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posted by mrpg on Friday May 28, @11:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-could-go-wrong dept.

Ohio lawmakers want to abolish vaccine requirements:

[...] Lawmakers are working on legislation to call off the lottery immediately. They're also trying to head off any plans for "vaccine passports." And last month, they introduced a sweeping antivaccination bill that would essentially demolish public health and vaccination requirements in the state—and not just requirements for COVID-19 vaccines, requirements for any vaccine.

[...] State Rep. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) blasted the bill, telling The Columbus Dispatch, "Not only would it prevent schools, businesses and communities from putting safety measures in pace related to COVID, it will impact the health of our children... This bill applies to all vaccines—polio, measles, meningitis, etc. If it becomes law we will see worsening measles outbreaks, meningitis in the dorms, and children once again suffering from polio."

[...] "At its core, this proposal would destroy our current public health framework that prevents outbreaks of potentially lethal diseases, threatens the stability of our economy as it recovers from a devastating pandemic and jeopardizes the way we live, learn, work and celebrate life," the letter said.

[...] "HB 248 would put all Ohioans at risk while increasing the cost of health care for families, individuals and businesses," spokesperson Dan Williamson said. "This proposal applies to all immunizations, including childhood vaccines. If passed, this legislation could reverse decades of immunity from life-threatening, but vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles, mumps, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis."

Also: Ohio GOP lawmakers, citing 'need to protect' from vaccines, seek to expand exemptions, nix COVID passports


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by RedGreen on Friday May 28, @02:20PM (27 children)

    by RedGreen (888) on Friday May 28, @02:20PM (#1139630)

    "What the fuck are you people doing over there?

    There are people that want the vaccine but can't get it, the US has it but actively doesn't want it."

    Republicans are racist fascist fucking morons and Democrats are spineless bastards who want to sit around and do nothing with the murdering thugs. A four decade long at least quest by the right wing garbage to undermine democracy at every turn yet they continue to put up with it, Eisenhower warned of the signs of it in the 1950s. Along with the Russians and now the Chinese who have long manipulated them into a cycle of self-destructive BS and they just lap it up. Showing their lies about freedom and equality they lived all the country's existence, we are in a war without a shot being fired by them. Sadly the west loses badly as that infection has taken hold in all the democracies of the world too, these weak slimy bastard politicians of all stripes going for power above all else at the expense of the people of this planet. I expect that behaviour from the dictators it is nothing new to history for them, the good governments used to at least try to be different now unless we have massive turn around it looks grim.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ChrisMaple on Friday May 28, @03:32PM (25 children)

    by ChrisMaple (6964) on Friday May 28, @03:32PM (#1139667)

    In 1830 Andrew Jackson and Martin van Buren formed the Democratic Party for the purpose of protecting, promoting, and preserving race-based chattel slavery. In 1896 William Jennings Bryan added theft to the Democratic Party agenda. Nothing significant has changed since then.

    The Republican Party was formed in 1854 with the abolition of slavery as its primary goal. That has not changed, either.

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by fustakrakich on Friday May 28, @04:04PM

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday May 28, @04:04PM (#1139688) Journal

      And now (ok, 53 years ago) they have merged

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Friday May 28, @05:54PM (21 children)

      by Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) on Friday May 28, @05:54PM (#1139762)

      They switched sides in the 20th century. Extensively documented.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by crafoo on Friday May 28, @06:21PM (20 children)

        by crafoo (6639) on Friday May 28, @06:21PM (#1139779)

        A lie, told often enough, doesn't make it true. No one switched sides. The left still openly and gleefully promotes slavery. I mean, they are too stupid to realize communism = slavery, but then democrats have never been all that intelligent.

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @06:57PM (15 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @06:57PM (#1139797)

          Slavery is where you can't leave your job because you will wind up homeless, pennyless and without health care for anyone in your family. There is a reason why the RWNJ's try to destroy every safety net ever legislated - they do the bidding of the slavers whose aim is to indenture everybody.

