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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday November 19 2020, @03:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the retribution-can-be-petty dept.

The Guardian has a story detailing the firing of Christopher Krebs, who served as the director of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (Cisa)

President Trump made the announcement on Twitter on Tuesday, saying Krebs "has been terminated" and that his recent statement defending the security of the election was "highly inaccurate".

CISA last week released a statement refuting claims of widespread voter fraud. "The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history," the statement read. "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

Krebs, is a former Microsoft executive, and was appointed by President Trump after allegations of Russian interference with the 2016 election.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 19 2020, @03:46PM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 19 2020, @03:46PM (#1079220) Journal

    What about the glitches that were noted where a certain manufacturer's voting machine switched a not-insignificant number of votes from Trump to Biden and this had to be corrected? Not just once.

    That depends. Did these glitches exist? Did this certain manufacturer exist?

  • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:19PM (5 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:19PM (#1079249)
    IIRC, there was an issue where a *count* (e.g. not an actual voting machine) in a single district (can't remember if at state or county level) wrongly released a number of votes to the media attributed to Trump rather than Biden. This was quickly corrected, but not promptly enough to prevent a number of stations broadcasting the wrong data then retracting it shortly after. Most sane media followed up on this and verified that the issue was indeed clerical, some including statements from both DEM & GOP election supervisors that this was the case. I dare say some pro-Trump sections of the media span things slightly differently though, so perhaps this is what OP was refering to?

    Besides, lets use Occam's razor here. If the DEMs actually did stuff some ballots in some of the swing states, then why would some of those states collectively vote Biden for President but a GOP candidate for either Senate and/or Congressional races? If you're going to all that risk and trouble to steal an election, it would be a bit of an oversight NOT to ensure you had all three houses in the bag and as close to carte blanche as you can get for the next four years, no?
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:41PM (#1079274)

      Where do you stop? Do you make it suddenly now there were folks who voted all republican on local politics/issues, but Biden/Democrat federally? That'd look even more suspicious. But if you start changing entire tickets then you're going to leave *huge* glaring statistical abnormalities. By contrast here they can try to claim there just a whole bunch of anti-Trump republicans which is 100% contradicted by polling, but it's a datum that's less optically absurd.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:52PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @04:52PM (#1079278)

      why would some of those states collectively vote Biden for President but a GOP candidate for either Senate and/or Congressional races?

      Have to understand historical election fraud in the US. It's very hard to prove election fraud in court.

      But if you stuff ballots for every race you open yourself to more potential damaged parties and lawsuits. If you stuff ballots with one candidate only one candidate will have proper standing in the courts that will be taken seriously. It makes it harder to be challenged but is a red flag for something wrong.

      Note that there are huge discrepancies in Biden only ballots in only a few states that are contested. There are no such discrepancies for Trump across the States that I am aware of.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @09:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 19 2020, @09:09PM (#1079425)

        Yeah, well, no [washingtonpost.com].

        When you move off of conservative media and into the courtroom where you have to put up or shut up, there's nothing there.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday November 20 2020, @05:14AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 20 2020, @05:14AM (#1079637) Journal

      then why would some of those states collectively vote Biden for President but a GOP candidate for either Senate and/or Congressional races?

      Perhaps because neither Trump or Biden has coattails, and Trump has performed so terribly that he lost a bunch of Republican voters this time around.

      • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Friday November 20 2020, @09:36AM

        by zocalo (302) on Friday November 20 2020, @09:36AM (#1079670)
        To be clear, the question was rhetorical. It seems pretty clear that the logical explanation for the split is Republicans who don't want Trump is the White House, but do want GOP representation in the Senate/Congress if the alternative has to be a Biden presidency. (Also, if the system actually functioned and wasn't so partisan then splitting the three houses should - in theory - provide checks and balances). In terms of stuffing ballots, I guess you might do that for plausible deniability that it even happened, but probably not to the extent that actually occured, e.g. it seems incredibly unlikely that the Democrats will have control of the Senate, and will thus be banging heads with McConnell for the next four years.
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