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Coming into the new year, I expect 2021 to be...

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categorically better than 2020, as specified below.
  6% 9 votes
generally better than 2020.
  28% 41 votes
about the same as 2020.
  33% 49 votes
generally worse than 2020.
  16% 24 votes
categorically worse than 2020, as specified below.
  11% 17 votes
I don't use the Gregorian calendar, you insensitive clod!
  4% 6 votes
146 total votes.
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Tuesday December 29, @09:33PM (10 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday December 29, @09:33PM (#1092631) Journal

    For one, the general population realizes that antimaskers and covid skeptics are full of shit, and there are more calls for heavier fines and jail time. One private party here got over $400,000 in fines. Hundreds of people getting multiple $1,500 fines. It's like when seatbelt laws were first introduced. People only started obeying when the "education period " Andes and fines kicked in.

    Trump is a goner. Fun to watch him twistvin the wind.

    We have multiple vaccines. Vaccine skepticism means I'll get mine faster because some of those ahead of me will refuse. Silver lining time. Unfortunately I have friends who are totally anti-vaxxers. That's the dark cloud. A couple of annoying people in the neighbourhood have died from covid. That made others take it more seriously. Again, silver lining around a dark cloud. Personally, their annoying behaviour didn't bother me, but I know it got to some people, who probably could use a lesson in patience.

    The economy is recovering here quicker than expected, despite the latest lockdown. People are working from home, businesses are adapting (like they had a choice ???), and most people are ignoring the governments ever-changing policies and sticking with the basics we know work - distancing, masks, washing hands. The crybabies who complain about "muh rights" are mostly being made fun of, except in the prairies, where their stupidity has led to the virus being totally out of control and calls for people to stop being shits.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by FatPhil on Wednesday December 30, @01:52AM (8 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Wednesday December 30, @01:52AM (#1092711) Homepage
      I don't share all your optimism.

      At least here in Europe, I see the don't-care-about-anyone-else-but-me faction extending their don't-care-about-anyone-else-but-me behaviour as they get bored of having to pretend to care about anyone else but themselves. And it only takes a small minority to spoil things for everyone. (2 stories on BBC News presently are Brits being dicks in .ch, and Brits being dicks in .au, when I left that country decades back, I left it for a reason, and that reason is being reified presently.)

      Simply on the "vaccine" side, sure, we're moving forward, but it's hard not to see the current rollouts as anything more than the testing that still need to be done. Thank Turing we have multiple candidates, and more on the way, as it would be freakish if they were all to be perfect. So, yeah, we will see some unexpected side-effects of the vacine, complications with unexpected interaction, it's not a magic "stop" button. And there's still the spectre of the long term effects of the disease that no vaccine can undo. We simply don't know yet. May the studies be done scientifically, so that we can get the highest SNR possible, and make progress fastest.

      Econony - well, each country has a different story to tell. We're one of the poor men of Europe, but we punch above our weight, and our stats (e.g. no need for lockdowns yet) and fundamentals both look pretty strong. But that doesn't reassure me that the brewpub I'm a part owner of will be able to start turning a profit any time soon after we're allowed to open again. Our export market was damaged too, predictably, so income is at rock bottom. I have no idea if my life savings will slowly evaporate away if things don't pick up. I do live in a part of town where businesses appear and disappear with incredible rapidity, so I'm sure entrepreneurs will fill the gaps around me, but I'm not sure they'll turn a profit either, we're a tourism-dependent economy.

      Most scarily, what happens in Westpondia will affect everyone, worldwide. If Yellen persuades Biden that continuing to print money will solve problems, then more problems will arise. The big-business owners will cream billions in safe-haven assets off the bubbles that get further inflated by the fed, and the average folk will see their purchasing power, and any savings, absolutely annihilated. The late-20s/early-30s will be here again. It will be chaos. However, that might take several years, 2021 may avoid the worst.

      But I ain't a negative nancy, I went for "about the same".
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      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Wednesday December 30, @03:19AM (7 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Wednesday December 30, @03:19AM (#1092741) Journal
        All we can do is help ourselves and each other and hope for the best.

