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Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:
US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.
Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".
Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.
Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.
Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."
It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".
Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.
The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."
[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.
Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.
[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?
(Emphasis retained from original.)
Also at Ars Technica, CNET
Full Twitter explanation at: blog.twitter.com
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:39AM (2 children)
AC you replied to here.
That's great.
While I may not necessarily agree with all your points of view, I applaud your decision to speak out for yourself and participate in our political process.
I take your point WRT stereotyping, however your own words put you pretty solidly in to the first group I mentioned.
Which isn't surprising. Not because I was engaged in some attempt to pigeonhole people.
But rather because I wanted to draw a distinction between Americans who supported Donald Trump -- for whatever reasons -- and who also believe in our constitutional form of government, and those who are illiberal, disingenuous and seek to use violence, intimidation and lies to create an environment where they can rise to power.
As I said, you fit squarely into the first group -- and while I may not agree with you on all the issues, I respect your right to those stances and your political participation. You are a fellow American and I'm proud that you are.
While we may argue, sometimes vehemently, about policy differences, we both want to create an America that works for all of us. We are not enemies. Those that would threaten our system of government and way of life are. And we should treat them as such.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:28AM (1 child)
Thank you for your kind reply. I mostly took exception with the characterization of being a lifelong Republican who wouldn't vote for a Democrat. For me it used to be the exact opposite. I'm not necessarily angry and disillusioned either. Biden had enough negative baggage from the '94 crime bill, his actions around the coup in Ukraine, his family's questionable dealings there and China, while Trump was incumbent and I was better off overall, that the choice was clear to vote for Trump.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @03:31AM
Same AC again.
Fair enough. I suppose I could have left out some of the fluff, but I wanted to make it especially clear that I *wasn't* talking about normal Americans who believe in our constitutional government and the rule of law, when I singled out the violent, vicious hard-right wing that brought plastic police restraints, clubs, pipes, guns and molotov cocktails into the seat of our government to disrupt and harm/kill (why do they need those restraints? did they intend on taking hostages?) our elected representatives.
Because those folks *love* trying to claim that anyone who calls them out for the vicious scum they are is saying that about Republicans. Which isn't and never has been the truth.
Those people are not Republicans. They are totalitarian neo-fascists bent on destabilizing and destroying our democratic republic.
While I often have policy differences with elected R (and D, although less often) politicians, I recognize that our society can only thrive when all voices can be heard and considered. At which point, we should (although that doesn't happen nearly enough) compromise to the benefit of all Americans. Of course, when a compromise is a good one, no one is completely happy. And that rankles with some folks.
Sadly, the talking points of those on the far right have pulled many (slowly, as in boiling the frog) further and further away from positions upon which we can have compromise. There are loud voices on the center left (make no mistake, the Democratic Party is a center-right party on the general political spectrum) but while not marginalized, have nowhere near the influence of the far right on the Republican Party.
I suggest you read The Turner Diaries [wikipedia.org] (PDFs available if you poke around a bit). You'll find that some (note I say 'some', not many or all) of the ideas espoused as good and patriotic by the vicious, racist totalitarian 'heroes' of the novel are right now being used as Republican talking points, even though they don't actually reflect reality.
It's kind of scary, tbh.
Anyway, I'm ranting a bit now, but my point is that regardless of our political leanings, if we believe in the rule of law and the ideals of our constitutional government, we must advocate for our preferred policy positions but remember that those who disagree but share the same belief in our system of government and the rule of law are not our enemies, they are our brothers and sisters who can help us make our nation work better for all of us.