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posted by requerdanos on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the twitter-and-facebook-and-twitch-and-snapchat-and... dept.

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:

US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.

Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".

Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.

Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.

Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."

It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".

Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.

The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."

[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.

Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.

[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?

(Emphasis retained from original.)

Also at Ars Technica, CNET

Full Twitter explanation at: blog.twitter.com

Pro-Trump Rioters Breached US Capitol; EC Confirms Biden; Trump "Responds"; Dems Win GA [Updates: 2]


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:05PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:05PM (#1097422)

    So 75m people stormed the Capitol?

    The useful idiots stormed the Capitol.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot [wikipedia.org]

    They all believe the lies that Trump has been repeating for years and years. Started with the "media lies to you" and "media is the enemy of the people"

    https://medium.com/stories-ive-been-meaning-to-tell-you/the-big-lie-a490c3b441f8 [medium.com]

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:12PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:12PM (#1097430)

    “Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

    In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
    – Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

    Anyone ever involved in something interesting knows the news is incapable of accurate reporting. Most know the news is a bunch of bs by the time they are 25 or so.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:21PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:21PM (#1097439)

      That's why I only read Parler.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:26PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:26PM (#1097442)

        I don't know if you're trying to be sarcastic, but in an earlier age informing yourself from multiple sources used to be a good thing.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:37PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:37PM (#1097454)

          That's why I only read tea leaves. Moar sauce.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:52PM (#1097625)

          These days reading multiple sources will just move you up higher on the list of those to be liquidated. You will not think, comrade, you will obey.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:10PM (#1097482)

        I only believe what I read in the parlor. The fake news is reserved for the kitchen.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:54PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:54PM (#1097499)

      I read a novel thirty years ago that mentioned "Everything in the paper was bullshit, except for the sports page".

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:13PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:13PM (#1097506)

        > "Everything in the paper was bullshit, except for the sports page".

        I was in the sports pages once, as a kid. They got every detail wrong.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:02PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:02PM (#1097561)

          I think you mean the Comics.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:28PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:28PM (#1097446)

    Just look back to Germany the BROWN COATS/SHIRTS. They are the believing mob of Hilter. He used them to push for more police and tighter control of military. Then helped "wipe" them out, since he got what he wanted, Control.

    As anither side note: RED NECKS is from union movements in the coal mines of Kentucky. A red neck wore a red bandanna to show support for the unions. Also gave the police and Pinkerton targets to shot at with machine guns.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:44PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:44PM (#1097461)

      Actually Hitler effectively defunded all the local police then a national police filled the vacuum.

      "Heinrich Himmler, head of the SS, was named Chief of German Police in the Interior Ministry on 17 June 1936 after Hitler announced a decree which was to "unify the control of police duties in the Reich".[5] Traditionally, law enforcement in Germany had been a state and local matter. In this role, Himmler was nominally subordinate to Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick. However, the decree effectively subordinated the police to the SS. Himmler gained authority as all of Germany's uniformed law enforcement agencies were amalgamated into the new Ordnungspolizei, whose main office became populated by officers of the SS.[5]

      The police were divided into the Ordnungspolizei (Orpo or regular police) and the Sicherheitspolizei (SiPo or security police), which had been established in June 1936.[5] The Orpo assumed duties of regular uniformed law enforcement while the SiPo consisted of the secret state police (Geheime Staatspolizei or Gestapo) and criminal investigation police (Kriminalpolizei or Kripo). The Kriminalpolizei was a corps of professional detectives involved in fighting crime and the task of the Gestapo was combating espionage and political dissent. On 27 September 1939, the SS security service, the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) and the SiPo were folded into the Reich Main Security Office (Reichssicherheitshauptamt or RSHA). The RSHA symbolised the close connection between the SS (a party organisation) and the police (a state organisation).[6][7]

      In broad terms, Himmler pursued the amalgamation of SS and police into a form of "State Protection Corps" (Staatsschutzkorps), and used the expanded reach the police powers gave him to persecute ideological opponents and "undesirables" of the Nazi regime such as Jews, freemasons, the churches, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other groups defined as "asocial". The Nazi conception of criminality was racial and biological, holding that criminal traits were hereditary, and had to be exterminated to purify German blood. As a result, even ordinary criminals were consigned to concentration camps to remove them from the German racial community (Volksgemeinschaft) and ultimately exterminate them.[8]

      The Order Police played a central role in carrying out the Holocaust. By "both career professionals and reservists, in both battalion formations and precinct service" (Einzeldienst) through providing men for the tasks involved.[9]"
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnungspolizei [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:07PM (#1097480)

        Troll?