        After I made my post, I got word from one of my sisters that the place I volunteer at was hit with covid. I wasn't called because I had been off for 5 days before the first person felt sick, and a week before the test results come back. Dodged the bullet because I had herniated an old temporary colostomy from the 90s.

        How perversely lucky. Because I didn't feel lucky the last few weeks as it reduced.

        Anyway, one of my friends who works there tested positive, so I offered to let her stay here to isolate from her hubby and stepson if she felt it necessary. Two spare rooms, separate electric heating and windows in every room, it can be made comparatively safe.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Thursday December 31, @12:55AM (6 children)

          by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Thursday December 31, @12:55AM (#1093065) Homepage
          Indeed, now is a time for cooperation and support.

          One of the things that told me I had a really great friend here in this once-foreign country (I knew basically no-one here when I moved, it was rather tabula rasa) was when I messaged him something like "Oh, shit, I proper fucked up", and his instantanious reponse wasn't "what did you do?", or laddish jokes about whether my partner had found out about something, but simply "how can I help?". My wellbeing got a huge boost, no matter what troubles had beset me.
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          • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday December 31, @03:51AM (5 children)

            by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday December 31, @03:51AM (#1093106) Journal

            Hard times can be good times, as they provide people a chance to do good. At least that's what I keep saying.

            Then again, I'm probably full of shit thinking that. Maybe. Who knows? The world is f'ed up, news at 11.

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            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mrpg on Thursday December 31, @05:25AM (4 children)

              by mrpg (5708) <reversethis-{gro ... yos} {ta} {gprm}> on Thursday December 31, @05:25AM (#1093125) Homepage

              The good thing is that you find out who are your real friends and who are just acquaintances.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @08:48AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @08:48AM (#1093144)

                <sarcasm>Wait a minute. Y'all had real friends?</sarcasm>

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:39PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:39PM (#1093288)

                  "A friend is someone you need."

                  - Neil Diamond in Heartlight

                  Turn on your heartlight. And I'll call the next time I need anything from you.

              • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Friday January 01, @06:04AM (1 child)

                by DECbot (832) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 01, @06:04AM (#1093518) Journal

                Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate.
                - Murphy's Law

                Q: What do you call a friend that you can't get rid of no matter what you do?
                A: Family.

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                • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday January 13, @06:57PM

                  by Freeman (732) on Wednesday January 13, @06:57PM (#1099540) Journal

                  The same is true, if they weren't family to begin with.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04, @10:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04, @10:56PM (#1094721)

      Should not you have sobered already, however heavily you celebrated the New Year?

      However much you hate all those healthy people who were enjoying things you could not, the belief that reducing everyone to caged and muzzled work animals in perpetuity will go so smoothly as to not hit you at least in the wallet, is too deluded even for you.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @02:21AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @02:21AM (#1092721)

    Covid will still be around screwing things up and Biden will probably launch the US-Iran war.
    A lot of the fallout from this shit year is still going to be flying off the rotary impellor.
    Crazy anti-Biden righties* will replace the crazy anti-Trump lefties, so not much change there. More screaming, less crying. Meh.

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    * interesting - the spellchecker is fine with "lefties" but objects to "righties".

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @05:30AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @05:30AM (#1092770)

      Biden will probably launch the US-Iran war

      It'll apparently be Obama's third term, and he loves Iran but hates Israel. Harris will fall in line. Biden will fall and break his hip.

      I'd be more concerned about the ever-rising flood of jobs to China, thus finishing-off the middle class, faster than CA and NY could do it. Buy American... at least if you can find anything.

      I don't have a lot, and I don't have a lot of greed, either. Sometimes you have to stand back and look at your place in the universe... but first start in your own neighborhood.