          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday May 28, @09:14PM (10 children)

            by sjames (2882) on Friday May 28, @09:14PM (#1139843) Journal

            In support of your statement, low wage employers have been wringing their hands over not enough people applying for their really shitty jobs. It's the Republicans that want an early end to enhanced unemployment benefits to force people to stop looking for a decent job and accept a crappy McJob now.

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @05:38AM (9 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @05:38AM (#1140190) Journal

              an early end to enhanced unemployment benefits to force people to stop looking for a decent job

              Sounds like those recipients aren't looking for jobs at all, much less the elusive decent job. Not a good argument for UBI or the OP's "statement", let us note.

              And of course, it's more important to get tribal and thwart them evil Republicans, rather than doing something good.

              The obvious rebuttal is that a crappy McJob gives you more freedom than than temporary government benefits that can be turned off at any time. You can always get another McJob at the drop of a hat. You can't always get another government.

              • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday May 30, @08:27AM (8 children)

                by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 30, @08:27AM (#1140212) Journal

                OTOH, it's a bit hard to go job hunting and interviewing if you're too busy asking "Want fries with that?".

                There are actually stats showing that employers a level or two above McJobs are having little to no difficulty recruiting. The potential employees are out there and they can be hired without bending them over a barrel, it's just that the McEmployers aren't willing to do what it takes.

                Many of the very same employers who were crying poverty in 2019 when raising minimum wage was being debated seem to have come up with the money to offer $15/hour now (in spite of a terrible year). They too are managing to find new employees.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @11:57AM (7 children)

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @11:57AM (#1140230) Journal

                  OTOH, it's a bit hard to go job hunting and interviewing if you're too busy asking "Want fries with that?".

                  Is it too much to expect people to do things that are a "bit hard"?

                  There are actually stats showing that employers a level or two above McJobs are having little to no difficulty recruiting.

                  Why again is that supposed to excuse screwing over McJobs employers and McJobs workers? How is someone supposed to get employers a level or two above McJobs when one's recent work history has a year or two gap?

                  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday May 30, @04:06PM (6 children)

                    by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 30, @04:06PM (#1140269) Journal

                    How are McJobs workers being screwed over by getting a chance to look hard for something better? The McJobs employers have been screwing the workers over for years and now the chickens are home to roost. Note that the ones that started offering better pay started getting applicants.

                    The employers a level or two above have a year long gap themselves, they're not going to look too hard at that right now.

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @09:58PM (5 children)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @09:58PM (#1140335) Journal

                      How are McJobs workers being screwed over by getting a chance to look hard for something better?

                      They already have the chance. Now, they're getting paid to slack off. Some will make those bad choices. And since the earlier poster was equating bad choices with slavery, this is more such bad choices that they can equate with slavery, should they choose to be fair.

                      The McJobs employers have been screwing the workers over for years and now the chickens are home to roost.

                      In rhetoric not reality.

                      The employers a level or two above have a year long gap themselves, they're not going to look too hard at that right now.

                      Because? It's always an issue.

                      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 31, @01:45AM (4 children)

                        by sjames (2882) on Monday May 31, @01:45AM (#1140396) Journal

                        So you're saying people will be happier if a central authority takes excessive choices away from them for their own good?

                        Arbeit macht frei perhaps?

                        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31, @02:06AM (3 children)

                          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 31, @02:06AM (#1140402) Journal

                          So you're saying people will be happier if a central authority takes excessive choices away from them for their own good?

                          No. I'm saying we'll all be better off, if government stops paying people to be bums.

                          • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 31, @02:50AM (2 children)

                            by sjames (2882) on Monday May 31, @02:50AM (#1140411) Journal

                            But apparently they're not being bums, they're looking for decently paying work. Employers willing to pay decently are not having any problem hiring.

                            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31, @05:05AM (1 child)

                              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 31, @05:05AM (#1140438) Journal

                              apparently

                              No evidence for this "apparently". It sure doesn't appear to me that way.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday May 29, @02:36AM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 29, @02:36AM (#1139921) Journal

            Slavery is where you can't leave your job because you will wind up homeless, pennyless and without health care for anyone in your family.

