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posted by mrpg on Friday May 28, @11:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-could-go-wrong dept.

Ohio lawmakers want to abolish vaccine requirements:

[...] Lawmakers are working on legislation to call off the lottery immediately. They're also trying to head off any plans for "vaccine passports." And last month, they introduced a sweeping antivaccination bill that would essentially demolish public health and vaccination requirements in the state—and not just requirements for COVID-19 vaccines, requirements for any vaccine.

[...] State Rep. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) blasted the bill, telling The Columbus Dispatch, "Not only would it prevent schools, businesses and communities from putting safety measures in pace related to COVID, it will impact the health of our children... This bill applies to all vaccines—polio, measles, meningitis, etc. If it becomes law we will see worsening measles outbreaks, meningitis in the dorms, and children once again suffering from polio."

[...] "At its core, this proposal would destroy our current public health framework that prevents outbreaks of potentially lethal diseases, threatens the stability of our economy as it recovers from a devastating pandemic and jeopardizes the way we live, learn, work and celebrate life," the letter said.

[...] "HB 248 would put all Ohioans at risk while increasing the cost of health care for families, individuals and businesses," spokesperson Dan Williamson said. "This proposal applies to all immunizations, including childhood vaccines. If passed, this legislation could reverse decades of immunity from life-threatening, but vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles, mumps, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis."

Also: Ohio GOP lawmakers, citing 'need to protect' from vaccines, seek to expand exemptions, nix COVID passports


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @04:02PM (9 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @04:02PM (#1139686)

    >. The shots are largely pointless

    I'm over 65, the covid vaccine doesn't seem pointless to me. Based on the data I've read, even if I do catch covid (still a possibility) my chances of getting a severe case are greatly reduced.

  • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Friday May 28, @04:25PM

    by ElizabethGreene (6748) on Friday May 28, @04:25PM (#1139707)

    For people in your age cohort and older you are spot on. Vaccination replaces a very real risk of severe COVID impact with a relatively trivial risk of living long enough to discover there is some currently-unknown long-term side effect.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @05:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28, @05:25PM (#1139744)

    Only for covered strains and of enough other people don't get vaccinated, the likelihood of mutations that defeat the vaccine increases.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Friday May 28, @05:37PM (6 children)

    by VLM (445) on Friday May 28, @05:37PM (#1139748)

    Another advantage of being old, is it seems inevitable in a decade or two we're going to hear TV commercials along the lines of "If you or a loved one took a covid vaccine in the early 2020s, you may be entitled to compensation, please call 1-800-whatever"

    If you're over 65 and it turns you sterile or gives you cancer in 40 years its like ... well ... nothing personal bro but you weren't going to make it that far anyway. I'm just saying if the vaccine gives you Alzheimer's in 50 years and you make it 50 years that sucks but statistically you're not gonna make it 50 years from now anyway. If the vaccine would have made you hideously ill twenty years after you died naturally of a stroke, it don't matter does it?

    Now give the vaccine to a kid who's 5 and essentially immune to covid anyway due to youth, and now they're sterile or have some awful autoimmune disease or cancer in 30 years and they get killed around the peak of their life, its a real tragedy. Not much potential upside and huge potential downside.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Friday May 28, @06:16PM (3 children)

      by crafoo (6639) on Friday May 28, @06:16PM (#1139777)

      COVID put real fear of mortality into the boomers. There is no amount of damage they won't do, no insane requirement they won't make the younger generations pay, to avoid: responsibility, death, paying the tab.

      • (Score: 2) by Barenflimski on Friday May 28, @06:30PM

        by Barenflimski (6836) on Friday May 28, @06:30PM (#1139787)

        Maybe. Where I'm at though, the millennials are at least as worried and at least as over the top as any other group. In other words, I don't see a big difference in thinking between the millennials, the Xers and the Boomers.

        From my experience, the folks I've talked to that haven't completely lost their minds are fairly well distributed among all of the groups.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Saturday May 29, @02:31AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 29, @02:31AM (#1139920) Journal

        COVID put real fear of mortality into the boomers. There is no amount of damage they won't do, no insane requirement they won't make the younger generations pay, to avoid: responsibility, death, paying the tab.

        I find it interesting how responsibility is evoked to avoid your responsibility. Here's my take. I respect the Boomer generation. They did a lot for us. I don't respect someone who evokes imaginary generational conflict to avoid doing the responsible thing. Be a man. Get the damn vaccine so you aren't helping spread covid.

      • (Score: 2) by ElizabethGreene on Sunday May 30, @03:23AM

        by ElizabethGreene (6748) on Sunday May 30, @03:23AM (#1140172)

        This does not match my non-scientific anecdotal observations. My Boomer friends were the ones pushing back hardest against the lockdowns extending into the fall, mask mandates, store closures, etc. Are you seeing something different on the ground?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Friday May 28, @09:07PM

      by sjames (2882) on Friday May 28, @09:07PM (#1139840) Journal

      Unless, of course, it means that in 20 years or so the now 25 year old is diagnosed with post-COVID syndrome. Or Grandpa dies of COVID and a few years later the kid realizes he might have been the asymptomatic carrier that gave it to him...

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 29, @05:03AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 29, @05:03AM (#1139954) Journal

      essentially immune to covid anyway due to youth

      May seem pedantic, but the kids are not inherently immune. They are less likely to die or suffer complications from it.
      I bet the premature born ones are a lot more likely to get a nasty form of it than those brought to term.

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