      • (Score: -1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:11PM (#1093272)

        You say that like an Obama third term might somehow magically be a good thing, even though his first two were disasters - even he admitted his own H1N1 disaster, when he put Sleepy Joe in charge of telling everybody not to worry about it. Imagine how Joe would handle something like this Chinese virus! If the Supreme Court doesn't wake up soon, 2021 will be an absolute Hilaria-sized bust.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday December 30, @02:06PM

      by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Wednesday December 30, @02:06PM (#1092833) Homepage
      * interesting - the spellchecker is fine with "lefties" but objects to "righties".

      Language change is slow, and the the factions that need to be patronised (it is a description that diminishes them, rather than presenting them as something to revere or fear) have indeed been around for vastly different lengths of time. Sad pathetic righties are relatively recent, in all the countries I have any experience with, and I remember loony-lefties from the UK back in Thatcher's time, so that's over 3 decades head start.

      Of course, describing them in patronising terms doesn't mean that they aren't potentially dangerous, it's just that sometimes othering righties as jack-booted nazis actually encourages them! You do have to chose how you other outgroups carefully depending on context. I mean, you'd hate to be the one carrying the banner that says "they're lazy and milk our welfare system" when the rest of the mob is carrying "they's tekkin our jurbs" ones, wouldn't you?
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @09:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @09:33PM (#1092984)

      Biden will probably launch the US-Iran war.

      More likely the US-Iran-Syria-Russia-Turkey-Iraq war. Establishment Joe has his marching orders. China will be virtually unscathed by the conflict, so they are in better condition than ever to declare themselves a Supah Powah!!

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @08:53AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @08:53AM (#1093145)

      Probably because "lefty" to refer to left-handed people has been used more often and for longer than "righty" has been used to refer to right-handed people.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by DECbot on Friday January 01, @06:11AM (4 children)

        by DECbot (832) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 01, @06:11AM (#1093520) Journal

        I refuse to acknowledge "righty as a word unless its natural counterpart "wrongy" is included too. "Lefty" is obviously the unnatural counterpart as left-handedness is so unnatural.

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday January 05, @06:34AM (1 child)

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05, @06:34AM (#1094864) Journal

          I refuse to acknowledge "righty as a word unless its natural counterpart...

          You forgot "bendy" (opposite of right = straight) , "skewy/leany" (opposite of right = upright) and "oppressy" (the opposite of right = a specific freedom).

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          • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Tuesday January 05, @06:55AM

            by DECbot (832) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05, @06:55AM (#1094867) Journal

            I like the sound of "oppressy." It would be entertaining to hear the news actors use it in their reporting.

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        • (Score: 2) by meisterister on Sunday January 10, @03:03AM (1 child)

          by meisterister (949) on Sunday January 10, @03:03AM (#1097772) Journal

          Then allow us to use the newspeak constructions "unlefty", "doubleunlefty", or "doubleplusunlefty" to clarify this egregious fault in language!

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    • (Score: 1) by Ingar on Wednesday January 06, @12:34PM

      by Ingar (801) on Wednesday January 06, @12:34PM (#1095584) Homepage

      Categorically worse than 2020, that way I can be pleasantly surprised if something nice happens.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @06:32AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30, @06:32AM (#1092789)

    we're in a chaotic state, where tiny variations in input lead to huge changes in overall behavior.
    Trump got seventy million people to vote for him.
    Boris literally considered that saving face was more important than actually keeping the UK in a reasonably functional state, and forced negotiations to last until the very last minute --- when in fact the so called "treaty" is a mishmash of nonsense (see https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55475433). [bbc.com]

    why do you ask this question?
    the only possible consequence would be for people's answers to turn into self-fulfilling prophecies, because otherwise nobody can predict what will happen.
    I am of the opinion that the world is very volatile at the moment, and I'd prefer that people take the time to think about their actions and their repercussions before doing anything.
    I am not smart enough to turn that into a prediction.

    • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday January 07, @02:33PM (5 children)

      by PiMuNu (3823) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07, @02:33PM (#1096452)

      Your BBC link is broken (404).

      > saving face was more important than actually keeping the UK in a reasonably functional state

      Are you saying that hard brexit would have been better?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07, @02:50PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07, @02:50PM (#1096455)

        Fast, hard change is always better. People adapt quickly when they have no choice. Drawing things out leads to confusion and doubt, and that's before anyone else tries to meddle.

