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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:56PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:56PM (#1074230)

    There is nothing stopping Trump from nuking North Korea on hist last morning. Then Trump says "see you!!"
    Or sales Florida to Cuba for a box of cigars,

    Yeah, right nothing will go wrong.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:38PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:38PM (#1074265)

    I imagine the prez can't just authorize a strike for literally no reason and he would be stopped. POTUS makes the final decision, but not in a vacuum.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:23PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:23PM (#1074308)

      Have you seen inside the head of a "Stable Genius"?
      You give him too much credit.

      And yes he wanted to buy Greenland... First it is green like golf course. Second if climate warming... IT WILL BE GREEN! And got the land cheap.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Reziac on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:02AM (5 children)

        by Reziac (2489) on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:02AM (#1074516) Homepage

        Greenland has a shitload of natural resources. It would have been on par with the Alaska purchase.

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        And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
        • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:14AM (4 children)

          by captain normal (2205) on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:14AM (#1074544)

          Except that we would have given up Puerto Rico for the deal. Let me see now: warm tropical climate and excellent rum for ice and snow and maybe a few precious gems and maybe some oil. hummm...I'l take PR any time.
          And did I forget some of the best ocean fishing on the planet.

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          Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Immerman on Monday November 09 2020, @04:47AM (2 children)

            by Immerman (3985) on Monday November 09 2020, @04:47AM (#1075007)

            Greenland would have to be crazy to sell, and we'd have to be crazy not to buy if Puerto Rico was a significant part of the price.

            PR is a tiny tropical pebble, likely to be almost uninhabitable before the century, if not underwater, with only modest strategic value as a convenient foothold for maintaining our military influence over South America

            Greenland is 155x as large, rich in mineral resources, poised to become a new temperate zone, strategically located to provide a strong claim to rich Arctic oil fields and shipping lanes, and would provide immense strategic value in any future conflicts with Europe, Russia, or Canada. And if we cross the tipping point to a hothouse Earth, tensions are are likely to be high for several centuries.

            • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Monday November 09 2020, @06:28PM (1 child)

              by captain normal (2205) on Monday November 09 2020, @06:28PM (#1075263)

              1-Greenland is a territory of Denmark, and they are sure to drive a hard bargain.
              2-PR is not a coral reef. It is a volcanic island with mountains over 1000 km high. If it were to flood, you could say goodbye to Florida, most of Georgia, Alabama and petty much all of Mississippi and Louisiana as well as a huge chunk of Texas (say goodbye to Houston and Dallas). The whole Mississippi River Valley would be an inland sea. Not to mention most of the eastern seaboard...Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York, Boston etc. Audios to Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland as well as Los Angles, Most of San Francisco, Portland and Seattle. But it's not going to happen in your lifetime, not your kids liftimes, or grand kids, or their grand kids.
              3-Are you expecting conflicts (war) with Europe and Canada? Maybe there will be conflicts with Russia, but Alaska (of course with out Anchorage and the North Slope) is closer to Russia than Greenland even though proximity does not seem to make much difference in modern warfare.

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              Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
              • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Monday November 09 2020, @11:25PM

                by Immerman (3985) on Monday November 09 2020, @11:25PM (#1075385)

                1) Like I said, they'd have to be crazy to sell, but if they sold so cheap that PR was a big part of the price, we'd have to be crazy not to jump on it.

                I'd say war with Canada is a distinct possibility. As trigger-happy as the US government is, what do you expect will happen when our breadbasket goes to hell, while Canada's tundra becomes warm and fertile?

                Europe will probably be too busy fighting each other, but no telling what will happen if political stability collapses. And while Alaska is closer to Russia's borders, it's close to the empty ass-end, most
                of the interesting stuff is likely to happen in the more densely populated West. Plus, having control of two sides of the ocean would be a major strategic asset for controlling access.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:05AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2020, @07:05AM (#1076480)

            Except that we would have given up Puerto Rico for the deal.

            Nobody will tow Puerto Rico away. It's an island, not a floating barge needing a captain. It'll always be there for you.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:50PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:50PM (#1074370)

    I think you meant "selling Florida to Cuba", because otherwise your sentence doesn't parse.

    Anyway, that still makes no sense. Trump has no such power on his own. Congress might be able to sell Florida to Cuba, after getting the President to sign it, and also having it somehow get past the Supreme Court. I imagine the legal challenges would be huge. Personally, I'd love to sell southern Florida to Cuba: it's going to be largely underwater in a century anyway, and we should build a wall to keep FloridaMan (and his buddy Trump) in southern Florida and out of the rest of America. But I don't think it's going to happen.

    I don't believe the President can unilaterally order a nuclear strike either. I'm pretty sure the DOD would stop that: there's numerous levels of command there, and while the military has been sitting back while Trump has made a fool of himself these last 4 years, that doesn't mean they're going to blindly obey an order that would set off WWIII. Heck, even if it were technically illegal to disobey such an order, they could do so, place Trump under arrest, and wait for Biden to be sworn in, at which time they'd surely be pardoned.