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posted by requerdanos on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the twitter-and-facebook-and-twitch-and-snapchat-and... dept.

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:

US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.

Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".

Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.

Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.

Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."

It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".

Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.

The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."

[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.

Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.

[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?

(Emphasis retained from original.)

Also at Ars Technica, CNET

Full Twitter explanation at: blog.twitter.com

Pro-Trump Rioters Breached US Capitol; EC Confirms Biden; Trump "Responds"; Dems Win GA [Updates: 2]


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:49PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:49PM (#1097465)

    75,000,000 great patriots who voted for me...

    ... Yes there were those, however, there were 81,000,000 great patriots who voted for Biden - any suggestion otherwise (on either side) is mere demonization of one's opposition and false on its face.

    How can we believe that POTUS is a victim and has been censored and silenced, when he retains the authority to command that his messages be disseminated on any of thousands of ".gov" web-pages.

    The fact that some people (and corporations) can choose not to participate in or abet his [darth] seditious enterprises must be seen as evidence of freedom continuing to exist in the USA.

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  • (Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:56PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @03:56PM (#1097474)

    Yes there were those, however, there were 81,000,000 great patriots who voted for Biden - any suggestion otherwise (on either side) is mere demonization of one's opposition and false on its face.

    A fair election doesn't prevent observers from observing, throws observers of the opposition party out of the building, pastes up the windows with papers to prevent them from even looking in, claims that the building needs to be evacuated, then pulls out suitcases of ballots from under the table and continues counting. If the election was intended to be fair, it would not have needed "tricks" like that to carry it out. If they had not pulled those "tricks", the losing side wouldn't have so many people believing it was rigged.

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:31PM (1 child)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 09 2021, @04:31PM (#1097491) Journal

      The victors write the history though. In years to come, those of us who witnessed all the shenanigans via video feeds will be branded insane. The events we witnessed on election day never happened.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:37PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:37PM (#1097647)

        You are insane if you believed any of those "video feeds", Runaway. They were not "eye-witnessing", they were incitement, and you are an idiot for falling for such lying manipulation. You should shut up, Runaway.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:15PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:15PM (#1097507)

      And plead not with us
      for those who are self-deceivers;
      for God loveth not him who is deceitful, criminal

      ---
      Qur'an 4:107 (Rodwelll translation)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:17PM (11 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:17PM (#1097606)

        It is hardly flamebait to say that a just God would lack affection for those who lie to themselves and others with criminal intent - and that those who plead for them do so in vain.

        Or perhaps the possibility that the Qur'an might actually contain some wisdom is just too scary for some.

        And if you are merely annoyed by the use of "God" and "Love", an equivalent truism can be constructed employing Pirsig's "Excellence", and that deceit and criminality are anathematic to it.

        Be fair in your judgement!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:26PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:26PM (#1097691)

          Fair has never been a part of Republicanism unless they feel like THEY are the ones being treated unfairly. Pure hypocrisy, expect nothing less.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:14AM (9 children)

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:14AM (#1097731) Journal

          Just because a book has something good in it doesn't mean the whole thing is true. Yahweh, the Abrahamic God-figure, is insane and evil, and this despite the fact that the Torah, Bible, and Qur'an have a few good bits in them.

          That's like saying you should eat a plate of shit because there's a few corn kernels in it and corn is nutritious.

          --
          I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @03:15AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @03:15AM (#1097776)

            Where there is a famine of truth, I am content to pick out the kernels thereof from any source I can find, wash them in the cleansing waters of solemn reflection, spice them with the salt of eloquence and pepper of brevity, and roast them in the flames they draw when posted on S/N, that perchance none of us might die for lack of food for thought.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @05:13AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @05:13AM (#1097805)

              OK, Ari!

          • (Score: 2) by nostyle on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:47PM (6 children)

            by nostyle (11497) on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:47PM (#1097888) Journal

            ...is insane...