        • (Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Thursday January 07, @07:13PM

          by PiMuNu (3823) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07, @07:13PM (#1096610)

          > Fast, hard change is always better.

          Look up "adiabatic".

          Economically, businesses have to adapt to new working practices, and that takes time (e.g. introduction of customs regulations). If that is not done, then they simply stop trading => bad news.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday January 07, @06:17PM (1 child)

        by Gaaark (41) on Thursday January 07, @06:17PM (#1096560) Journal

        Remove ). at end of link

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12, @04:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 12, @04:10PM (#1098903)

        no. I'm saying he should have agreed to a deal sooner. I believe he purposefully delayed the negociations so that even a bad deal would be seen as a positive.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 30, @09:51PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 30, @09:51PM (#1092991) Homepage Journal

    I expect moderate improvements because one or more of the vaccines may work against COVID.

    I expect a lot of stuff to get worse though, because Establishment Joe.

    I really and truly hope that no one believes that on Jan 20, 2021, everything is magically going to get better. Ain't gonna be no rainbow stew, no sweet unicorn farts, no manna falling from the sky.

    Put on your magic reading glasses!
    https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=Anv1Cg_hDDM [www.youtube.com]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @11:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @11:30AM (#1093170)

      Ms Becky has nice legs.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Friday January 01, @08:41PM

      by krishnoid (1156) on Friday January 01, @08:41PM (#1093711)

      Don't forget the unicorn poop [youtu.be] dispenser!

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 06, @12:51AM (6 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 06, @12:51AM (#1095374) Journal

      Ain't gonna be no President Trump. That makes everything lots better!

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 06, @01:12AM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 06, @01:12AM (#1095384) Homepage Journal

        Odd. You prefer a fifty+ year professional conman, to the 4 year wonder. So, what happened to the Fusty who rants against the establishment? Did you smother him, and take over his computer?

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 06, @02:07AM (4 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 06, @02:07AM (#1095407) Journal

          It would be redundant to explain again my reasoning. Given we have the same levels of corruption between the two, nor are they in real opposition to war and austerity and the corrupt economy, I will take the more subtle one, for peace in the lofty tower. You already know I never expected anything more from this reelection cycle.

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          • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06, @08:36AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06, @08:36AM (#1095542)

            We do not "have the same levels of corruption between the two".

            We have a plausible explanation for Trump being rich. There is none for Biden. His legitimate pay is less than a FAANG software developer.

            We have it documented that Joe Biden gets a 50% cut when his unqualified crackhead son Hunter gets miraculous Chinese investments and do-nothing Ukranian employment. There is nothing similar with the Trump family.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 06, @12:23PM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 06, @12:23PM (#1095581) Homepage Journal

            I hope we both remember this post when Biden approves some adventuristic bullshit invasion in - Syria or wherever.

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            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 06, @03:45PM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 06, @03:45PM (#1095648) Journal

              It will confirm everything I said about him and the Party. Watch the excuses fly when the new senate is sworn in.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:01PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 31, @04:01PM (#1093266)

    2020 was pretty good for me, 2021 probably ok too. I don't go outside anyway, so masks aren't that annoying, work has been steady, savings keep growing. All my relatives that died from covid were old religious fanatics who never cared about it, so I'm not sad (I also only met them at funerals of other deceased zealots, and don't remember them because there's too many when everybody has 10+ kids). I'm predicting interventions in Africa, middle east might blow up, but it will probably stew for a while more. I expect police killings to continue, and protests as well, but they won't be in the national press. Stimulus will continue to be focused on enriching shareholders, so we might see some occupy-style protests, but that's probably 22/3. Trumpers will publicly demonstrate their stupidity a few times, but we regrettably probably won't see them wiped out in an attempted boogaloo. I'll keep daydreaming about it until Jan 20th passes uneventfully though.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @02:34AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @02:34AM (#1093471)

