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posted by Fnord666 on Friday April 29 2022, @04:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the government-should-govern-moderation-policies dept.

Greene offers bill to abolish Section 230

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) on Thursday is introducing a bill to abolish Section 230 — the law the protects online platforms from liability — on the heels of Twitter accepting Elon Musk's offer to buy the company and take it private.

Greene's bill would eliminate the law making online platforms not liable for content posted by third parties and replace it with a provision to require "reasonable, non-discriminatory access to online communications platforms" through a "common carrier" framework that Greene compared to airlines or package delivery services.

Republicans have long claimed that social media platforms have an anti-conservative bias, pointing to tweets that have been taken down and the removal of entire feeds from networks.

[....] Titled the 21st Century FREE Speech Act, Greene's measure will serve as the House version of a Senate bill sponsored by Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.).

To combat the alleged bias against conservatives, it would prevent online communications platforms from exerting "undue or unreasonable preference or advantage to any particular person, class of persons, political or religious group or affiliation, or locality" and would provide consumers a mechanism to sue for violations.

Should any platform be liable for someone else's speech? Even if they engage in moderation?


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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @04:14PM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @04:14PM (#1240733)

    Indeed. This has all the look and feel of a big, juicy target just begging to be abused. I can hardly wait for this to become a new law. Just remember, MTG, you asked for this!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @06:47PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @06:47PM (#1240780)

    Just remember, MTG, you asked for this!

    No, the people that elected her did. The next election will confirm it one way or the other

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday April 29 2022, @07:44PM (14 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 29 2022, @07:44PM (#1240801) Homepage Journal

      No, the people that elected her did.

      You are rather naive. The electorate is so poorly informed, they don't know what to ask for, or what their representatives might give them. Not to mention that so-called representatives often run on a platform, which they intend to scrap on the evening of the election. If/when voters actually pay attention enough to know what a candidate is actually offering, and if/when voters continue to pay attention to see whether that representative lied or not, THEN we might have some decent government.

      Sometimes, I think voting really should be mandatory. You MUST vote, and you MUST display some minimal familiarity with the issues, as well as the candidates. But, what a bag of worms to get such a law passed, then put into force!

      --
      Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @08:04PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @08:04PM (#1240807)

        If/when voters actually pay attention enough to know what a candidate is actually offering, and if/when voters continue to pay attention to see whether that representative lied or not, THEN we might have some decent government.

        Yes, to remain ignorant is a choice. Whether they know it or not, their voice (and silence) is being heard.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @09:43PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @09:43PM (#1240829)

          Runaway? Our cheerleader of intentional ignorance? A moron of global unawareness? Complaining about the ignorance of the masses? Hilarious!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @11:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @11:29PM (#1240868)

        Aren't you the one that voted for trump twice?? Then tried to lie and say you voted for kanye? Even your lie makes you somehow look more stupid.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Friday April 29 2022, @11:52PM (9 children)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday April 29 2022, @11:52PM (#1240880) Journal

        Sometimes, I think voting really should be mandatory. You MUST vote, and you MUST display some minimal familiarity with the issues, as well as the candidates. But, what a bag of worms to get such a law passed, then put into force!

        You know, I used to think so, too. A couple days ago a Soylentil in Australia said he'd rather pay the fine than vote this time. Apparently voting there is mandatory, something I never knew. Yet Australia built internment camps for people suspected of maybe perhaps having the coronavirus.

        In other words, mandatory voting still hasn't produced sane public policy in that country either.

        --
        Washington DC delenda est.
        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @12:50AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @12:50AM (#1240896)

          Missing option on all ballots:

          [x] No (None of the above)

          I mean, if you want people to show up, you have to offer them a choice

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @03:35AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @03:35AM (#1240923)

            Jo24!
            Jo24!
            Jo24!

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @05:56AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @05:56AM (#1240946)

              More like, "Never Again, Republicans". They go the way of the Whigs, only the Whigs did not go insane. But, you get the point, a party that loses the American people, is not longer a party. Republican party is dead, Tot, verkunft. Like that.

              • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Monday May 02 2022, @12:52AM

                by Mykl (1112) on Monday May 02 2022, @12:52AM (#1241338)

                However, due to your wonderful 2-party system, something needs to remain in place, even as a zombie.

                The reality is that undead-RNC will continue to shuffle the halls, and the vote will really be "Democrat vs Not Democrat". That's basically what's happening today - nobody is really voting FOR the Republican's platform, because they don't actually have one. People are either voting for the Dems, or voting to get rid of the Dems (and accept whatever else takes their place).

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @02:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @02:05AM (#1240904)

          These sentences

          Apparently voting there is mandatory, something I never knew. Yet Australia built internment camps for people suspected of maybe perhaps having the coronavirus.

          contradict this sentence

          In other words, mandatory voting still hasn't produced sane public policy in that country either.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by lentilla on Saturday April 30 2022, @04:54AM (3 children)

          by lentilla (1770) on Saturday April 30 2022, @04:54AM (#1240934)

          Yes, voting in Australia is mandatory. Every adult has to turn up every couple of years and post a ballot - it's very easy, and a tiny price to pay for living in a functional democracy.

