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posted by martyb on Saturday November 07 2020, @07:10PM   Printer-friendly

Fox News (among many other outlets[*]) is reporting: Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House:

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has defeated President Trump, denying him a second term after a bitter campaign and dramatic, prolonged vote count in battleground states that sparked a flurry of lawsuits.

The Fox News Decision Desk projected Saturday that Biden will win the state of Nevada and the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, giving the former vice president the electoral votes he needs to win the White House.

[...] "I am honored and humbled by the trust the American people have placed in me and in Vice President-elect Harris," Biden said in a statement. "In the face of unprecedented obstacles, a record number of Americans voted. Proving once again, that democracy beats deep in the heart of America."

He added: "With the campaign over, it's time to put the anger and the harsh rhetoric behind us and come together as a nation."

Biden's campaign announced that the president-elect and Harris, his running mate, will speak at an event in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware at 8 p.m. ET.

Joseph Biden would become the 46th President of the US; U.S. Senator Kamala Harris of California, the 49th Vice President.

Also at: NY Post, CBS News, ABC News, CNN, CNBC, and USA Today.

IMPORTANT: There are still votes to be counted, a recount has been requested in one state, and there are numerous court challenges launched by the Trump campaign. Further, nothing is official until the actual vote by the Electoral College.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:59PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @08:59PM (#1074288)

    When I said I was going to vote 3rd party in 2016, I was told by a trump supporter that a vote for 3rd party is a wasted vote; it was a vote for trump. When I said I was going to vote for 3rd party in 2020 I was told by a Trump supporter, it's a vote for Biden. When I voted 3rd party in 2016 it was votes of my kind that were at fault for the dems losing. When I voted 3rd party in 2020, I'm being told my vote took away votes for Trump and it helped the dems.

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by barbara hudson on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:20PM

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:20PM (#1074305) Journal
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:29PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:29PM (#1074312)

    That's the obvious consequence of only having two viable candidates. If your third-party candidate was polling at 20% instead of 2%, or was at least able to make it onto the debate stage with the two clowns, then the conversation might be different. As that did not happen, your vote had no chance of being cast for the winner. It was wasted.

    Orange Man proved the way forward for fringe candidates. Hijack the nomination of one of the two major parties. Then the machine has to work for you.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by MrGuy on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:34PM (5 children)

      by MrGuy (1007) on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:34PM (#1074315)

      It’s more a consequence of not having ranked choice voting in most states.

      Ranked choice allows exprsssing true preferences without “throwing your vote away” if you don’t pick your more-likely-to-win second choice. Maine knows.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:52PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @09:52PM (#1074324)

        In the meantime, that vote was still wasted.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:04PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:04PM (#1074331)

          In the meantime, any vote for a major party is wasted. As the benefactors of the FPP system, they will never ever seek to change it.
          But yes, votes for third parties are also wasted -- under a voting system whose purpose and effect is to provide the illusion of popular choice while keeping the powerful in power, every vote is wasted.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:36PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:36PM (#1074356)

            I voted for the fist time in 20 years. I abstain because my vote does not matter. I hate both, but this election i hated trump TOTALLY. the lizard man was better. if i had the option to not vote for one of other people i hate, i would. but realistically my state (FL) has too many undead, so my vote does not mater, even here. i voted and failed.

            • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:20PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:20PM (#1074392)

              Your does count! I been voting 45 years for third parties. We need a true third party to prenet the dip shits of blocking each other. A true third party makes the houses say 45/45/10. So any bill will require a compromise so back to centerist goverment vs socialism and fascism.

              I loved Ross Perot with up to 25% draw. Then he went crazy.

              I am republican. But this is first year I voted straight democrat, The Trump-icans Fascists need to be gone.

              Single payer us smart, /i makes company lovk-ins a thing of the past. Saves company admin costs and head-aches. Lastly it is ready paid for. Company been taxing themselves, Cut the profit out insurance and re-task insurance companies to be a public good, so no stock payments. You can swtch plans as your wish. Say if blue cross gives a better return to you. If you want to freelance... go for it. You are still covered. Yes, a socialist tought. everyone taking care of everyone else. But makes job choices about if the job is good for you as in enlightening, not good for you because of your heart condition.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by toddestan on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:01AM

          by toddestan (4982) on Sunday November 08 2020, @05:01AM (#1074564)

          I would consider a wasted vote as a vote for a candidate I don't want to win. Trump and Biden are both terrible candidates. Why would I vote for either one of them?

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:06PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:06PM (#1074385)

      A third party vote is definitely not, "wasted".

      Some states have a requirement of x% votes in the presidential election to qualify for the ballot for statewide elections. And, third parties every once in a while win in these statewide races (but only if they are on the ballot).

      And, by not voting for either the corrupt center-right to right-wing Democrats or the very corrupt batshit crazy far-right/fascist Republicans, you are sending the message that you do not agree with the direction these parties are going. If enough people wouldn't waste their votes on these two corrupt parties, we might see positive change in this country as their duopoly crumbles.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by tangomargarine on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:20PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday November 08 2020, @08:20PM (#1074800)

        I sometimes wish that we did our elections the way Australia does theirs (IIRC)--everybody is legally *required* to vote, but there's a "None of the Above" option on the ballot.

        Would be interesting to see what percentage "Fuck All These Jokers" would get.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 07 2020, @11:46PM (#1074415)

      Its definitely not wasted if voting in California. CA was for sure a Biden win.

      In that case, a voter can help increase the viability of the 3rd parties and not affect
      the outcome.

      The wasted vote argument only applies to close races.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:57PM

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 07 2020, @10:57PM (#1074379) Journal

    This is why instant runoff voting is superior to plurality wins voting. And why the major parties will never support it. (Well, part of the reason.)

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