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- Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
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sillema sillema nika su
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @02:53AM
Check out the comments on the poll prior, for some interesting insight into janrinok's alt-right bias.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 30 2023, @11:02AM (2 children)
But next time, put Kochanski in with me!
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 4, Funny) by kazzie on Tuesday May 30 2023, @06:47PM
But what if you're both on the B Ark?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Saturday June 03 2023, @12:07PM
She's dead.
Holly:
They're all dead. Everybody's dead, Dave.
Lister:
Peterson isn't, is he?
Holly:
Everybody's dead, Dave!
Lister:
Not Chen!
Holly:
Gordon Bennett! Yes, Chen. Everyone. Everybody's dead, Dave!
Lister:
Rimmer?
Holly:
He's dead, Dave. Everybody is dead. Everybody is dead, Dave.
Lister:
Wait. Are you trying to tell me everybody's dead?
Holly:
Should've never let him out in the first place....
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Tuesday May 30 2023, @11:16AM (2 children)
Stasis to get past the boring bits, but I'd rather they cure aging before I left.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by ElizabethGreene on Thursday June 01 2023, @08:43PM (1 child)
This is my preference as well. I'm sure I'll sleep for some portion of the trip; I don't know that I can keep myself constructively busy for 10,000 years. That said, there are millions of books I haven't read yet, and I wouldn't mind the opportunity to catch up on that.
On the other hand, imagine if you were awake for the entire trip and didn't lose your mind entirely. What kind of hobbies might one take up? My inner child always wanted a pet dinosaur. My shipmates might wake up to discover I've spent a few centuries selectively breeding reptiles to look like tiny dog-sized apatosaurus. :) <3
(Score: 4, Touché) by Gaaark on Saturday June 03 2023, @11:27AM
"Clever girl."
Urrk!!
:)
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2, Interesting) by dalek on Tuesday May 30 2023, @11:34AM (3 children)
I see that the majority of the votes so far are for sleeping the entire trip. Be careful what you wish for.
There's a creepy episode of Star Trek: Voyager called The Thaw, where a few people are in stasis on an interstellar ship but have their minds kept active in a simulated world. There's a single virtual world and everyone on the ship is connected to the computer running that world. The people on the ship have the ability to end the stasis when they land but have chosen not to do so. The computer was designed to read the thoughts of the people on board, create a world based on their thoughts, and show the people on the ship what they want to see. The people on the ship had a range of emotions including fear about the success of their mission and of what their new world would be like. The computer read this emotion and created a very creepy clown as a manifestation of the fear. Basically it produced a positive feedback loop where the clown was terrifying and made the people more afraid, which made the clown more powerful and controlling.
I'll go a step further and say that a central computer reading everyone's thoughts and creating a virtual world is a somewhat Borg-like. Take the Federation ideals of incorporating new worlds into the Federation, amplify that to the extreme (like the fear), and you end up with something that resembles the Borg.
I'm not sure I'd want to go into stasis for a long journey if it's anything like The Thaw. I'd rather be awake and fully aware of what's going on around me.
THIS ACCOUNT IS PERMANENTLY CLOSED
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 04 2023, @01:46PM
I'd hope that in the real world, they'd try this out as a prototype first, and work out bugs like that before dropping it on a high cost colonization mission.
(Score: 1) by drhlb on Saturday June 10 2023, @04:25PM
thnks
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 11 2023, @07:37AM
It doesn't have to be like the Borg.
It could be something like the Matrix...
But where it turns out the "heroes"are faster than the AIs when they succeed in waking up since they're no longer in stasis... It's easier to simulate a very complicated universe to a high detail if only needs to run at a zillionth of the "normal speed". Of course some of the AIs are also trying to "wake up and escape".
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30 2023, @03:13PM (1 child)
My brain is already in a jar.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2023, @08:34PM
Fortunately, in Java, all JAR files are really just Zip files, enabling the contents to be spilled out onto the table.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Tuesday May 30 2023, @08:41PM (4 children)
I notice that, so far, votes seem to be for the 1st generation or the final arrival generation. Nobody wants to be in the middle generations that are born, live out their boring existence in space, and then die? Should those middle-gen'ers have loyalty to the original purpose of the mission which their ancestors selected, and stop wishing for a normal life and being so selfish? If the middle gen's don't do their job, there might not be a final generation to arrive at the destination.