          Should one really not want to specify a choice, you simply take the ballot paper, fold it in half and post the empty form in the ballot box. (This is called an informal vote [aec.gov.au] but only accounts for four or five percent of the votes cast.)

          For those interested, here is how the process works in Australia:

          Voting day rolls around - it is always on a Saturday. At some point during the day you walk up to the local poling place (invariably a local school or hall). You wait in line for maybe ten minutes maximum, chat with the people next to you, and when your turn comes you walk up the person sitting at a desk with a big printed book and stack of sheets.

          The official asks your name and finds it in their big book. They cross-check your address. Then they ask "Have you voted earlier today?", to which you answer "No". Note: no identification required. You get the appropriate ballot papers and walk over to one of the cardboard booths, number the ballot paper with the supplied stubby pencil, fold the paper in half, and on the way out deposit your ballot in the box. Done.

          Polling locations close at 6pm (don't quote me on that) and the result of the vote is usually clear later the same evening. All done with paper and a bit of hard work on behalf of the election officials.

          (Yes, one can vote by post. It was reasonably rare prior to COVID.)

          Some rural folk might need to drive a couple of hours to a poling place - but no worry, it's Saturday, you probably had to go to town at some point, and poling day probably coincides with some kind of town fair.

          Rural or city, voting day always has somewhat of a party atmosphere. Outside of the COVID era, many of the poling places have community groups selling sausage sandwiches.

          What Australians do not see:

          1. Idiot employers refusing to let their employees vote. (I'm sure it happens but it would only take the barest of whispers and the Australian Electoral Commission would make that company sorry it had even thought this was a sensible idea.)
          2. Partisan behaviour in the poling place. You get mobbed by parties handing out "how to vote" cards outside but the moment you walk into the poling location everything is quiet. The poling officials have no outward affiliation. No posters, no flags.
          3. No guns. Everyone is safe and comfortable.
          4. No coercion. Sure, people might "buy" your vote or employers insist you vote a certain way, but after you drop your ballot in that box there is no way to tell which way you voted.
          5. No "hanging chads", no accusations of vote tampering (that can reasonably be taken seriously).
          6. No wasting an entire day waiting to vote.

          Gerrymandering is an issue, but that seems to be an issue the world over.

          The worst part is that we end up with a politician in charge. Democracy never quite seems to live up to its promise!

          In parting, I should also mention that Australia uses the Single Transferable Vote [wikipedia.org] system. The huge benefit (in comparison to First Past the Post [wikipedia.org]) is that you can afford to vote for the candidate you actually want. If they don't win, your vote isn't wasted, it gets applied to your next choice.

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @06:40PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @06:40PM (#1241038)

            "No guns. Everyone is safe and comfortable."

            What a stupid bitch. You're just a sitting duck, cowardly slave. Wait until the sand niggers you keep letting the Jews bring in start attacking at will.

            • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Monday May 02 2022, @12:56AM

              by Mykl (1112) on Monday May 02 2022, @12:56AM (#1241339)

              I don't know about you, but I come here for the high quality thoughtful posts and the intellectualism shown in reasoned debate.

          • (Score: 1) by loki on Monday May 02 2022, @02:23AM

            by loki (3649) on Monday May 02 2022, @02:23AM (#1241347)

            Compulsory voting helps democracy because it samples the entire population, not just the extreme fringes.

            Single transferable vote (ranking candidates) helps because your vote is never wasted. If your first ranked choice isn't going to win, your vote moves on to your second choice, then your third choice if necessary, etc, until someone wins. In Australia you have the choice to vote for a political party, or for the individual candidates separately, so if you like a party but not a certain member of that party, you can break up your ranking to place that person after other members of the same party, or even after members of other parties. So you can rank parties, or rank individuals separately.

            In the last decade in Australia, the removal of party preference backroom deals also has reduced confusion among voters. Before 2013, you couldn't tell if a vote for a certain party could be redirected to some other party if your chosen first party didn't win a seat. There were backroom preference deals that allowed parties to direct the flow of votes a certain way, and you had to look up the official election website to see what deals were in place. I remember making a spreadsheet that year to see which parties were preferencing which other parties. But that practice was abolished after the 2013 election, so your votes can only be redirected if you explicitly write further preferences such as second, third, fourth. So now, the only preference deals are what's shown on the party-specific how-to-vote cards the marketing people hand out on voting day outside the voting venues.

            Lastly, polls close at 6pm, and we use pencil and paper, and get a result almost always on the night. We have confidence in that method because we don't use voting machines which could be tampered with remotely or via hacking.

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @12:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @12:54AM (#1240897)

        "The electorate is so poorly informed". Yet you put so much stock in polls that you haven't examined for accuracy. You're just an ignorant bigot.

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday April 29 2022, @09:11PM (6 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday April 29 2022, @09:11PM (#1240822) Journal

    The ((ADL)) has some plans for these new lawsuit powers!

