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posted by requerdanos on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the twitter-and-facebook-and-twitch-and-snapchat-and... dept.

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:

US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.

Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".

Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.

Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.

Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."

It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".

Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.

The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."

[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.

Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.

[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?

(Emphasis retained from original.)

Also at Ars Technica, CNET

Full Twitter explanation at:

Pro-Trump Rioters Breached US Capitol; EC Confirms Biden; Trump "Responds"; Dems Win GA [Updates: 2]

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:28PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:28PM (#1097663)

    Big tech purging edgy conservatives was to be expected and is not the real problem. Neither is advertising. The real problem is that if you try to compete with big tech, your ability to operate and handle money becomes targeted. Your hosting, DDOS mitigation, search engine presence, ability to accept payments and donations, and other weak points will all be attacked.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @10:53PM (#1097674)

    True those kinds of actions are troubling, so we need cases brought to court so we can have anti-discrimination precedent set. Whining about Twitter kicking Trump off is not the way to go, the answer is to make sure anyone can set up their own servers. ISP access and domain registration are the way to go, hosting providers should be able to decide what content they are OK having on their servers. So GoDaddy can kick a website off their hosting, but must still provide registration services for anyone's domain that isn't violating the law.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM (2 children)

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM (#1097710)
    Reducing the number of people you have to depend on will buy you time, that's about it. If you're famous for shitting in swimming pools, and you get banned from the big water parks for it, that doesn't mean society is enduring the tyranny of big-theme-park.
    🏳️‍🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️‍🌈
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:50AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @09:50AM (#1098799)

      No, allowing financial institutions to arbitrarily block people from sending their own money to a person or organization is a serious problem. They did this to Wikileaks in 2010, where the US government exerted pressure on MasterCard and other companies behind the scenes to get them to do a financial blockade on Wikileaks. That's what can happen if these companies are allowed to act with impunity; nothing even needs to be made explicitly illegal.

      Twitter banning somehow is much less of a concern than this.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday January 12 2021, @02:38PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 12 2021, @02:38PM (#1098853)

        You're still operating in a world where businesses have to be willing in order do business with you.

        🏳️‍🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️‍🌈
  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:40AM (#1097747)

    Why fight a battle with big tech over microblogging, just join to the fediverse, where your local admin decides the rules. Other servers might block you if you're being high maintainance and an annoyance to their users, but your platform won't be shut down unless you piss off your admin... in which case you move to a server that's more suitable for you.

    Link: []
    Description: A general instance that values users' freedom and censors no viewpoints or opinions or conspiracy theories.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:00AM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday January 10 2021, @04:00AM (#1097784)

      Yes, these people could all set up their own federated social network system, like Diaspora or Mastodon, but the problem is that they're just too stupid to do that. Those kind of networks require more intelligence and determination to get involved in that simply joining Twitter or Facebook. These people can't even understand what "federation" means; if they can't understand what a federated social network is or how it works at a basic level, how are they possibly going to make use of it? These conservatives think they're smart and self-reliant, but they're completely the opposite. If they were really self-reliant, they wouldn't be whining about Twitter "censorship", and would be setting up their own methods of communication that can't be easily blocked or taken down.

      Seriously, they're mad now that Parler has been removed from Google Play store. It doesn't take a degree in software engineering to install an Android app from an .apk file. But still, this is FAR too difficult for these mouth-breathing morons.

      It's funny: I'm old enough now to remember when computers mostly ran MS-DOS, and regular, lowly administrative office workers had to use the DOS command line to get anything done, because GUIs just weren't that common. But people back then somehow managed to use these machines and get stuff done anyway. But these days, these same people, many of whom seem to be older than me and surely remember those days too, and maybe even had to use DOS themselves, can't do anything with tech unless it's as simple as a few taps on their phone.