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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:26PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:26PM (#1074248)

    Did you Libertarian fucks get one electoral vote yet?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:42PM (#1074269)

      Why, no! Did you?

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:53PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:53PM (#1074278)

      The Libertarian Party received a vote in the electoral college, by "faithless electors", in 1972 and 2016.

      But don't let me interrupt your trolling with facts. Prithee, continue.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:18PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:18PM (#1074301)

        Did you Libertarian fucks get one electoral vote in 2020 yet?

        I hope you voted for Jo, libertard.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:01PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:01PM (#1074330)

          Nobody's got any electoral votes yet, there's still a month to go.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by barbara hudson on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:18PM (6 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:18PM (#1074302) Journal
      Actually,in the battleground states the libtards took enough votes away from Trump that Biden won them.

      Gotta laugh - nobody could make up craziness like this.Only in America.

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      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:53PM

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:53PM (#1074374) Journal

        That might not be happenstance. I suspect that many of them dislike Trump more than Biden.

        FWIW, I'm basically Green, but the national Green party lost my affiliation last time when their candidate recommended voting for Trump. I didn't really like Hillary, and I don't really like Biden, but I'd vote for a rabid dog before I've vote for Trump.

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      • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:37PM (3 children)

        by meustrus (4961) on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:37PM (#1074404)

        You say that like Trump is anything close to libertarian. Those guys want to make the government smaller, not capture it.

        Face it, Trump failed to irreparably wreck the government. Biden will pick up the pieces and put it back together good as new. If you wanted to break the government, you should have picked someone methodical. Someone competent.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:41PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:41PM (#1074409)

          Are you serious? Biden fixing anything??

          Maybe you are a bit ahead of that Oregon vote where the "legalized" shrooms, LSD, herion, etc.

          ...

          • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:04AM

            by meustrus (4961) on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:04AM (#1074423)

            I didn't say fix. I fully expect it to look exactly like it did under Obama.

            Personally, I find that better than the alternative. But it is far from fixing what's wrong.

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        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:25PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:25PM (#1074803)

          Face it, Trump failed to irreparably wreck the government. Biden will pick up the pieces and put it back together good as new.

          "They say the world is always ending, but it hardly ever does."

          Trump did his best but it's a pretty high bar :)

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      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:12AM

        by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:12AM (#1074459) Journal

        To be fair, a large portion of libertarians are very much in favor of open borders so it is doubtful they'd migrate to Trump. Both parties forget that Greens are not confused Democrats and Libertarians are not confused Republicans.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:37PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:37PM (#1074405)

      Did you stupid fucks that voted for Trump or Biden do anything to help the USA
      out of its mess? I really dont think so ...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:10AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:10AM (#1074425)

        We want Jo Jo! Jo Jo! Jo Jo!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:45AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:45AM (#1074512)

          無駄だ!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:43AM (#1074511)

      No. That is what enabled me to cast my protest vote for Jo20's bizarre libertarian adventure.

      If I lived in a swing state, I would have had to have gone Biden.

  • (Score: 3, Troll) by VLM on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:26PM (3 children)

    by VLM (445) on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:26PM (#1074249)

    IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted

    Heck, they're still printing out and filling in fake ballots, and thats upstream of counting them once they're "discovered".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:28PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:28PM (#1074254)

      You mean the fake ballots aren't pre-printed for your winner? Inefficient, asshole.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:30PM (#1074255)

      Not surprised to see you of all people pushing desperate conspiracy nonsense. Please don't go all domestic terrorist, no one else should have to suffer because of your stupidity.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:32PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:32PM (#1074259)

    Here's my reasoning for Fox breaking ranks with this projection:
        https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/06/25/rupert-murdochs-wife-supermodel-jerry-hall-donates-to-joe-bidens-campaign/ [forbes.com]

    This was back in June 2020 and only a small amount...but my guess is that Jerry Hall (formerly a super model and wife of Mick Jagger) is slowly bending hard-case Rupert into a somewhat more progressive way of thinking.

    More left leaning thoughts in the link.

       

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:08PM (#1074294)

      please, your weird conspiracies don't work here. FoxNews is one step away from being fascist already. What will you bitch about next? OAN weirdos being too communist?

    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:23AM

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:23AM (#1074431) Journal
      You got the timeline wrong. Associated Press was the first to call the election for Biden. So Fox was just playing follow the leader, same as everyone else. So much for your conspiracy theory.
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    • (Score: 5, Touché) by toddestan on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:49AM

      by toddestan (4982) on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:49AM (#1074558)

      I still don't get why everyone got so worked up on how the networks were calling the election as the vote totals came in. What the networks projected was meaningless. The voting was completed and the winner is determined by counting the votes, not by the networks. Fox could have called the election for Barney the Dinosaur. It wouldn't have mattered.

