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posted by mrpg on Friday May 28, @11:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-could-go-wrong dept.

Ohio lawmakers want to abolish vaccine requirements:

[...] Lawmakers are working on legislation to call off the lottery immediately. They're also trying to head off any plans for "vaccine passports." And last month, they introduced a sweeping antivaccination bill that would essentially demolish public health and vaccination requirements in the state—and not just requirements for COVID-19 vaccines, requirements for any vaccine.

[...] State Rep. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) blasted the bill, telling The Columbus Dispatch, "Not only would it prevent schools, businesses and communities from putting safety measures in pace related to COVID, it will impact the health of our children... This bill applies to all vaccines—polio, measles, meningitis, etc. If it becomes law we will see worsening measles outbreaks, meningitis in the dorms, and children once again suffering from polio."

[...] "At its core, this proposal would destroy our current public health framework that prevents outbreaks of potentially lethal diseases, threatens the stability of our economy as it recovers from a devastating pandemic and jeopardizes the way we live, learn, work and celebrate life," the letter said.

[...] "HB 248 would put all Ohioans at risk while increasing the cost of health care for families, individuals and businesses," spokesperson Dan Williamson said. "This proposal applies to all immunizations, including childhood vaccines. If passed, this legislation could reverse decades of immunity from life-threatening, but vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles, mumps, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis."

Also: Ohio GOP lawmakers, citing 'need to protect' from vaccines, seek to expand exemptions, nix COVID passports


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  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday May 28, @09:14PM (10 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Friday May 28, @09:14PM (#1139843) Journal

    In support of your statement, low wage employers have been wringing their hands over not enough people applying for their really shitty jobs. It's the Republicans that want an early end to enhanced unemployment benefits to force people to stop looking for a decent job and accept a crappy McJob now.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @05:38AM (9 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @05:38AM (#1140190) Journal

    an early end to enhanced unemployment benefits to force people to stop looking for a decent job

    Sounds like those recipients aren't looking for jobs at all, much less the elusive decent job. Not a good argument for UBI or the OP's "statement", let us note.

    And of course, it's more important to get tribal and thwart them evil Republicans, rather than doing something good.

    The obvious rebuttal is that a crappy McJob gives you more freedom than than temporary government benefits that can be turned off at any time. You can always get another McJob at the drop of a hat. You can't always get another government.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday May 30, @08:27AM (8 children)

      by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 30, @08:27AM (#1140212) Journal

      OTOH, it's a bit hard to go job hunting and interviewing if you're too busy asking "Want fries with that?".

      There are actually stats showing that employers a level or two above McJobs are having little to no difficulty recruiting. The potential employees are out there and they can be hired without bending them over a barrel, it's just that the McEmployers aren't willing to do what it takes.

      Many of the very same employers who were crying poverty in 2019 when raising minimum wage was being debated seem to have come up with the money to offer $15/hour now (in spite of a terrible year). They too are managing to find new employees.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @11:57AM (7 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @11:57AM (#1140230) Journal

        OTOH, it's a bit hard to go job hunting and interviewing if you're too busy asking "Want fries with that?".

        Is it too much to expect people to do things that are a "bit hard"?

        There are actually stats showing that employers a level or two above McJobs are having little to no difficulty recruiting.

        Why again is that supposed to excuse screwing over McJobs employers and McJobs workers? How is someone supposed to get employers a level or two above McJobs when one's recent work history has a year or two gap?

        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday May 30, @04:06PM (6 children)

          by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 30, @04:06PM (#1140269) Journal

          How are McJobs workers being screwed over by getting a chance to look hard for something better? The McJobs employers have been screwing the workers over for years and now the chickens are home to roost. Note that the ones that started offering better pay started getting applicants.

          The employers a level or two above have a year long gap themselves, they're not going to look too hard at that right now.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30, @09:58PM (5 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 30, @09:58PM (#1140335) Journal

            How are McJobs workers being screwed over by getting a chance to look hard for something better?

            They already have the chance. Now, they're getting paid to slack off. Some will make those bad choices. And since the earlier poster was equating bad choices with slavery, this is more such bad choices that they can equate with slavery, should they choose to be fair.

            The McJobs employers have been screwing the workers over for years and now the chickens are home to roost.

            In rhetoric not reality.

            The employers a level or two above have a year long gap themselves, they're not going to look too hard at that right now.

            Because? It's always an issue.

            • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 31, @01:45AM (4 children)

              by sjames (2882) on Monday May 31, @01:45AM (#1140396) Journal

              So you're saying people will be happier if a central authority takes excessive choices away from them for their own good?

              Arbeit macht frei perhaps?

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31, @02:06AM (3 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 31, @02:06AM (#1140402) Journal

                So you're saying people will be happier if a central authority takes excessive choices away from them for their own good?

                No. I'm saying we'll all be better off, if government stops paying people to be bums.

                • (Score: 2) by sjames on Monday May 31, @02:50AM (2 children)

                  by sjames (2882) on Monday May 31, @02:50AM (#1140411) Journal

                  But apparently they're not being bums, they're looking for decently paying work. Employers willing to pay decently are not having any problem hiring.

                  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31, @05:05AM (1 child)

                    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 31, @05:05AM (#1140438) Journal

                    apparently

                    No evidence for this "apparently". It sure doesn't appear to me that way.