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posted by requerdanos on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the twitter-and-facebook-and-twitch-and-snapchat-and... dept.

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:

US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.

Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".

Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.

Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.

Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."

It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".

Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.

The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."

[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.

Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.

[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?

(Emphasis retained from original.)

Also at Ars Technica, CNET

Full Twitter explanation at: blog.twitter.com

Pro-Trump Rioters Breached US Capitol; EC Confirms Biden; Trump "Responds"; Dems Win GA [Updates: 2]


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:41PM (44 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:41PM (#1097584)

    Nearly simultaneous action on multiple platforms to silence voices and eliminate competing platforms does involve a big conspiracy. Alex Jones was the test case. This situation stinks to high heaven and anyone who isn't too busy gaslighting can see that.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:10PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:10PM (#1097604)

    Or they all thought he was a dick for a longtime, and couldn't justify booting him until the same event occurred.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:25PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:25PM (#1097612)

      There was a wave of bans on multiple platforms, actions against Parler, and more. This is not just about your President.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:22PM (9 children)

        by Tork (3914) on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:22PM (#1097641)
        You're not clear on the scope of just how bad your 'team' acted. This is not about a nip-slip.
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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:45PM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:45PM (#1097651)

          The capitol protest only caused the social media purge to come a few weeks early. Your team has given everyone a gift by clearly drawing the battle lines. Decentralization will benefit everyone who wants free speech but doesn't want to be spied on by the tech giants.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:01PM (7 children)

            by Tork (3914) on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:01PM (#1097655)
            And in time you lot will find something else to rail against because you won't quit behaving badly and burning bridges. Seriously, your problem isn't big-tech or censorship or that you're even somehow being bullied, it's that your 'team' keeps using ad-supported platforms and your behaviour is toxic to advertisers.
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            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:28PM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:28PM (#1097663)

              Big tech purging edgy conservatives was to be expected and is not the real problem. Neither is advertising. The real problem is that if you try to compete with big tech, your ability to operate and handle money becomes targeted. Your hosting, DDOS mitigation, search engine presence, ability to accept payments and donations, and other weak points will all be attacked.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:53PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:53PM (#1097674)

                True those kinds of actions are troubling, so we need cases brought to court so we can have anti-discrimination precedent set. Whining about Twitter kicking Trump off is not the way to go, the answer is to make sure anyone can set up their own servers. ISP access and domain registration are the way to go, hosting providers should be able to decide what content they are OK having on their servers. So GoDaddy can kick a website off their hosting, but must still provide registration services for anyone's domain that isn't violating the law.

              • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM (2 children)

                by Tork (3914) on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM (#1097710)
                Reducing the number of people you have to depend on will buy you time, that's about it. If you're famous for shitting in swimming pools, and you get banned from the big water parks for it, that doesn't mean society is enduring the tyranny of big-theme-park.
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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:50AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:50AM (#1098799)

                  No, allowing financial institutions to arbitrarily block people from sending their own money to a person or organization is a serious problem. They did this to Wikileaks in 2010, where the US government exerted pressure on MasterCard and other companies behind the scenes to get them to do a financial blockade on Wikileaks. That's what can happen if these companies are allowed to act with impunity; nothing even needs to be made explicitly illegal.

                  Twitter banning somehow is much less of a concern than this.

                  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday January 12 2021, @02:38PM

                    by Tork (3914) on Tuesday January 12 2021, @02:38PM (#1098853)

                    You're still operating in a world where businesses have to be willing in order do business with you.

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              • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (#1097747)

                Why fight a battle with big tech over microblogging, just join to the fediverse, where your local admin decides the rules. Other servers might block you if you're being high maintainance and an annoyance to their users, but your platform won't be shut down unless you piss off your admin... in which case you move to a server that's more suitable for you.

                Link: https://freespeechextremist.com/ [freespeechextremist.com]
                Description: A general instance that values users' freedom and censors no viewpoints or opinions or conspiracy theories.

                • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:00AM

                  by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:00AM (#1097784)

                  Yes, these people could all set up their own federated social network system, like Diaspora or Mastodon, but the problem is that they're just too stupid to do that. Those kind of networks require more intelligence and determination to get involved in that simply joining Twitter or Facebook. These people can't even understand what "federation" means; if they can't understand what a federated social network is or how it works at a basic level, how are they possibly going to make use of it? These conservatives think they're smart and self-reliant, but they're completely the opposite. If they were really self-reliant, they wouldn't be whining about Twitter "censorship", and would be setting up their own methods of communication that can't be easily blocked or taken down.

                  Seriously, they're mad now that Parler has been removed from Google Play store. It doesn't take a degree in software engineering to install an Android app from an .apk file. But still, this is FAR too difficult for these mouth-breathing morons.

                  It's funny: I'm old enough now to remember when computers mostly ran MS-DOS, and regular, lowly administrative office workers had to use the DOS command line to get anything done, because GUIs just weren't that common. But people back then somehow managed to use these machines and get stuff done anyway. But these days, these same people, many of whom seem to be older than me and surely remember those days too, and maybe even had to use DOS themselves, can't do anything with tech unless it's as simple as a few taps on their phone.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (#1097748)

        Parler is a CIA honeypot.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:03AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:03AM (#1097754)

          Did they get money from In-Q-Tel?

    • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:34PM

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:34PM (#1097666) Journal
      Obviously they were all waiting for someone else to be the first. That it took an attempted coup to do it shows how spineless the business "leaders " are. Apparently it was Twitter employees who forced the issue.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @08:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @08:53PM (#1097966)

      and couldn't justify booting him

      Why did they need a justification if they had the right to ban him all along?

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:13PM (27 children)

    by Tork (3914) on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:13PM (#1097634)

    Umm... yeah that big conspiracy that made social media collude both simultaneously and odoriferously was an attempted insurrection where people DIED. 🙄

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:21PM (15 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:21PM (#1097639)

      Yeah, they shut all that shit down with CHAZ/CHOP.

      Oh, wait.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:26PM (14 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:26PM (#1097643)

        Peaceful occupation vs. violent insurrection. Methinks you idiots don't understand the concept of personal responsibility. Sure is fun watching domestic terrorists get arrested though.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:53PM (10 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:53PM (#1097653)

          There was definitely violence and deaths at CHAZ/CHOP. Here we had one officer die, which would be a badge of honor for any antifa. You can decide whether a pig's life is worth more or less than the others. Aside from that, there was some furniture and windows damaged, but the priceless art collection went unscathed.

          • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:04PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:04PM (#1097656)
            Your entire post is a creative writing exercise.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:03PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:03PM (#1097679)

              You are force fed slop until you regurgitate. It's cumming out of all your holes.

              • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:09PM

                by Gaaark (41) on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:09PM (#1097906) Journal

                Pot calling kettle...yeah!, We're both black!

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          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by helel on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:47AM (1 child)

            by helel (2949) on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:47AM (#1097769)

            CHAZ/CHOP [vox.com] was in effect for about three weeks before two people were killed with neither incident having anything to do with the protest. The only accusation that stands against the protesters is that if the police had still been active in the area they might have intervened in time to prevent the deaths.

            By contrast there's no doubt at all that it was Trumps rioters who murdered Brian Sicknick [nytimes.com] and trampled Rosanne Boyland [nypost.com] to death.

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            • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:23AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:23AM (#1097790)

              By contrast there's no doubt at all that it was Trumps rioters who murdered Brian Sicknick [nytimes.com] and trampled Rosanne Boyland [nypost.com] to death.

              Bears repeating. Not like that cowardly teen, or the delinquent with a Dodge, these people killed a police officer who was serving the United States. They are rebels, murderers, and scum. The tread on the woman with the "don't tread on me" flag! And killed her! How low can the right go? Bad enough when it was just indefinite detention without charge, or separating children from their parents at the border, or allowing Stephen Miller to attempt to breed, but now this.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Sunday January 10 2021, @03:56PM (4 children)

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @03:56PM (#1097900) Journal

            It ceased to be a peaceful protest the moment you forced a way through the security cordon. You could have stopped there and nobody could have done anything about it.