        I traveled to Berlin last year to research the 3. Reich for a class. I was surprised to find out that the Gestapo was for a long time only local to Prussia. Though Prussia for historical reasons covered a huge part of Germany. Think of a US made up of TX, NY, DC, DE, RI, VT, NH and MA by geographic size. I think the Gestapo arose from the Political Police which originally was aimed against treasonous conspiracies against the state of Prussia, but of course under the Nazis, they served the dictatorship.

        Yes, around 1936 things changed and the Gestapo appeared to be active nationwide. Kinda late, since one of the central points of organization of the Nazi state was to streamline a direct chain of command from the lowest party member to the (Supreme) Leader Hitler.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:13PM (#1097565)

        "and used the expanded reach the police powers gave him to persecute ideological opponents and "undesirables" of the Nazi regime such as Jews, freemasons, the churches, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and other groups defined as "asocial". The Nazi conception of criminality was racial and biological, holding that criminal traits were hereditary, and had to be exterminated to purify German blood."

        sounds pretty good to me.

        "As a result, even ordinary criminals were consigned to concentration camps to remove them from the German racial community (Volksgemeinschaft) and ultimately exterminate them.[8]"

        where's your #8? The Final sSolution was to kick the Jews out, not kill them, despite all the Jew lies to the contrary for decades. I imagine it was the same for non-jew undesirables.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @01:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @01:12PM (#1098253)

        Actually Hitler effectively defunded all the local police then a national police filled the vacuum.

        This is utter nonsense and false.

        https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-adolf-hitler-did-not-defund-police-nazi-germany/3206096001/ [usatoday.com]

        The claim that Nazi Germany defunded local police departments is false, historians say. In fact, Hitler’s regime relied on a brutally carceral system with significantly expanded police power in the early 1930s through the end of World War II in 1945.

        ...

        Nazi Germany fused police with state security forces
        “It’s simply not true that Hitler defunded the police. He ran on a law and order program, and it was a very harsh criminal justice policy the Nazis pursued,” said David Blackbourn, a scholar of modern German history and a professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville.
        The rise of the Nazi Party included a dramatic increase in both the powers of the police and the disruption of the court system used to hold them accountable, historians say.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:23PM (7 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:23PM (#1097490) Journal

      You might want to look again at the brown shirts again. A leading brown shirt was pretty openly challenging Hitler's control of the brown shirts. Right or wrong Hitler had to either establish his authority, or relinquish control of the brown shirts. A couple dozen brown shirts were executed, and the organization was absorbed into other Hitler controlled organizations.

      You are generally correct, but the majority of brown shirts were "rehabilitated", and found new life in the Nazi machine.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @06:43PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @06:43PM (#1097547)

        I'm honestly curious: don't you get tired of having to explain history to this bunch of morons, over and over and over again?

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:16PM (5 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:16PM (#1097569) Journal

          We can hope that one or two or maybe even three individuals learns something when asked to review history. The rest will ignore any such invitation.

          • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:34PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:34PM (#1097581)

            Well, I learned something today, so thank you.

          • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:57PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:57PM (#1097595)

            These days you can get banned from reddit for explaining newton, carnot, einstein, etc didnt use any statistics.

            Meanwhile the people calculating p values all day have failed to figure out any laws or cure anything like cancer, alzhiemers, or heart disease despite about 100,000,000x more funding.

            No inconvenient facts allowed. A great stagnation is deepening..

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:23PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:23PM (#1097689)

              Damn you're stupid, and people modding you up for that clearly insane bullshit?

              Just shows how many morons hang around SN.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:49AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:49AM (#1097751)

                What to expect of anyone who claims to have learned things from Runaway?

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:31PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:31PM (#1097698)

            We learned that you asshole conservatives truly are Nazis and all your whinging was bullshit distraction from that fact that you're traitorous fascist scum. Thankfully the entire country now clearly sees what you are.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:34PM (#1097450)