Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

Politics
posted by mrpg on Friday May 28 2021, @11:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-could-go-wrong dept.

Ohio lawmakers want to abolish vaccine requirements:

[...] Lawmakers are working on legislation to call off the lottery immediately. They're also trying to head off any plans for "vaccine passports." And last month, they introduced a sweeping antivaccination bill that would essentially demolish public health and vaccination requirements in the state—and not just requirements for COVID-19 vaccines, requirements for any vaccine.

[...] State Rep. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) blasted the bill, telling The Columbus Dispatch, "Not only would it prevent schools, businesses and communities from putting safety measures in pace related to COVID, it will impact the health of our children... This bill applies to all vaccines—polio, measles, meningitis, etc. If it becomes law we will see worsening measles outbreaks, meningitis in the dorms, and children once again suffering from polio."

[...] "At its core, this proposal would destroy our current public health framework that prevents outbreaks of potentially lethal diseases, threatens the stability of our economy as it recovers from a devastating pandemic and jeopardizes the way we live, learn, work and celebrate life," the letter said.

[...] "HB 248 would put all Ohioans at risk while increasing the cost of health care for families, individuals and businesses," spokesperson Dan Williamson said. "This proposal applies to all immunizations, including childhood vaccines. If passed, this legislation could reverse decades of immunity from life-threatening, but vaccine-preventable diseases such as measles, mumps, hepatitis, meningitis and tuberculosis."

Also: Ohio GOP lawmakers, citing 'need to protect' from vaccines, seek to expand exemptions, nix COVID passports


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28 2021, @06:38PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 28 2021, @06:38PM (#1139789)

    I think a lot of what you've said here is questionable, but there's one very clear and hopefully illustrative logical error. this [foxnews.com]. That is what Trump was saying about the vaccines in a medium that targeted his voters. And that's not cherry picked. The all so objective Politifact (perhaps it may be necessary to add a /s here if you believe Trump worked against vaccination) also confirmed [politifact.com] that Trump regularly evangelized for the vaccines.

    The point here is not a "gotcha", but to emphasize a logical flaw. Trump did evangelize for the vaccines for months. Yet it also true that conservatives tend to be vastly less enthusiastic about the vaccines than liberals. If your interpretation of authoritarianism rules the day, what gives?

    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   +1  
       Insightful=1, Total=1
    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   1  
  • (Score: 2) by Aegis on Friday May 28 2021, @11:34PM (2 children)

    by Aegis (6714) on Friday May 28 2021, @11:34PM (#1139879)

    The sub-heading from your Fox article:

    The former president and first lady Melania Trump received their vaccines privately in January at the White House

    Yeah, he loves that vaccine so much he got his shots in secret!

    While everybody else was leading by example Trump "leadership" was two halfhearted statements while tricking people into thinking he wasn't vaccinated.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @12:03AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @12:03AM (#1139887)

      It is the Trump MO, play both sides of an issue so he can conveniently claim he was always on whichever side is convenient at the moment. He is a super troll, except contrary to some moldy bird's opinion he is terrible at it. The only thing that works in his favor are the idiots that believe him, and the legal framework that allows him to muddy the water as to his intent. Then it is just a game of making excuses as to why he ever said the bad things, which is also why the language he uses is always so vague.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @02:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @02:32PM (#1140031)

      By focusing on what was not done instead of what was done, you can easily convince yourself of anything. Because you can always add one more "Oh yeah? Well if he really cared about [x], why didn't he also do [y]?"

      Trump unquestionably advocated for the vaccines for months. Why didn't he publicize his own vaccination? Who knows? But to try to read into a single non-action as some sort of contradiction of months of consistent messaging on the topic is nothing but you engaging in cognitive dissonance to try to hold one view (Trump opposed vaccines) in spite of literally all evidence saying the exact opposite.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 29 2021, @05:28AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 29 2021, @05:28AM (#1139956) Journal

    Trump regularly evangelized for the vaccines

    He evangelized for Trump vaccines.
    He lost the bet he took (that a vaccine will be available before elections) and thus stopped evangelizing for it, just to not help a different-than-his administration that would distribute the vaccines. Going to the point of taking his shot in secret.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @07:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 29 2021, @07:21PM (#1140079)

      Or, alternatively, and more realistically - he spent his final months in office focused entirely on exposing what he felt were issues with the election.

      For that matter, was his shot given before or after he was censored from all corporate media in America? It may have been he was globally censored and then critiqued for not saying anything, which is taking our dystopia to a whole new level.