    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday November 09 2020, @10:58PM (2 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Monday November 09 2020, @10:58PM (#1075376)

      Fox called the election for Biden.

      A lot of Trump supporters, who about a week ago thought that Fox was reliable second only to the president himself, have decided that Fox is part of the lying liberal press, despite the president and his team offering zero actual direct evidence for any of their claims and having every self-interested reason to lie.

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:29AM (1 child)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:29AM (#1075463) Homepage Journal

        I hereby call the election for Kanye. Thankfully, none of those calls mean a damned thing.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:23AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:23AM (#1075602)

          Here I thought you were a libertarian, why is it you're suddenly on board with discrediting the very close election?

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:33PM (2 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:33PM (#1074261) Journal

    YOU'RE FIRED !!

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    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:45PM

      by captain normal (2205) on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:45PM (#1074365)

      I'd love to take that gig, but it will probably go to Stephen Colbert.

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:14PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:14PM (#1074663) Journal

      All of us. We The People.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:41PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:41PM (#1074266)

    Boy Robin(ette) will try to fill his tights.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:09AM (#1075596)

      I think Badman probably stretched those things beyond practical usage.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:54PM (5 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:54PM (#1074281) Journal

    Hasn't FOX News predicted Trump's loss to Biden?

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:59PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:59PM (#1074288)

    When I said I was going to vote 3rd party in 2016, I was told by a trump supporter that a vote for 3rd party is a wasted vote; it was a vote for trump. When I said I was going to vote for 3rd party in 2020 I was told by a Trump supporter, it's a vote for Biden. When I voted 3rd party in 2016 it was votes of my kind that were at fault for the dems losing. When I voted 3rd party in 2020, I'm being told my vote took away votes for Trump and it helped the dems.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by barbara hudson on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:20PM

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:20PM (#1074305) Journal
      And today we thank your for your service.
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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:29PM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:29PM (#1074312)

      That's the obvious consequence of only having two viable candidates. If your third-party candidate was polling at 20% instead of 2%, or was at least able to make it onto the debate stage with the two clowns, then the conversation might be different. As that did not happen, your vote had no chance of being cast for the winner. It was wasted.

      Orange Man proved the way forward for fringe candidates. Hijack the nomination of one of the two major parties. Then the machine has to work for you.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by MrGuy on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:34PM (5 children)

        by MrGuy (1007) on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:34PM (#1074315)

        It’s more a consequence of not having ranked choice voting in most states.

        Ranked choice allows exprsssing true preferences without “throwing your vote away” if you don’t pick your more-likely-to-win second choice. Maine knows.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:52PM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:52PM (#1074324)

          In the meantime, that vote was still wasted.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:04PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:04PM (#1074331)

            In the meantime, any vote for a major party is wasted. As the benefactors of the FPP system, they will never ever seek to change it.
            But yes, votes for third parties are also wasted -- under a voting system whose purpose and effect is to provide the illusion of popular choice while keeping the powerful in power, every vote is wasted.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:36PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:36PM (#1074356)

              I voted for the fist time in 20 years. I abstain because my vote does not matter. I hate both, but this election i hated trump TOTALLY. the lizard man was better. if i had the option to not vote for one of other people i hate, i would. but realistically my state (FL) has too many undead, so my vote does not mater, even here. i voted and failed.

              • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:20PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:20PM (#1074392)

                Your does count! I been voting 45 years for third parties. We need a true third party to prenet the dip shits of blocking each other. A true third party makes the houses say 45/45/10. So any bill will require a compromise so back to centerist goverment vs socialism and fascism.

                I loved Ross Perot with up to 25% draw. Then he went crazy.

                I am republican. But this is first year I voted straight democrat, The Trump-icans Fascists need to be gone.

                Single payer us smart, /i makes company lovk-ins a thing of the past. Saves company admin costs and head-aches. Lastly it is ready paid for. Company been taxing themselves, Cut the profit out insurance and re-task insurance companies to be a public good, so no stock payments. You can swtch plans as your wish. Say if blue cross gives a better return to you. If you want to freelance... go for it. You are still covered. Yes, a socialist tought. everyone taking care of everyone else. But makes job choices about if the job is good for you as in enlightening, not good for you because of your heart condition.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by toddestan on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:01AM

            by toddestan (4982) on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:01AM (#1074564)

            I would consider a wasted vote as a vote for a candidate I don't want to win. Trump and Biden are both terrible candidates. Why would I vote for either one of them?

