make the Electoral College an even great threat to our democracy, the Court did its job. Now it's up to us. If you live in a state that hasn't joined the interstate compact, you can urge your state legislators and your governor to sign on. And no matter where you're from, you can dispel the myths about the Electoral College and who it really helps, myths that still lead some people to support it despite its total lack of redeeming qualities.

More than 215 years after the Electoral College was last reformed with the 12th Amendment, we once again have the opportunity to protect our presidential-election process and reassert the people's will. Regardless of who wins the White House in 2020, it's a chance we should take.

Would you get rid of the Electoral College? Why or why not?

Also at:
Supremes Signal a Brave New World of Popular Presidential Elections
Supreme Court Rules State 'Faithless Elector' Laws Constitutional
U.S. Supreme Court curbs 'faithless electors' in presidential voting
Supreme Court rules states can remove 'faithless electors'


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:32AM (6 children)

    by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @02:32AM (#1020953) Journal

    Governance is either by agreement or coercion. Coercion is violence (*), otherwise it isn't coercion -- it's asking. Right now, we can see that many are not agreeing with the current governing model and cities burn. If these groups take power, there will be others who oppose them and did not agree, and again, cities will burn. Our system is incredibly fragile.

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  • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:23AM (5 children)

    by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:23AM (#1021006)

    That's a shame.

    So there's no other way then?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:41AM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:41AM (#1021020) Journal
      Why does there need to be another way? We have a built-in peaceful way to do things. Why not use it? Why this interest in circumventing it?
      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:48AM (3 children)

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @03:48AM (#1021025)

        That's what I'm wondering.

        I don't see why there has to be violence, but hemocyanin seems to think its inevitable.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:15PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday July 14 2020, @01:15PM (#1021213) Journal
          I consider the Interstate Compact approach to be legal and workable. hemocyanin does not.
          • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday July 14 2020, @08:12PM

            by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday July 14 2020, @08:12PM (#1021459)

            I had to look up the Interstate Compact, and yes, that seems to be the way to do it.

            Better that killing each other too, I would have thought.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @08:57PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2020, @08:57PM (#1022101)

          There has to be violence because the groups wanting to abolish the EC are doing it by forcing the change on others without their consent. That is an attack. They could fix their problems fully internally by splitting themselves up into multiple smaller states so that each person within the new states has the same 'voting power' as the less popular states. That would be a peaceful way to get the same result that their populations are complaining for without causing undo harm on any existing states. However they're not complicating that solution because it'll reduce their collective power as single, larger states. That shows you their true goals. They don't want equality, they want the power to impose their will on others and that only happens when they're one of the largest states rather than redefining themselves to be a bunch of same-sized states. They're the ones who picked the path of violence, forcing others to bend to their will instead of changing their own identity.