            Once it was no longer a peaceful process you were responsible collectively for what subsequently occurred.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 11 2021, @02:36PM (2 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 11 2021, @02:36PM (#1098296) Journal

              Once it was no longer a peaceful process you were responsible collectively for what subsequently occurred.

              The same game was played with criticism of the Floyd protests. People who legally protested were lumped with the rioters, looters, and arsonists who also came out to play. As we've long ago discovered, you can't have collective responsibility over something you don't collectively control.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:28PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:28PM (#1099120)

                Ooooh, khallow might be edging towards self-awareness!

                Couple of problems though.

                a) BLM protesters were punished by being physically assaulted and arrested
                b) Every insurrectionist that breached the barriers is guilty of at least felony trespassing if they did not participate in any of the violence
                c) Bears repeating, peaceful protesters were punished
                d) Collective responsibility != legal repercussions, but you should at least have the courage to denounce these seditious cunts instead of constantly downplaying isur-fucking-rection

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday January 13 2021, @11:58PM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 13 2021, @11:58PM (#1099706) Journal

                  d) Collective responsibility != legal repercussions, but you should at least have the courage to denounce these seditious cunts instead of constantly downplaying isur-fucking-rection

                  Like you have the courage to blow a protest way out of proportion? "seditious"? "isur-fucking-rection"?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @05:32PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @05:32PM (#1098400)

              Well, no, they could have gassed and rubber bulleted them as soon as authority decided they were no longer peacable, just like they did to BLM.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:29PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:29PM (#1097883) Journal

          Peaceful occupation vs. violent insurrection.

          Keep in mind who got "peacefully" occupied. When you can't run a business or live in your home because some violent squatters took over the block, it's not peaceful occupation.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @05:32PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @05:32PM (#1097928)

          Talk to the people who actually lived in the area. It was hardly peaceful, even if you count protection rackets as peaceful.

          But they were explicitly calling themselves outside the scope of the US governments. See the big "Now leaving the US" sign. This is indeed sedition. If that's the excuse, apply it evenly. Hahahahaha. Yeah, that'll happen.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @08:29PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @08:29PM (#1097963)

            Poor idiots, one day you'll grow up.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:56PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:56PM (#1097654)

      To bring about real change, we both have to highlight a problem and make people in power uncomfortable.

      I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be.

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:01AM (9 children)

        by Tork (3914) on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:01AM (#1097753)
        There was no substance to the allegations, so just the top few percent of the least judgementally-competent people went out to protest.
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        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:43AM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:43AM (#1097796)

          If you're a D there was no substance to the allegations. That's what I hate about you Ds- smug arrogance. Everyone who disagrees with you all is an idiot, moron, doesn't deserve to live. About 1/2 of the US population. Maybe more if votes could be counted accurately. You who preach equality, rail against racism- well, unless someone is committing racism against whiteys. Or anyone you deem idiots. Pompous eliteists.

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by Tork on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:48AM

            by Tork (3914) on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:48AM (#1097797)

            Another reply, yet still no substance. 💩

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday January 10 2021, @06:51AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday January 10 2021, @06:51AM (#1097818) Journal

            If you're a D there was no substance to the allegations. That's what I hate about you Ds- smug arrogance. Everyone who disagrees with you all is an idiot, moron, doesn't deserve to live. About 1/2 of the US population.