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:06PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:06PM (#1074385)

        A third party vote is definitely not, "wasted".

        Some states have a requirement of x% votes in the presidential election to qualify for the ballot for statewide elections. And, third parties every once in a while win in these statewide races (but only if they are on the ballot).

        And, by not voting for either the corrupt center-right to right-wing Democrats or the very corrupt batshit crazy far-right/fascist Republicans, you are sending the message that you do not agree with the direction these parties are going. If enough people wouldn't waste their votes on these two corrupt parties, we might see positive change in this country as their duopoly crumbles.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by tangomargarine on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:20PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:20PM (#1074800)

          I sometimes wish that we did our elections the way Australia does theirs (IIRC)--everybody is legally *required* to vote, but there's a "None of the Above" option on the ballot.

          Would be interesting to see what percentage "Fuck All These Jokers" would get.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:46PM (#1074415)

        Its definitely not wasted if voting in California. CA was for sure a Biden win.

        In that case, a voter can help increase the viability of the 3rd parties and not affect
        the outcome.

        The wasted vote argument only applies to close races.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:57PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:57PM (#1074379) Journal

      This is why instant runoff voting is superior to plurality wins voting. And why the major parties will never support it. (Well, part of the reason.)

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:13PM (9 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:13PM (#1074340) Journal

    I wonder if they're already making plans for a presidential library?

    All the books could have pictures instead of words. Because words are difficult.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:23PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:23PM (#1074345)

      Trump Presidential Library: will contain golf scores, mostly. And studies in Sharpie. That's about it. And no longer can put it in New York?

      • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:40PM (#1074359)

        Trump Presidential Library will contain tweets about twats.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by JoeMerchant on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:08PM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:08PM (#1074387)

      I picture it being the top floor of Trump tower in Manahattan, with $5 tours sold in the lobby. No books, only monitors scrolling his twitter stream.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:39PM (#1074408)
      The Daily Show already created the library: http://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah/trump-twitter-library [cc.com]. It contains tweets by Donald Trump.
    • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:54AM

      by istartedi (123) on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:54AM (#1074583) Journal

      The Sports Almanac will be in there too.

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    • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday November 09 2020, @11:00PM (3 children)

      by Thexalon (636) on Monday November 09 2020, @11:00PM (#1075377)

      It would probably just contain every issue of Playboy ever printed.

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      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:38AM (2 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:38AM (#1075467) Homepage Journal

        What is a way to get kids into the library voluntarily, Alex?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:25AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:25AM (#1075603)

          Too soon!

        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:29PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday November 10 2020, @02:29PM (#1075701)

          Why would a kid bother to go to the library to look at pr0n when they can get whatever they want on any computer or phone connected to the Internet?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Subsentient on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:28PM (8 children)

    by Subsentient (1111) on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:28PM (#1074395) Homepage Journal

    Now I can go back to not thinking about who the President is.
    It's gonna be a relatively uneventful four years, and I welcome that peace and quiet with open arms.

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    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:21AM (6 children)

      by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:21AM (#1074467) Journal

      Yep. "If Hillary won we'd be out to Brunch" -- protest sign.

      That's exactly how Obama extended GWB's due process free detention to include due process free execution by a star chamber, allowed the NSA to illegally spy on all Americans, took us from bombing two countries to seven countries, excused the meltdown fraud, looked forward not backward with respect to torture, forced us to subsidize the private insurance industry, played the same games with Plan B that GWB did, removed regulatory impediments around Deep Water Horizon before it exploded, pushed through that pipeline ...

      Yes -- the ONLY scandal of the Obama presidency was that he wore a tan suit. Because you all were out to Brunch. Just like you to promise to be now.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Subsentient on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:18AM (1 child)

        by Subsentient (1111) on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:18AM (#1074501) Homepage Journal

        Well at least the media won't tell me about it, so I won't have to worry about it. Ignorance is bliss. Besides, Biden seems marginally less likely to do those things.
        I always thought of Obama as a mediocre president at best, but mediocre can be good when compared with abhorrent, like Trump.

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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by hemocyanin on Wednesday November 11 2020, @05:19AM

          by hemocyanin (186) on Wednesday November 11 2020, @05:19AM (#1076055) Journal

          Really? Do you remember who Obama's VP was? You know, a guy who had hand in all the fascism of the Obama years (yeah -- death squad star chamber qualifies as really fucking fascist).

