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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday November 09 2020, @09:35PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday November 09 2020, @09:35PM (#1075349)

    Sadly, not starting any new wars makes him a better President than any of the 21st century. For all the moaning about his covid response, he's probably still caused fewer deaths than either Obama or W.

    Assuming we're making presidents all directly responsible for US military casualties during their presidency: There were a total of approximately 49,000 US combat deaths in the last 2 decades. Most of them were during the George W Bush administration due to him starting 2 wars. According to this Congressional Research Service report [], Obama's military deaths was highest in 2009 and declined throughout his presidency. Under Trump, military deaths went up shortly after he entered office and remained higher than they had been in 2016.

    And if you're talking about the civilian casualties in the areas where the US is fighting: According to the UN [], there have not been significant differences in civilian casualties in Afghanistan between Obama and Trump. If you look at Iraq [], the Obama administration killed approximately 60,000 civilians there, which is definitely more than the 19,000 or so killed under Trump, but it's also worth noting that under the Obama administration there was a war between Iraq and ISIS with Iraq getting significant support from the US and it would be pretty easy to argue that without US action ISIS casualties would have been higher, whereas by the time Trump took over ISIS was mostly a non-threat. As for Yemen, there have been substantially *more* US drone strikes there under Trump than under Obama.

    Even if you add all those up, and pretend that Trump didn't kill anybody overseas, Obama's casualties abroad still come in under the 240,000 or so Covid deaths in the US alone. And you could also make an argument that Trump's Covid (non-) response influenced similar decisions from other governments such as Brazil and the UK, which has also killed more people.

    So I'm going to have to rate this "dubious".

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