      I'm predicting interventions in Africa

      By chance, are you Chinese? [fmprc.gov.cn]

      middle east might blow up

      Middle East will become less important as the renewables make road into mainstream. Granted, this won't happen in 2021.
      Watch those cobalt reserves in Africa, though.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @01:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @01:10PM (#1093550)

        The Chinese interest in Africa is one reason I'm predicting that, but there's also a lot of unrest lately - Zimbabwe back into inflation, Sudan, Uganda, the Tigray situation. That unrest can easily become a pretext for US intervention.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @04:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 01, @04:18PM (#1093601)

      middle east might blow up

      A bold and daring prediction! They do that all the time; blowing up any hope of a peaceful society is their thing. That's why until we discovered oil there, we avoided the mysterious land of Arabian Nights like... the plague. Come to think of it, why don't we avoid China, now?

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by istartedi on Saturday January 02, @09:01PM

    by istartedi (123) on Saturday January 02, @09:01PM (#1094034) Journal

    If Covid could think, there would be rumors about a vaccine now. Many Covids would remark that their economy has never been better, they finally broke out of the pangolin and have gone global. They'd downplay the fear. As vaccination spread, many would simply refuse to mutate. The head Covid would deny that the vaccine even exists, and then when pressed to admit so would downplay the threat. Towards the end of 2021, most Covids will realize the vaccination is a threat but at least half of them will stubbornly refuse to mutate and won't bother to infect at GOP rallies and churches as the mutants advised. Mutants! What do they know? They can't tell us what to do. We're going to make Covid great again.

    So. I think 2021 will be better... for humans.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Monday January 04, @02:52PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 04, @02:52PM (#1094482) Journal

    Or maybe after Jan 20th.

    While fascism is at our very doorstep, I'll hold my breath until we see whether it comes in over the threshold before I decide if 2021 is going to be better or much worse than 2020.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Monday January 11, @03:31PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 11, @03:31PM (#1098325) Journal

      Now that it's after Jan 6th, I think the start of 2021 is far worse than 2020 or any of the last four years of Trump ever was.

      Mobs of violent rioters invading the capitol building. Murdering a capitol police officer. Stealing, damaging and desecrating. Online mobs making violent threats against the government and specific officials.

      And why?

      Because they don't like the outcome of a democratically held election!

      I thought that Democracy was that the people voted, and then that was the outcome. They seemed to like how it worked four years ago. Plenty of people were disappointed with the outcome four years ago, but did not go trying to overthrow the government in a murderous rampage.

      It is about time that major social media platforms realized the damage they are allowing to happen by their inaction and begin taking some action to police their content.

      I eagerly await following the litigation of Dominion Voting Systems vs Sidney Powell [courtlistener.com] for $1.3 Billion. Hopefully the successful outcome of this litigation is then used as evidence in other litigation by Dominion against other so-called "news" outlets that brazenly repeated these baseless lies. This partially addresses all of the false claims without a shred of evidence that the election was stolen. Even Republicans said this was the most secure election in history. It certainly was the most scrutinized. Republican judges, including some appointed by Trump, and Republican legislators and other officials have maintained that no major irregularities have occurred in this election. Every election has some minor irregularities, and it is good for those to come to light to help future elections.

      If these fascists don't like the outcome of Democracy, they they should go back to where they came from and leave our country alone.

      It was not the intent of our founding fathers for traitors to overthrow the government because they didn't like the outcome of democracy. They gave us the power of the ballot to vote. If you don't win, then maybe your actual message or candidate is the real crux of your problem. Voting is the mechanism they gave us to control our government.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Monday January 04, @03:12PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 04, @03:12PM (#1094490) Journal

    categorically better than 2020, as specified below.

    I'll go with "catastrophically" better than 2020.

    (catastrophically [google.com] more gooder than 2020.)

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  • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Tuesday January 05, @10:09AM

    by bradley13 (3053) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05, @10:09AM (#1094920) Homepage Journal

    Better, and not only on the Covid front.

    Covid is serious, no doubt, but both society and politicians made a mess of things. We all could have dealt with things better. In 2021, if nothing else, we have gained some experience. Plus, we hope, vaccines.

