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What kind of CPU do you primarily use when browsing SoylentNews?

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ARM
  10% 29 votes
Intel x86 (with Management Engine)
  47% 128 votes
AMD x86 (with Platform Security Processor)
  13% 36 votes
Pre-2008 Intel or Pre-2013 AMD (or any models without known backdoors)
  21% 58 votes
POWER or PowerPC
  1% 5 votes
RISC-V
0% 0 votes
MIPS or SPARC
  1% 3 votes
None of the above (comment your answer)
  4% 12 votes
271 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
  • Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
  • This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
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  • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Thursday January 10, @04:20AM (2 children)

    by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Thursday January 10, @04:20AM (#784465) Journal

    Didn't see the option for opensource enthusiast computer company neutered the Intel ME.

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 10, @02:29PM (26 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10, @02:29PM (#784495) Journal

    How about a poll like:

    Which glows the brightest when supplied with a sufficiently high voltage and current:
    * Light bulbs
    * Vacuum tubes
    * Crystal oscillators
    * Transistors
    * Integrated Circuits
    * EEPROMs
    * LEDs
    * Other (Specify)

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Knowledge Troll on Thursday January 10, @05:28PM (3 children)

      by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Thursday January 10, @05:28PM (#784567) Journal

      with a sufficiently high voltage and current

      I think the best way to pull this off would be to vaporize the component and use that ion channel to start an arc and just go with an old fashioned arc lamp using the LED as a sacrificial part to start it. Lots of light, current and voltage.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by DannyB on Thursday January 10, @07:20PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10, @07:20PM (#784620) Journal

        All LEDs can be light emitting, at least once.

        Then we move on to light emitting resistors. Especially the 15 ohm 1/4 watt variety. Ah, brown, green, black.

        After preliminary research in the area of light emitting resistors, the principle investigator's wife said that further experiments in the field of light emitting resistors must be moved to the garage.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 10, @07:22PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10, @07:22PM (#784621) Journal

          Ugh, I meant all diodes can be light emitting, at least once.

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        • (Score: 2) by Knowledge Troll on Thursday January 10, @08:10PM

          by Knowledge Troll (5948) on Thursday January 10, @08:10PM (#784648) Journal

          Ah yes that sounds like fun. As a teenager I did a lot of experiments with car batteries and light emitting strips of aluminum foil. Great stuff!

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday January 10, @07:42PM (5 children)

      Need to add Annoying Users to the list.

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      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 10, @08:51PM (1 child)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 10, @08:51PM (#784665) Journal

        That suggests that in addition to measuring brightness data must also be collected on which one makes the most noise or yells the loudest.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by bzipitidoo on Saturday January 12, @04:43AM (1 child)

        by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 12, @04:43AM (#785394) Journal

        You want to set the poll to make it a contest you have good odds of winning? ;)

        Well it won't work. Won't mention any names, but there's some stiff competition around here.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 30, @03:16PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 30, @03:16PM (#794070) Journal

        Future Poll Suggestion

        Which one shines the brightest when subjected to a sufficiently high voltage and current:
        * ARM
        * Intel x86 (with Management Engine)
        * AMD x86 (with Platform Security Processor)
        * Pre-2008 Intel or Pre-2013 AMD (or any models without known backdoors)
        * POWER or PowerPC
        * RISC-V
        * MIPS or SPARC
        * None of the above (comment your answer)

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by nitehawk214 on Thursday January 10, @09:59PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Thursday January 10, @09:59PM (#784687)

      High voltage and current would turn an LED into a DED, a Dark Emitting Diode.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11, @12:28AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11, @12:28AM (#784748)

      The brightest light source is a thermonuclear explosion.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by requerdanos on Friday January 11, @04:52PM (11 children)

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11, @04:52PM (#785111) Journal

      How about a poll like: Which glows the brightest when supplied with a sufficiently high voltage and current:

      Thanks for your suggestion! And thanks for subscribing and supporting Soylentnews.