            Not only if you are a D is there no substance to the allegations, Republican judges found no substance to the allegations. And so, yes, you are correct, everyone who disagrees is an idiot, or a moron, and quite possibly both (cf. Runaway1956), and probably does not deserve to live, but the charity of the Liberal half of the nation keeps them going with disability benefits, social security, unemployment benefits, and all the other programs that these idiot morons try to scam. Actually, they do not deserve to live, but we keep them around because, Family means no one gets left behind. No matter how batshit crazy they have become by being sucked into the QAnon world. How crazy have you become, AC? Do you kneed an intervention? Post your particulars, and we can notify your family. And if you have no family, we can either alert the SWAT team, or tell you where to get a real deal on a single use RV. Your choice, let us know.

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          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by khallow on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:32PM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:32PM (#1097886) Journal

            Maybe more if votes could be counted accurately.

            I'm willing to grant that you probably are an idiot. That the election fraud claims were shot down so fast in court strongly indicates that they were baseless. I certainly wouldn't raid the Capitol building for something so flimsy.

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by hemocyanin on Monday January 11 2021, @05:23AM (2 children)

              by hemocyanin (186) on Monday January 11 2021, @05:23AM (#1098132) Journal

              This is mostly untrue -- the claims in case after case were largely dismissed on technicalities like standing or laches, often warped beyond their usual application. This means that any evaluation of the evidence was intentionally avoided. I'd suggest the dissents in the WI Supreme Court case to get a better understanding of how seriously the judicial branch abdicated its power.

              https://www.wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.pdf?content=pdf&seqNo=315395 [wicourts.gov]

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @06:35AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @06:35AM (#1098161)

                Shut up, hemocyanin, you traitorous lime-lipped lizard. You object to the highest court in the land, because YOU know better? What an idiot! The WI Supreme court was stuffed with Republican treason clowns under Scott Walker, they have been overruled at every turn by non-insane judges. Now go an shut the fuck up, hemo! And tell your momma I told you so.

              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @02:45PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @02:45PM (#1098300)

                Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.

                https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/federal-appeals-court-issues-stinging-rejection-trump-campaign/story?id=74431333 [go.com]

                This sounds like it was decided on merits to me.

                This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/judges-trump-election-lawsuits/2020/12/12/e3a57224-3a72-11eb-98c4-25dc9f4987e8_story.html [washingtonpost.com]

                This one seems like it was decided after people started claiming that the rejections were not on merits, and the judge stated his opinion specifically in a way to show that this is a false assertion.

          • (Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:14PM

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:14PM (#1097907) Journal

            I'm not a D or a R. I am not an American.

            From the outside looking in, nobody has shown to any courts satisfaction that any vote manipulation took place. Even Trumps lawyers admitted that they had no evidence. I know what the US media are reporting - and it depends on their own political bias. Try reading what the rest of the world are reading - from sources that do not have a D or R bias. Trump lost - but he had convinced himself that such a thing was unlikely, indeed he thought it was impossible. But he pissed off too many of the electorate which galvanized them into action bringing about what Trump did not believe could happen.

            Where was the medicare announcement - always a few weeks away from being announced for almost 4 years? Where was the financial support for those who could not work because of the virus? How are the employment figures now compared to when he came into office. How is the national debt looking? How much iron/steel or coal industry has been restarted? How is the swamp looking now? Have there been more or fewer people being found guilty in court because of how they acted in support of a standing President. Why did he need them to act like this? Where are the tax cuts for the working man that he promised?

            I'm sure you have answers that satisfy yourself - but from the outside looking in he just hasn't delivered. He has been a world-wide divisive character in the economy, trade, military alliances, nuclear weapon proliferation agreements, pitching US state against state, encouraging racial disharmony, and on, and on, and on.

            His only remaining option is to now incite civil unrest, and hope that the impossible happens.

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Gaaark on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:19PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:19PM (#1097908) Journal

            Why is it that when a Republican won, the votes we're fair and square, but when a Democrat won it was stolen?

            You people just can't think straight and your bias and low education is showing: Trump lost and Trump is not as stable as he once was (which is not saying much at all). He lost and he has blown all credibility he once might have had.
            Trump is a loser but unlike Hitler, he doesn't have the balls to kill himself.

            Get outside once in a while and look at reality.

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