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:12AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:12AM (#1074525)

        Interesting, you downplay the media smear against Obama but say the media smear of Trump is why you voted for him this time around?

        You should probably get checked for dementia or some similar kind of medical issue.

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by hemocyanin on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:41AM (1 child)

          by hemocyanin (186) on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:41AM (#1074595) Journal

          What media smear against Obama? The fact that the media wouldn't call out clearly fascistic behavior -- the embrace and extension of every single horrific GWB policy was met with what? A Nobel Peace prize and utter silence on all the horrific policies,. No -- my distrust in the media took seed during the Obama reign precisely because they treated him like Jesus 2.0 and never called him out for anything. And you'll see this with Biden and then Harris -- "Biden's Bold Plan to [fuck you over]" type headlines will be wall to wall. Just like the "Trump is a Nazi" headlines were wall to wall.

          We do not have a functioning press.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @10:11AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @10:11AM (#1074618)

            You fucking racist, hemo! Couldn't stand a Black man in the White house? Please go fuck your own Trump is a Nazi sign, or the actual Nazi posters you have in your den, you asshole cretin nazi sympathizing creep! And, prepare for the antifa re-education corps to induct you soon. About fucking time, you know.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:28PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:28PM (#1074805)

        Yep. "If Hillary won we'd be out to Brunch" -- protest sign.

        That's probably true. If Hillary had won, the republicans would never have politicized a flu to panic people, prevent them from doing their jobs, lock people up at home, and let rioters rampage through the cities for good measure.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:40AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:40AM (#1074481) Journal
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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by srobert on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:33PM

    by srobert (4803) on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:33PM (#1074400)

    Assuming the electoral college vote holds up and Biden gets 270, the good news is that Trump will no longer be President come January 20th. The bad news is that Biden will become President and, as he promised his wealthy donors, "nothing will fundamentally change".

  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:19AM (3 children)

    by inertnet (4071) on Sunday November 08 2020, @12:19AM (#1074428) Journal

    I was wondering about this recently:

    46th President of the US

    49th Vice President

    I wondered if a reelected president had ever switched vice presidents for their second term. I'm not sure, but from those numbers I guess that this has probably happened 3 times in American history. But it could also be that some vice president died during his term, I don't know enough about American history to know if that ever happened.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by toddestan on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:27AM (1 child)

      by toddestan (4982) on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:27AM (#1074572)

      As far as I remember, the count isn't the same because of George Clinton (1805-1812), who served under both Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and James Madison (1809-1817). Clinton didn't complete his second term as Vice President because he passed away. Note that originally the Vice President was the people with the second most electoral votes for President, and wasn't part of Presidential ticket like in modern times.

      Abraham Lincoln's first Vice President was Hannibal Hamlin. For his second term his Vice President was Andrew Johnson, who became President when Lincoln was assassinated.

      Ulysses S. Grant had two Vice Presidents. Schuyler Colfax for his first term, and Henry Wilson for his second term.

      William McKinley also had two Vice Presidents, Garret Hobart for his first term, and Theodore Roosevelt for his brief second term. Theodore Roosevelt became President when McKinley was assassinated.

      Franklin D. Roosevelt had no less than three Vice Presidents. John Garner, Henry Wallace, and Harry Truman. Truman became President when Roosevelt passed away.

      Richard Nixon is the most recent President with more than one Vice President, thanks to the whole Watergate thing. Spiro Agnew was Nixon's original Vice President, who was forced to resign, then Gerald Ford was appointed as Vice President, who subsequently became President when Nixon was forced to resign.

      So there's actually a number of Presidents who had more than one Vice President. The reason why difference is only three (46 vs. 49) is because until the 25th Amendment, a vacancy in the Vice President's office could not be filled until the next election and subsequent inauguration, so there were several times in the US's history where the Vice President office became vacant in the middle of a term and stayed that way for the remainder of the term. So far there's actually only been two Vice Presidents appointed under the provisions of the 25th Amendment, Gerald Ford under Nixon, and then Nelson Rockefeller under Ford once Ford became president.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:35AM (#1074577)

      Actually, IIRC, 8 presidents have had multiple VPs — FDR had three different ones.

      The reason your logic is misguided is that prior to the 25th amendment, the VP office would remain vacant if a VP ascended to the presidency (e.g. after president died in office) and the fact that two VPs served under multiple presidents.

      But hey, why bother looking at a fucking Wikipedia article or something when you can make up stupid flawed logic and lament your ignorance publicly?

