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Ohio lawmakers want to abolish vaccine requirements:
[...] Lawmakers are working on legislation to call off the lottery immediately. They're also trying to head off any plans for "vaccine passports." And last month, they introduced a sweeping antivaccination bill that would essentially demolish public health and vaccination requirements in the state—and not just requirements for COVID-19 vaccines, requirements for any vaccine.
[...] State Rep. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) blasted the bill, telling The Columbus Dispatch, "Not only would it prevent schools, businesses and communities from putting safety measures in pace related to COVID, it will impact the health of our children... This bill applies to all vaccines—polio, measles, meningitis, etc. If it becomes law we will see worsening measles outbreaks, meningitis in the dorms, and children once again suffering from polio."
[...] "At its core, this proposal would destroy our current public health framework that prevents outbreaks of potentially lethal diseases, threatens the stability of our economy as it recovers from a devastating pandemic and jeopardizes the way we live, learn, work and celebrate life," the letter said.
[...] "HB 248 would put all Ohioans at risk while increasing the cost of health care for families, individuals and businesses," spokesperson Dan Williamson said. "This proposal applies to all immunizations, including childhood vaccines. If passed, this legislation could reverse decades of immunity from life-threatening, but vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles, mumps, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis."
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday May 28 2021, @06:29PM (21 children)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @12:10AM (1 child)
Don't forget that the insurrection was supposedly ANTEEFUH and BLM, so they apparently don't want to get to the bottom of their own suspcions! They really don't give a fuck and their voters are goddamn happy to have psychopathic monsters that will piss off liberals. If only they could see how the rest of the world views them, if only for a day.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday May 29 2021, @12:57AM
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30 2021, @12:09PM (18 children)
Show the two are comparable. You might want to start with number of deaths.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Sunday May 30 2021, @04:22PM (17 children)
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 30 2021, @10:11PM (16 children)
Meanwhile we have four US personnel and an unknown number of Libyan attackers killed in the Benghazi attack with a lot of light infantry weapons deployed by both sides (including machine guns and mortars) and several buildings destroyed. Not even close.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday May 31 2021, @12:00AM (15 children)
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31 2021, @12:37AM (14 children)
Or if there had actually been said insurrectionists at the Capitol. There does seem to be a dearth of them.
Which didn't happen, let us note.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday May 31 2021, @03:23AM (13 children)
Amply proven yonks ago.
incompetence. T'was still attempted.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31 2021, @05:08AM (12 children)
Here's my best take [soylentnews.org] on that. The money quote:
Let us also recall that your argument was so weak that a big part of your arugment was wearing "civil war two" t-shirts was evidence of insurrection.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday May 31 2021, @07:27AM (11 children)
My argument was that they stated their intent. Your counter-argument danced between a change in scope and an .. hehe.. argument I made while satirizing your position. Their ultimate lack of success does not exonerate them, nor does pushing the goalpost into the middle of the smoke.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 31 2021, @08:46PM (10 children)
I see you already undermined the importance of "stated" with your subsequent comment about satire. A statement isn't enough without understanding all the ways that it can be deliberately distorted, such as by satire and exaggeration, both which I think played a role here in the protest chanting and merchandising.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Monday May 31 2021, @09:32PM (9 children)
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 01 2021, @12:11AM (8 children)
There's always plenty of time for satire and exaggeration. It's not hard to anticipate either.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 01 2021, @02:05AM (7 children)
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 01 2021, @02:32AM (6 children)
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 01 2021, @06:20AM (5 children)
There plenty of reason to criticize. Even in the eyes of their peers. Voting against the investigation was an act of self defense. 🙄
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 01 2021, @04:28PM (4 children)
Of course, there was. Such as the sudden claims (apparently as the riot was ongoing) that Antifa and such were staging the riot.
Such as the previous two House investigations of Trump? Voting against wasting one's time is a justifiable act of self-defense. Trump is a private citizen now. If there really is some criminal act of insurrection, coup, treason, whatever, he won't be protected by the office of the President.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 01 2021, @04:41PM (3 children)
Followed by sycophantic supporters going "nuh uh, bias! Biasss!!!!!!" Basically the insurrectionists did enough damage, with zero evidence to back their motivation, that the GOP is trying to figure out how to tiptoe around the minefield sustaining as little damage as possible. Perhaps they knew ahead of time that people would come out of the woodwork trying to minimize what they should instead have been condemning.
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday June 01 2021, @05:48PM (2 children)
The problem here is that in the real world, convictions for crimes require evidence. You need that first.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday June 01 2021, @05:51PM (1 child)
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(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 06 2021, @05:27AM
Which isn't insurrection. I've made it clear from the beginning that I agree that there were a bunch of people who dressed up and misbehaved, criminally on camera. That's not insurrection. Hyperbolic speech whether chanted or merchandised is not insurrection either.
I've also noted that these people will be investigated quite thoroughly. If there is evidence for insurrection, I think it likely that it'll turn up. That it hasn't already been found and spread about in the media doesn't look good for your argument.