            No one of us has a flawless comprehension of the worlds created by God. This does not make Him wrong.

            That said, we would be less than human if we did not weigh the evidence we encounter, and attempt to sort things out. People will succeed to greater and lesser degrees.

            ---
            Actually, I've seen "That Girl" [wikipedia.org]... And don't you be talkin' 'bout my mama!

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 10 2021, @11:41PM (5 children)

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 10 2021, @11:41PM (#1098006) Journal

              I was wondering when you were going to break cover and stop pretending...

              Anyway, your problem with arguments along the lines of "none of us knows enough/is smart enough to judge this wrong" is that it's self-destructive: none of us knows enough/is smart enough to judge this *right* either, in that case. Global, nuclear epistemological skepticism cuts both ways :)

              However, we *do* know that in order to *be* God, a being must have certain properties. Yahweh does not have them, and the existence of anything BUT Yahweh is, as shown above, conclusive proof that this specific God-figure does not exist (and neither does any other God in a similar theistic mode). This is why my concept of God is not like Yahweh, e.g., it's not a single, conscious, decision-making being.

              ...and it's especially not one that obviously evolved from other ANE deities and has a perpetual pissing match with one of its own creations that actually turns out to have the moral high ground over it 9_9

              --
              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @03:46AM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 11 2021, @03:46AM (#1098110)

                No, no,... it is a _heart_ thing.

                ---
                "Wouldst thou that the mind should not entrap thee?"

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:10AM (3 children)

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:10AM (#1098806) Journal

                  "It's a heart thing" means "Fuck you, I believe because I believe because I believe." By all means, chase your epistemological tail in an endless regress, but don't pretend that gets you anywhere. Fideism is not an argument and revelation is of necessity private.

                  --
                  I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @03:58PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @03:58PM (#1098896)

                    In my experience, there are things that the heart knows that the mind cannot fathom.

                    ---
                    What can a man do?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:39PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12 2021, @10:39PM (#1099127)

                      Election fraud and Trump's awesomeness?

                    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:50AM

                      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday January 13 2021, @01:50AM (#1099249) Journal

                      Sorry, but emotions aren't knowledge. Leaving aside that the heart does not "know" things period, what you're saying here reduces down to "I feel very strongly about things that I can't prove, and refuse to do my epistemic duty because muh feeeeeeeeeeelz." Again, fideism and revelation are of necessity private, and cannot convince anyone outside the self.

                      In case you're wondering, I'm not an atheist. For your purposes, I'm something much worse: someone who believes there is a God, *and has done the logical, philosophical, textual, and apologetic research to know it's not Yahweh.*

                      --
                      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:19PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:19PM (#1097570)

    "81,000,000 great patriots who voted for Biden"

    Only tv watching idiots (so most people) believe that ridiculous 81 million number. Anyone who actually voted for Biden is a special kind of stupid.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @07:43PM (#1097588)

      But since all challenges were summarily shot down, there's no way we'll ever know whether or not the Democrats really were better in mobilizing voters.

      Fact is, hundreds of processes and people were activated and the result is that Biden has been officially recognized by congress as the president to assume office on Jan 20. It worked out for Biden, if the stars had aligned differently, it may have been Trump. I don't like the result, but the process ended constitutionally and it wasn't one man, state or court that forced it.

      Civil war talk is crazy, imagine what you would lose! Our Republic has lived through similar crises before. What I wish for the future is that the politicians get scared into fostering active conciliation.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @02:10PM (#1097872)

        Wrong, the challenges were not summarily shut down. The judges listened to the lawyers and gave them a chance to present evidence. Some of the cases were thrown out after the lawyers did not present enough evidence to even have a trial.

        All that said, the DNC didn't do much to motivate voters except in Veorgia, Stacy Abrams worked her butt off over there. What mostly drove voters was not Biden, Harris, or anyone else. It was Trump the Fascist. The US voted against fascism, and as we are now seeing the fascists are responding as they do with violence and lies.