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posted by janrinok on Wednesday August 07, @07:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the good-luck-with-that dept.

Make Bitcoin great again - what Donald Trump's backing of crypto could mean for the industry

On July 27, the former US president and Republican nominee for the upcoming election, Donald Trump, headlined the biggest Bitcoin conference of the year in Nashville. In his speech, Trump claimed he will make the US the "crypto capital of the planet and the Bitcoin superpower of the world" if returned to the White House after November's election.

Bitcoin Price Tanks Hours After Trump Floats Using it as US Reserve Asset

Bitcoin prices plummeted after former President Donald Trump suggested that the cryptocurrency could be used to pay off the country's $35 trillion national debt.

Bitcoin dropped 12 percent in the past 24 hours and ether plunged by 21 percent in the same time period. The price of bitcoin has been dropping since Friday, and briefly dropped to below $50,000 on Monday. This was the first time it had dropped below these levels since February.

In recent weeks Trump has been attempting to position himself firmly as pro-crypto. Speaking at a bitcoin conference in Nashville, Tennessee on July 27, the Republican presidential candidate unveiled his plans to make the U.S. the "crypto capital of the planet" if he is elected for a second term.

He also spoke about the U.S. creating a "strategic national bitcoin reserve."


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Wednesday August 07, @10:32AM (3 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Wednesday August 07, @10:32AM (#1367548)
    For a reserve, I suppose Trump's advisors think this means they can somehow use their crypto holdings as a substitute for more tangible assets that the US holds in reserve and *can* sell off on the open markets to pay off the debt, or at least those parts of it where they see a tangible benefit somehow. You know, things like strategy oil reserves and the like which might be needed if the current tension in Middle East blows up into a serious conflict and global supply chains through Suez and around the Arabian peninsula are seriously disrupted again. There are two obvious problems with that; firstly, the value of the holdings will fluctuate like crazy, because that's what crypto does, and if it's pegged to the dollar as a reserve the the dollar will fluctuate with it -- goodbye Petro-dollar, helllooo Petro-Yuan, Petro-Euro, or whatever. Secondly, if you ever need to sell any of that reserve in volume, say to raise currency you can actually do anything with, the price will crash, just as it has done every time the German government has unloaded a few hundred million euros worth recently. I hate to think what the US dumping a few billion, or more, would do to the price - whatever the theoretic fiat value is, the actual trade-in value is likely to be double percentage points below that.

    This is certainly NOT Trump driving this. He referred to a "Staple Coin", then corrected himself after a quick squint at the teleprompter, when talking about something that's supposedly a key tenet of his plans for 2025 and beyond. Clearly a guy that understands all this perfectly! He (or, more likely, his advisors) are either having their strings pulled by the likes of Musk and the other Crypto Bros (in exchange for what?), or his campaign is in full-on panic mode and is desperately saying anything to try and grab a few more votes from whatever crowd he's lying to today. Given what happened in 2020, if that end up doing enough to get a popular vote majority but he still loses the Electoral College, I fear Elon might just get his civil war, only it'll be on the Western side of the Atlantic.
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday August 07, @07:25PM (2 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday August 07, @07:25PM (#1367626)

    >He (or, more likely, his advisors) are either having their strings pulled by the likes of Musk and the other Crypto Bros (in exchange for what?)

    Anybody who holds BTC loves people willing to pay current market price (or higher!) for BTC and hates anyone who would sell out for cash.

    In addition to Musk & Bros, there are lots of people (like my brother) who put in little chunks of a bit more than they could afford into BTC and other crypto, and they're HODLing because that's all they can do vs their ego which thought this was going to be their ticket to riches, but turned out to be another shit-pile of an investment.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by zocalo on Wednesday August 07, @08:39PM (1 child)

      by zocalo (302) on Wednesday August 07, @08:39PM (#1367646)

      Anybody who holds BTC loves people willing to pay current market price (or higher!) for BTC and hates anyone who would sell out for cash.

      Sure. Exactly the kind of cultish mindset that drove Ponzi's and all the other MLM schemes; once you check in to Hotel Crypto, you'd better not try and leave because you'll let somebody else down, namely those higher up the pyramid that actually stand to make something out of the scam.

      If you're not a whale and have been HODLing something other than shitcoins for a while, then you've had multiple chances to completely cash out while above water of late. I cashed out all the BTC I mined out of curiosity in the relatively early days and mostly forgot about some time ago and never looked back; even then, the larger exchanges had absolutely no problems with quite large (6-7 figure) outflows back to fiat if you did your homework and were prepared to wait a little for the necessary transactions to complete. You also need to accept the possibility it might go much higher still in the future, of course; during the recent peak that exceeded three times higher in my case, and I've still got no regrets about getting out when I did.

      Frankly, at this point, if someone is playing in the crypto casino with money they can really afford to lose, then they either recently bought in because of Trump/Musk/whatever without doing any due diligence first (it's not exactly hard to find out it's about as high-risk gamble as you can get, FFS), or have been HODLing a while and are well and truly on the "to the moon!" greed hook since they could easily have cashed out in the black with the very recent highs, either all in one go or piecemeal, potentially even completely covering their initial outlay while still leaving some tokens just in case if they'd been HODLing long enough. For better or worse, whatever happens to their finances now is entirely on them.

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      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday August 07, @10:21PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Wednesday August 07, @10:21PM (#1367656)

        Back in the day I accepted a Bitcoin (then valued at $4) as payment for a $5 thing. When it hit $220, about two years later, I sold.

        Best ROI I ever got on any investment. Of course: woulda, could, shoulda, but I didn't have a spare $4000 lying around at the time.

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