            Fortunately, the real world is not like slavery because you can get another job and thus not end up homeless, penniless, and without health care for anyone in your family.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29, @03:27PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29, @03:27PM (#1140042)

              Not necessarily. It's a big gamble. It's an even bigger gamble if you've elected to leverage your poverty-tier savings buying something like... Let's say a massively inflated vehicle so you can get to work. Lest we forget that means paying for full coverage auto insurance, which is incredulously expensive. But you don't have to be impoverished to be a slave to debt it's a question of lifestyle. Your oil rigger swine will hyper-leverage in good times and slave unquestioningly to keep his two 4x4's, RV, RAM 2500, and boat paid for. Even modest people who just want a reasonable house can be made slaves if the proportions are correct.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29, @07:17PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29, @07:17PM (#1140077)

                Slavery is not about pleasant or unpleasant experience but about the direct prevention of liberty.

                A man who works in a palace, lavished with concubines, and treated generally like royalty is, nonetheless, a slave if he would be directly prevented from ever abandoning said life if he sought to do so. That "you" (a major problem with internet discourse is people speaking for people they know nothing about, but alas) feel coerced to work to maintain your lifestyle does not make you a slave. If you want to give it all up tomorrow and see if you can make it out in the wilds, start pan handling on the streets, or make your way to France and join the Foreign Legion, then you are 100% free to do so. A slave is not and would immediately sought out, and generally reprimanded.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @02:36AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @02:36AM (#1140155) Journal

                Not necessarily. It's a big gamble.

                Compared to "homeless, pennyless and without health care"?

                It's an even bigger gamble if you've elected to leverage your poverty-tier savings buying something like... Let's say a massively inflated vehicle so you can get to work.

                If you're buying expensive bling like that, then you have a different opinion of the relative odds of the big gamble. Who am I to disagree?

                But you don't have to be impoverished to be a slave to debt it's a question of lifestyle. Your oil rigger swine will hyper-leverage in good times and slave unquestioningly to keep his two 4x4's, RV, RAM 2500, and boat paid for. Even modest people who just want a reasonable house can be made slaves if the proportions are correct.

                Making bad choices or having an expensive lifestyle is not slavery. Words have meaning.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 28, @08:27PM (3 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday May 28, @08:27PM (#1139821) Journal

          Those aren't lefties toting around Confederate Flags...

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:36PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:36PM (#1139849)

            No, they are the ones burning the American flag.

            • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:47PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:47PM (#1139853)

              Which is freedom of speech. Why do you hate freedom bro? Liberals win again, you must be hurtin. How did assaulting democracy work out for you? Seems like blue lives no longer matter to conservatives.

              What do you people actually stand for now?

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:41PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @09:41PM (#1139850)

            and literal Nazi flags . . .

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @05:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @05:58PM (#1139767)

      > Nothing significant has changed since then.

      Beginning in 1936, the Democrat and Republican parties swapped platforms. This was the beginning of the current racist, far-right, fascist, religious extremist Republican party that we all know today.

      Unfortunately, while the Republican party went full retard extreme "heil hitler" far-right. The Democratic party remained a right-leaning party, so we live in the dysfunctional hellscape* of a nation ruled from the right.

      https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html [livescience.com]

      *Shit for profit health care system where US does worse than any 1st or second world nation in metrics like infant mortality-- in fact worse than many poor 3rd world nations. We have a partially private for-profit prison system that imprisons more people both as a percentage of population and as absolute numbers than any other nation. Where judges have been convicted for taking bribes to send innocent children to private prisons destroying their lives. Where the military and the police are well funded, regularly commit atrocities, and are unaccountable. Etc.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @07:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @07:38PM (#1139811)

      And today the Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to keep statues of slaveholders up to preserve history. 🙄

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @04:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @04:49PM (#1139730)

    lol dude put down teh meth pipe and take some rest