      Polls that ask factual instead of opinion-based questions (i.e., Which city is the farthest from NYC? Buffalo, NY; Rochester, NY; Sydney, Australia, etc., or Which glows the brightest when electrified) tend to rate as "lame" and "pointless" and, while they reveal something about the general level of knowledge of the base of respondents, don't reveal much else.

      We already know that (a) almost everyone on the Internet is an idiot, and (b) almost everyone on this site is a genius; thus, such a poll is unlikely to serve any useful purpose.

      Thanks again for your interest!

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday January 11, @08:36PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11, @08:36PM (#785211) Journal

        It is (perhaps not) obviously intended to be funny. It might make a good April 1 poll.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by DECbot on Friday January 11, @09:39PM (6 children)

        by DECbot (832) on Friday January 11, @09:39PM (#785235) Journal

        Here's my suggestion for April 1st:
         
        What is your favorite type of fuse?

        1. Automotive Fuses (various amperages available)
        2. Glass & Ceramic Fuses (various amperages available)
        3. Penny Nail (100A)
        4. Copious Amounts of Aluminum Foil (250A Flex-Install)
        5. Ammunition (350A Audiovisual Auto-Alert)
        6. 8cm M12 Shoulder Bolt (1500A Slow-Blow)
        7. 11m Box Wrench (2000A Slow-Blow)
        8. Fuses are for the timid masses. I use the largest metallic object readily available and fitting into the fuse holder.
        9. Whatever the BOFH hands me.

        I realize this is one over the permitted 8 options, but I couldn't in good conscience merge 1 and 2. I'll let the editors do that.

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        • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Saturday January 12, @04:48AM (1 child)

          by bzipitidoo (4388) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 12, @04:48AM (#785397) Journal

          You forgot the "I don't use fuses you insensitive clod" option. Fry everything! Burn down the whole lab, melt the transformers and knock out the power to the entire neighborhood for a week.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday January 12, @05:02AM (2 children)

          Damn, I like that one. Dropping it in #editorial on IRC.

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          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 22, @02:53PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 22, @02:53PM (#790082)

            i'm upset that my favorite type of fuse, 'cannon', is not listed.

            with the write application to the cannonball delivery stack, one can learn a whole lot about compression and payload delivery and packet fragmentation! (pun intended--whoever heard of a useful read only ballistic device?)

            • (Score: 2) by RandomFactor on Sunday February 03, @02:35PM

              by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 03, @02:35PM (#795685)

              What do you have canon fuse for, Bert?

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday January 15, @02:50PM

          by c0lo (156) on Tuesday January 15, @02:50PM (#786906)

          Free Unix Spectrum Emulator [sourceforge.net]

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday January 30, @03:18PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 30, @03:18PM (#794072) Journal

        Future Poll Suggestion

        Which one shines the brightest when subjected to a sufficiently high voltage and current:
        * ARM
        * Intel x86 (with Management Engine)
        * AMD x86 (with Platform Security Processor)
        * Pre-2008 Intel or Pre-2013 AMD (or any models without known backdoors)
        * POWER or PowerPC
        * RISC-V
        * MIPS or SPARC
        * None of the above (comment your answer)

        this text added to make this post "more original" :-)

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        • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Monday February 04, @11:05PM (1 child)

          by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 04, @11:05PM (#796332) Journal

          That's actually pretty good.

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 05, @02:02PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 05, @02:02PM (#796659) Journal

            Also see the top level post which says:

            How about a poll like:

            Which glows the brightest when supplied with a sufficiently high voltage and current:
            * Light bulbs
            * Vacuum tubes
            * Crystal oscillators
            * Transistors
            * Integrated Circuits
            * EEPROMs
            * LEDs
            * Other (Specify)

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  • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday January 10, @02:57PM (6 children)

    by pTamok (3042) on Thursday January 10, @02:57PM (#784505)

    Shouldn't the first poll option be ARM (with TrustZone [arm.com])?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday January 10, @03:33PM (5 children)

      by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Thursday January 10, @03:33PM (#784518) Journal

      I don't know if there are ARM models in use without TrustZone. So I just didn't care.