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @10:25PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 29 2022, @10:25PM (#1240853)

      I suspect the ADL jewbags will have about as much 'success' convincing others as you jews around here are evading disproving points Apk put out here https://soylentnews.org/politics/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=48988&page=1&cid=1240840#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] and here https://soylentnews.org/politics/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=48988&page=1&cid=1240838#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] that are proving all you and your kind in jews can do: HIDE FACTS you can't defeat. That does not work. No small wonder Musk had jews and their easily fooled undereducated facebook news minions and bots of course terrified at his ownership of Twitter. No more bullshit from jews. The world is sick of that.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @04:48PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @04:48PM (#1241016)

        Poor insane apk. So filled with hate. Wonder what really has them so angry? Probably some minority smarter and nicer than they are got the job when he was fired for /gestures_broadly

        Being a nazi sure doesn't help either, the world is sick of nazis.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @06:44PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @06:44PM (#1241039)

          America is a White nation. Non-whites are not "minorities", they are extra-nationals, some of which are invaders. "Nazi" is an anti-white jew slur. All you race traitors are going to find out one way or another.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday April 30 2022, @08:58PM

            by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday April 30 2022, @08:58PM (#1241076)

            Fuck you.
            America was invaded by Europeans.
            The Native Peoples of this land were not white.
            You lie.

            Oh yeah, I encourage you to go for it and try to make us 'find out.' The sooner you do, the sooner your stain is removed from the gene pool.

            --
            Alex Jones lawyer inspires new TV series: CSI Moron Division.
        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @07:19PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @07:19PM (#1241045)

          Poor little jew coward who lurks around behind unidentifiable anonymous like the hook nosed vulture beak freak you are. So filled with cowardice. What has jews angry is that NOBODY wants you around or does not you being banned from 110 countries to date not prove that much?

          Projecting how you live on welfare and are a loser losing jobs was classic from you. Good luck getting or keeping a job, loser. I do just fine that way and run my own business for decades now successfully.

          The world has an AshkeNAZI infestation and their TALMUD shows you how megalomaniacal and twisted they are, Racist to the core.

          Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

          Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

          Yebamoth 98a: "All children of the goy are animals"

          Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

          Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

          Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

          Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

          Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

          Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

          Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath KALNIDRA (what they recite on entry into day of atonement that for the next 12 months no oath they make to others MATTERS & can be broken) when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

          Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

          Zohar, Toldoth Noah 63b & Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

          Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

          Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

          Hadarine 20, B & Schulchan Aruch, Choszem Hamiszpat 34B & Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

          Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

          Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

          Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

          Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

          Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

          Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it."

          Schulchan Aruch, Johre Deah, 122: "A Jew is forbidden to drink from a glass of wine which a Gentile has touched, because the touch has made the wine unclean."

          Nedarim 23b: "He who desires that none of his vows made during the year be valid, let him stand at the beginning of the year and declare, 'Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null'. His vows are then invalid."

          Yalhut 245c: "Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice" per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] (one HELL of an INFORMATIVE video that)

          Rosh Hashanah 17a: "Christians who reject the Talmud shall go to HELL and be punished there for all generations"

          (Like they said Jesus is in HELL boiling in SHIT (excrement) perhaps, per https://www.brighteon.com/83442414-4300-4360-9ade-b999d9e40ca5 [brighteon.com] & where JEWS literally say "We killed Yeshua and are PROUD of it"?)

          Gittin 57a: "Jesus (Jashua) is in HELL boiling in hot excrement"

          In the BRIGHTEON link above, they show Jesus as a MONKEY being pounded by a hammer with nails into a cross mocking him.

          Zohar, Vuyshiah 177b: "Jews may cheat Goys over a bill" etc.

          Mas. Shabbath 32b: "On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle"

          Baba Mazia 114b: "The Goyim are not humans. They are beasts"

          Choshem Ha'mishpat 425.50: "Everyone who sheds the blood of the NON-JEW (impious) is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God"

          Schulchan Oruch, Orach Chaim 14, 20, 32, 33, 39: "A Jew may do to an Non-JEWESS what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat"

          Avodah Zarah 36b: "They decreed connection with a heathen child that it should cause defilement by seminal omission so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit PEDERASTY with him. It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen (non jew) girl from the age of 3 + 1 day for inasmuich as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux. This is obvious"

          Avodah Zarah 37a: "R. Joseph said: Come and hear - a maiden aged 3 years and 1 day may be acquired in marriage by a coition (sex) and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her she becomes his"

          Midrasch Talpioth page 225 L: "The Jew is not permitted to consider the goyim as human beings"

          Mas Yevamoth 61b: "All JEWS will have a part in the future world The Goyim at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel DUMA and sent down to hell"

          APK

          P.S.=> EAT SHIT Synagogue of SATAN (those who say they are jews but are NOT per John in REVELATION)... apk

          • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @10:28PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2022, @10:28PM (#1241100)

            Hey, lots of people are helped by eating shit to get a healthier gut flora. Keep valid medical treatments out of your oven loving kiddie diddling grubby evil hands. Stop molesting kids you religious freaks!!