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posted by requerdanos on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the twitter-and-facebook-and-twitch-and-snapchat-and... dept.

Twitter permanently suspends Trump's account:

US President Donald Trump has been permanently suspended from Twitter "due to the risk of further incitement of violence", the company says.

Twitter said the decision was made "after close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them".

Mr Trump had earlier been locked out of his account for 12 hours.

Twitter then said that it would ban Mr Trump "permanently" if he breached the platform's rules again.

Reacting to the permanent ban, Trump 2020 campaign adviser Jason Miller tweeted: "Disgusting... if you don't think they're coming for you next, you're wrong."

It comes after Mr Trump tweeted several messages on Wednesday, calling the people who stormed the US Capitol "patriots".

Hundreds of his supporters entered the Capitol building as the US Congress attempted to certify Joe Biden's victory in the presidential election. The ensuing violence led to the deaths of four civilians and a police officer.

The siege took place just hours after Trump addressed supporters and told them: "We will never give up; we will never concede."

[...] On Thursday, Facebook said it had suspended Mr Trump "indefinitely". The popular gaming platform Twitch also placed an indefinite ban on the outgoing president's channel, which he has used for rally broadcasts. So has Snapchat.

Two online Trump memorabilia stores were closed this week by e-commerce company Shopify. On Friday, Reddit banned its "donaldtrump" forum for the president's supporters.

[...] The big question now is, can Trumpism survive without the backing of mainstream media? Or will it simply slip into the shadows of the internet?

(Emphasis retained from original.)

Also at Ars Technica, CNET

Full Twitter explanation at: blog.twitter.com

Pro-Trump Rioters Breached US Capitol; EC Confirms Biden; Trump "Responds"; Dems Win GA [Updates: 2]


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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by Tork on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:20PM (13 children)

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 09 2021, @05:20PM (#1097508)

    Reckon I should start banning folks here whose politics I find repugnant or is it only when you find them repugnant that folks should be silenced?

    You know damned good and well that if somebody here made a post that brought unwanted attention to SN you'd remove it, especially if investigators were sniffing around for federal offenses.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:05PM (#1097630)

    I suspect most of us have not read the "offending" Tweets that they chose to use as their basis for closing his account. The link [twitter.com] to their explanation is in the OP. Here they are:

    “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

    “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

    Those two tweets were used as justification for banning the President of the United States. And now thousands of other individuals are being purged as well, with no explanation whatsoever, not even farce used to ban the President. I don't think people understand the magnitude of what's happening right now. I'm sure you know of the "First they came for the..." poem. I'm not going to be cliche and recite that. What is much more interesting is this [ucsb.edu] discussion with the author of that poem, Martin Niemöller. If you are unaware, he was a Lutheran Pastor for some context to his comments:

    ... the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? We knew it, it was printed in the newspapers. Who raised their voice, maybe the Confessing Church? We thought: Communists, those opponents of religion, those enemies of Christians—"should I be my brother's keeper?"

    Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others. Isn't it best for all concerned if they are taken out of the middle [of society]? Only then did the church as such take note.

    Then we started talking, until our voices were again silenced in public. Can we say, we aren't guilty/responsible?

    The persecution of the Jews, the way we treated the occupied countries, or the things in Greece, in Poland, in Czechoslovakia or in Holland, that were written in the newspapers. … I believe, we Confessing-Church-Christians have every reason to say: mea culpa, mea culpa! We can talk ourselves out of it with the excuse that it would have cost me my head if I had spoken out.

    We preferred to keep silent. We are certainly not without guilt/fault, and I ask myself again and again, what would have happened, if in the year 1933 or 1934—there must have been a possibility—14,000 Protestant pastors and all Protestant communities in Germany had defended the truth until their deaths? If we had said back then, it is not right when Hermann Göring simply puts 100,000 Communists in the concentration camps, in order to let them die. I can imagine that perhaps 30,000 to 40,000 Protestant Christians would have had their heads cut off, but I can also imagine that we would have rescued 30–40,000 million [sic] people, because that is what it is costing us now.

    Big tech has been colluding to censor more and more of society, with each new offense being far less egregious than the one prior. This very overt entry into the realm of politics at the highest level is unprecedented, and disconcerting. In a normal country, if the president were being censored by corporations and media then government would act quickly to ensure they always have a voice. But in our country government and media/corporations are instead merging and colluding, and working to ostracize anybody who gets in their way.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:09PM (9 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:09PM (#1097632) Homepage Journal

    We don't remove anything legal, no. We removed spam once and we'll still remove very ill considered comments at the user's request but we do not remove explicitly political speech of any stripe and never will.

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    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:15PM (8 children)

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:15PM (#1097636)
      You certainly will if it ends in people dying. You've just admitted you'd do so for less.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:20PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:20PM (#1097638)

        Where did he do that?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @09:47PM (#1097652)
          Hit ctrl+f, then type the word 'removed'. If you still can't find it bookmark his post and reload after you've finished school.
      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:29PM (4 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday January 09 2021, @11:29PM (#1097696) Homepage Journal

        No, we will not. Speech, like guns, does not kill people.

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        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:14AM (1 child)

          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:14AM (#1097707)
          Easy to say when you're not facing a user-created shitstorm.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:37AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:37AM (#1097746)

          Speech, like guns, does not kill people.

          Yeah, right! It is the bullets and the words that do the actual killing part! Good point, Buzzard!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:22AM (#1097709)

        You've just admitted you'd do so for less.

        It's not less if you consider spam worse.

  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:07AM (1 child)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday January 10 2021, @01:07AM (#1097729) Journal

    Like that set of Runaway's frothier rants I've been screenshotting and saving links to...?

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @12:56PM (#1097850)

      The level of obsession between you two is very creepy. I think if you stop stalking each other, it will improve your mental health.