      Really, I would love the ability to have more than 8 poll options, excessive as it may be.

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      • (Score: 1) by pTamok on Thursday January 10, @04:57PM

        by pTamok (3042) on Thursday January 10, @04:57PM (#784547)

        I'm pretty sure there are models in use without TrustZone as it is not available on the oldest ARM processors. However, I don't know which models do or do not implement it, and my search engine skills are failing to let me find out easily.

        As for more poll options - I would not object. On the other hand, it can be an engaging exercise to construct a poll that fits within the constraints. In any event, they are not exactly rigorous, but they do serve to generate interesting talking points.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday January 11, @02:17AM (2 children)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11, @02:17AM (#784803) Homepage

        Atom?

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14, @12:45PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14, @12:45PM (#786423)

        And in fact TrustZone is disabled on ANY ARM processor whose bootstrap doesn't use a signed kernel, last I checked.

        If the stage0 bootloader doesn't authenticate the stage1 bootloader/kernel as authentic to the vendor key then TrustZone is never initialized.

        This is because TrustZone is only truly used for device encryption and media/software company DRM, neither of which is considered trustworthy if the end user has control of it. Bugs in it that allow 3rd parties to exploit it are preferable to end user control, because the end user is the product and financial extraction target, not the customer.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11, @09:43AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 11, @09:43AM (#784963)

    An Apple IIgs to read Soylent via Contiki and an Uthernet II. Does that make me a masochist?

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday January 11, @03:49PM (1 child)

      No, that's well within the standard SN weirdness range.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday January 15, @02:52PM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday January 15, @02:52PM (#786907)

        Why can't be both?

    • (Score: 2) by requerdanos on Friday January 11, @04:54PM (1 child)

      by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 11, @04:54PM (#785115) Journal

      An Apple IIgs

      That's the one that makes the "boing"/"bonk" sound instead of a plain "beep", right?

      • (Score: 2) by Rich on Tuesday January 15, @05:32PM

        by Rich (945) on Tuesday January 15, @05:32PM (#786973) Journal

        An Apple IIgs

        That's the one that makes the "boing"/"bonk" sound instead of a plain "beep", right?

        With an Ensoniq DOC5503 on board that's the least you should expect.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday January 11, @08:57PM (4 children)

    by takyon (881) Subscriber Badge <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday January 11, @08:57PM (#785221) Journal

    You link them to these poll results and ask them about their vote.

    I would like to run a variation of this poll every year to see if the results change over time.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13, @05:18AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 13, @05:18AM (#785805)

      Problem is that if you want a decent computer these days it comes with crap on the CPU.
      Maybe in time better options will be available. For today, the ME can be neutered on some types.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 13, @07:45AM (2 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 13, @07:45AM (#785829) Journal

        Maybe in time better options will be available.

        I have my doubts. Witness the number of mobile devices sold with invasive spying applications. I suspect that it will become more and more difficult to find good options.

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        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14, @01:00PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 14, @01:00PM (#786425)

          Start with a 4(3.75-3 usable) gigabyte memory capable pentium motherboard. Include PCI, USB 1.1 (2.0 if it is out of patent), ISA. Ensure it emulates 8059 ps2 keyboard/mouse ports (it can internally run a usb stack and convert HID devices to these, but it must be separate from the actual usb stack/bus). iCE40 FPGAs have up to a theoretical 1066mb/s of throughput at 533@16 bit width. That should be enough to run 2-3 full speed PCI slots/busses, ISA, plus have an SDRAM memory controller attached (maybe even DDR, but SDRAM is out of patent now both dimms and bare SDRAM chips are still cheap enough to produce new parts.)