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by DannyB on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:05AM (10 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:05AM (#1074453) Journal

    I just realized something.

    We're going to have an actual first lady again!

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    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:14AM

      by looorg (578) on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:14AM (#1074461)

      I thought it was somewhat funny that you'll now also have a vice first gentleman, or whatever the title might be (it might not matter all that much tho since he has no actual power?).

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:23AM (6 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:23AM (#1074470) Journal

      We're going to have an actual first lady again!

      That's low, Danny boy.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:47AM (5 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:47AM (#1074486) Journal

        A first lady who actually wants the role and will use her position to do something good. As most first ladies have done.

        What I said is no worse than calling Joe an actual president.

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:08AM (4 children)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:08AM (#1074493) Journal

          A first lady who actually wants the role and will use her position to do something good.

          Is there something in the Constitution which asks US having a first lady?

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          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:17AM (2 children)

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:17AM (#1074499) Journal

            My post means nothing more than a first lady who fills the role in the traditional way.

            And I will repeat that it will be nice to have this.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:22AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:22AM (#1074502)

              And I will repeat that it will be nice to have this.

              Would have been good if your message weren't casting a blame on one that fails your expectation.

            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:38AM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:38AM (#1074509) Journal
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          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:14PM

            by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:14PM (#1074797)

            https://www.quora.com/Has-the-US-ever-had-a-president-who-was-single [quora.com]

            James Buchanan was a bachelor, apparently. Unfortunately he also has the dubious honor of being ranked perhaps the worst president we ever had (right before the Civil War, which he basically did nothing to stop).

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    • (Score: 1, Touché) by DannyB on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:46AM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @01:46AM (#1074482) Journal

      A first lady who has never been naked in a magazine.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @10:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @10:13AM (#1074619)

      As opposed to a First Slut/Model/Trophy wife/ Immigrant? You need to be more specific, to Be Best.

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by SomeGuy on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:32AM (4 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:32AM (#1074505)

    Biden seems like an OK smart guy. Just one small glitch - someone needs to inform him that there is no such thing as god.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by DannyB on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:42AM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:42AM (#1074510) Journal

      Trump's evangelical base would disagree. Even some Democrats would disagree. He's playing to these particular people. At least he has the sense to play to more than just his own base.

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    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:20PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:20PM (#1074667) Journal

      Who says? Now, *Yahweh,* you have a point--he's either a demon or a myth or both, as he doesn't meet the definition of what it means to be God. But how do you disprove, for example, Deism?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:58PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:58PM (#1074820)

      Stating a simple fact is flamebait? Right, must be trump supporters here.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:21AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 10 2020, @07:21AM (#1075600)

        1st time?

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:53AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:53AM (#1074514)

    It's only a matter of time before Camel-Toe Harris launches the Anti-Male Offensive that's been in the planning stages for decades.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:16AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @03:16AM (#1074530)

      Excellent. Finally we get to kill all men.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:36AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 08 2020, @04:36AM (#1074554)

      It's only a matter of time before Camel-Toe Harris launches the Anti-Male Offensive

      Perfect, fuck them.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:22PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday November 08 2020, @02:22PM (#1074668) Journal

      Anti-male offensive, LOL wut.

      You want men to die less? Stop the stupid behavior, put down the beer and cigarettes, quit behaving like you're invincible and/or disposable, and see a goddamn doctor if you're lucky enough to have healthcare. There is zero need for an anti-male offensive, as you idiots do a fine job of it yourselves.

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  • (Score: 2) by EJ on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:54AM

    by EJ (2452) on Sunday November 08 2020, @09:54AM (#1074615)

    Yes. This guy appears to be a conservative, possibly bordering on nutjob territory with his ideas about COVID-19, but this video made me chuckle a little when it was sent to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZ-KiYoU68 [youtube.com]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Username on Monday November 09 2020, @03:45AM

    by Username (4557) on Monday November 09 2020, @03:45AM (#1074977)

    Here's some predictions I will make based on biden's campaign promises, and past dealings.

    1.) At least one new foreign war that will most likely benefits ukraine or china.
    2.) A rise in islamic terrorism and antisemitism. Large groups of jews leaving for lack of protection.
    3.) Gas prices will rise to $5/6 dollars a gallon or higher. LP will follow a similar curve leading to poor rural people not being able to heat their homes.
    4.) Taxes will nearly double, and unemployment will rise.
    5.) Attempted revocation of the 2nd amendment, and mass gun confiscation.
    6.) Riots will worsen.

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