    The shutdowns have accelerated a lot of long-term trends, in particular, moving our lives ever more online. Lots of jobs were lost, but lots of other jobs were created. This has caused a lot of upheaval that should start settling out in 2021.

    And on a personal front: We built a house in 2020. The process was made a lot more difficult and expensive by a neighbor couple that kept filing complaints. Baseless and narcissistic complaints, sometimes approaching extortion - dealing with them was emotionally draining. They will undoubtedly continue in 2021, but the house is finished and we're living in it, so we can just quietly pay our lawyer to deal with them. They say the best revenge is living well, and that's what we intend to do in 2021.

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  • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday January 05, @05:46PM

    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05, @05:46PM (#1095071)

    Same shit, different year.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by GlennC on Tuesday January 05, @06:48PM (6 children)

    by GlennC (3656) on Tuesday January 05, @06:48PM (#1095105)

    To be honest, I expected it to begin before now.

    Tomorrow's Electoral College count, and the shitstorm surrounding it, will probably end up being what finally kicks it off.

    Oh, well....it's been a nice run while we had it.

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09, @06:21AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09, @06:21AM (#1097331)

      Is the timestamp right on the parent's post? My +1 Insightful mod doesn't even begin to do this justice.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 10, @01:08PM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 10, @01:08PM (#1097853)

      If this is Civil War 2.0, sign me up. I mean: typing on internet forums from home while 0.05% of the population volunteers to go hooligan on national landmarks.

      When it comes to "action" the people willing to go weird are always there, but apparently their numbers are still tiny.

      We've had big talk (like talk radio talk) for 30 years now, electing Trump was the biggest thing to come of it, and after 4 years of big talk in power now we've had "big action." If they all feel this strongly, I suggest we give them the state of North Dakota and let them have their way with it, I wouldn't mind granting D.C. and/or Puerto Rico statehood in exchange.

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      • (Score: 2) by GlennC on Tuesday January 12, @01:12AM (1 child)

        by GlennC (3656) on Tuesday January 12, @01:12AM (#1098702)

        Last week was only the preamble.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Tuesday January 12, @03:10AM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Tuesday January 12, @03:10AM (#1098736)

          Last week was only the preamble.

          I've heard threats to storm all 50 state capitols. I expect the actual number of state capitols with any significant "storming" action to be less than 10, and the most significant "storms" to involve less than 5000 hooligans. I also expect that the state capitols will defend themselves much more vigorously than the D.C. police did for the first 3 hours. Two or three "machine gun nests" firing rubber bullets would have completely repelled the hooligans in D.C. and I'm sure every governor in the nation has better than that at their disposal from the National Guard.

          If, by preamble, you mean we're going to hear butt-hurt conspiracy theory whining from ~50 million Americans for the next 2-3 years, yeah - I'm afraid that's a very real possibility.

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    • (Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday January 23, @06:56PM

      by Arik (4543) on Saturday January 23, @06:56PM (#1104248) Journal
      It'll actually be Civil War 1.0.

      The conflict commonly called our "Civil War" wasn't.

      Escaping from fake narratives isn't easy.
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  • (Score: 2) by shortscreen on Sunday January 10, @12:19PM

    by shortscreen (2252) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 10, @12:19PM (#1097845) Journal

    Also far too optimistic. Luckily, I was able to vote again and fix things up.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Sunday January 10, @01:04PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday January 10, @01:04PM (#1097852)

    The future is random, and our predictions match that - probably falling in the middle, with decreasing odds of being more better or more worse.

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  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Thursday January 14, @05:24AM

    by arslan (3462) on Thursday January 14, @05:24AM (#1099909)

    The world DID not end in 2020. At this point, the world still has a 50/50 chance to end in 2021.

    I expect for us down under it'll be worse. We bend over backwards happily to our American ally and now we're getting bent forcibly by the big bully in our greater region (in Asia). So all in all, we'll be fucked twice over as I don't expect Biden to continue picking that fight to keep that particular bully distracted enough - I'd expect his focus to be back to the middle east.

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