          With this hardware stack you will have a system capable of operating most software without mandatory SSE2/AVX/NX bit support, have enough ram to keep a modern multitasking OS running, and show there is demand for user controlled systems. If you want to get really badass, there is no reason 64 bit BAR support, IOMMU, or other features can't be added, so long as you adhere to the pre-i686 AT system expectations, and provide emulation modes for the expected devices of that era. Plus if you add 64 bit BAR support, with PCI to PCIe bridging you can begin supporting modern 64 bit only devices on your 32 bit system, leaving the way open for either a Super Socket 7 x86_64 chip, or even an fpga update of the system with protocol level compatibility for all modern system features, but over unpatented bus technology.

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 14, @01:58PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 14, @01:58PM (#786434) Journal

            Mmmmmm. I see "pentium" yada yada yada, uh-huh, alright, OK, then "super socket 7". Right there, you have me.

            I took a Super Socket 7, with an AMD 450 mobile, slightly overclocked it (I think I clocked to 515, can't remember for certain if that's the "stable" speed I settled on), provided a full gig of PC-150 memory, and installed WinXP on it. With careful tweaking, I could convince the less savvy user that he was running an Athlon class computer. You would never convince the tech savvy of that, but the machine was far more responsive, and seemingly faster than the new-at-the-time 1 ghz Athlon chips. Later, it held it's own against the Athlon XP chip, at some slightly higher CPU speed. By the time the Athlons reached 2 Ghz, I gave in and bought my own Athlon, and retired the Super Socket 7.

            If you could resurrect that kind of sweetness, I would certainly drive it!

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by SomeGuy on Tuesday January 15, @02:26PM (1 child)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Tuesday January 15, @02:26PM (#786892)

    Just in case anyone thinks PowerPC is obsolete or only the domain of IBM big iron, they might want to check out the Talos II: https://www.raptorcs.com/TALOSII/ [raptorcs.com] No back doors either.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @04:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @04:41PM (#787436)

      I ended up purchasing an AmigaOne X5000 [amigaonthelake.com] in between the failed crowdfunding of the original TALOS and the announcement of the TALOS II. It is an interesting system, but now with the cheaper options from Raptor it is hard to recommend. Even if you want to try out Amiga OS4 or MorphOS, G5 MacPros are considerably cheaper and likely more powerful (both computationally and wattage).

  • (Score: 2) by Rich on Tuesday January 15, @05:49PM

    by Rich (945) on Tuesday January 15, @05:49PM (#786978) Journal

    My two main machines are both 2009 models and have the last Core 2 Duo, "Penryn" in them. I guess they have all kinds of backdoors and unpatched exploits between ring -1 and the chipset, but I'm not sure if their old AMT units count as "proper" ME, so I didn't vote yet. That proto-ME stuff must have been there before the "pre-2008" that can be voted, I really don't know about the specifics.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @05:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @05:45AM (#787248)

    Cranial Container Contents

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @04:53PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 16, @04:53PM (#787437)

    Firefox is my CPU. It is a full virtual machine in all it's horrific glory. All hail the web overlord!

  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday January 24, @05:16AM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 24, @05:16AM (#791064) Homepage Journal

    I use my iPhone.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday January 25, @06:12PM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 25, @06:12PM (#791913) Homepage

    Intel 86 with disabled Management Engine

  • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Tuesday January 29, @08:56PM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Tuesday January 29, @08:56PM (#793733) Journal

    Kindle Fire 1st Gen. Texas Instruments Dual-core OMAP4 2x ARM Cortex-A9 @1.0GHz. Last nightly CyanogenMod.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by arslan on Tuesday January 29, @09:23PM (1 child)

    by arslan (3462) on Tuesday January 29, @09:23PM (#793753)

    I use the Cloud to browse SN. What do I use to connect to the cloud? Blockchains of course. CPUs are for neanderthals.

  • (Score: 1) by effbee on Monday February 04, @11:52PM

    by effbee (902) on Monday February 04, @11:52PM (#796359)

    Kaby Lake i5 with BIOS modded by me_cleaner, so ME is turned off.

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