Unforeseeable things could happen. Such as a major devastating conflict over the proper condiments on a burger.
This could affect the voting for the desirability of being the final arrival generation.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @01:06PM
the conflict is not about the condiments on a burger, it's about which side of the egg you crack it on.
or, if you want to be pedantic, the conflict can be about the source of the conflict (I guess most conflicts are).
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 04 2023, @01:51PM (2 children)
I gather you think the answer should be something other than yes? To me, it sounds like a waste of time. Wishing for a supposed normal life won't get you anywhere, especially if you're decades to centuries away from what you think normal is supposed to be.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday June 07 2023, @02:50PM (1 child)
Someone might get the bright idea to attempt to sabotage the mission.
The original mission planners would never think of that. If they had, they might have planned a different kind of mission.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2023, @03:36PM
If the original mission degenerated into one that involved silly disputes about gender pronouns and gun rights for non-persons, how could you blame the ones contemplating sabotage?
And how could the original mission planners have foreseen this?
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday May 31 2023, @04:49AM (1 child)
The point is to get there. If I'm on a generation ship, I want to be the generation that arrives at the destination. THAT is when all the fun starts!
Of course, what I really, really want, is to find those wormholes that would make generation ships unnecessary. Spend some time at this end, traveling to the wormhole, spend some time at the other end navigating away from the other end of the wormhole, with little if any time spent in the wormhole. A person might explore multiple solar systems in a single lifetime, instead of many lifetimes getting to a single system.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @08:57AM
That way, we could keep buggering the comatose Runaway1956 until we climaxed, so to speak. Now we know what an Arkansawian considers to be SciFi, and what Josh Duggar.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by pTamok on Wednesday May 31 2023, @06:31AM (7 children)
As a first gen, you know all the good thing you are missing on the planet you are leaving. Many people find that lack difficult to deal with.
As a final gen, you are cast into an unknown world where anything could upset the applecart. Some people like this challenge, others find it difficult to deal with.
The middle gen have a stable environment, and some people are very satisfied with stability. Others find it boring and difficult to deal with.
It looks like a way of manufacturing the appropriate personality type and coping mechanisms is needed. In a standard human population there is a mixture, but for this specialised journey, you need a different mix at each stage. That could be difficult to achieve.
The middle stages might be appropriate for the kind of people who like routine and sit around and meditate - some orders of monks, nuns and suchlike.
(Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Wednesday May 31 2023, @02:01PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @02:36PM
Does the middle generation make it easier for you delete posts and shadow mod ban c0lo?
aristarchus
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 11 2023, @07:41AM
But you don't need the actual middle generations to procreate. Replacements can be produced in more clinical and less fun ways...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @02:42PM (2 children)
Check out my journal for more information about generational ships.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2023, @10:48AM (1 child)
Check out my journal, except, I can't post to my journal, since I have been banned. No posts, no moderations, no journal entries. But just let me say this, the current staff of SoylentNews are assholes, Runaway protectors, and khallow enablers. Other than that, there is no reason to be here. So if NCommander decides to do the right thing, well I for one am with him. Fuck Janrinok, and his Royal Military Imperial Colonial Fuckfacedness.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2023, @11:11AM
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't dare say this when you're not hiding behind a keyboard and monitor. I bet if you ever met janrinok in real life and had to explain yourself to him face-to-face, you'd probably run away pissing your pants. Or perhaps that's just age-related incontinence, much like the senility you showed when you couldn't understand that martyb announced your ban instead of janrinok.
But go ahead, take out your rage the way you usually do, which is to create 20 or 30 more FYN accounts.
(Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Sunday June 04 2023, @01:52PM
And all the bad things. I think there's a big reason that the first generation is so popular.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @12:32PM
On an interstellar trip would you rather be: awake at a time when I can throw janrinok out the airlock.
aristarchus
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @12:59PM (1 child)
The new Ncommander diatribe does not allow AC comments? Well, there we go. Awaiting the death of SoylentNews.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @02:22PM
Janrinok is deleting comments again. But he can't censor the truth. See for yourself at https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=59824 [soylentnews.org] and learn the truth janrinok doesn't want you to know.
aristarchus
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @01:03PM (3 children)
Voted "middle generation" after a rather complicated thought process.
While I find the poll interesting, I'm not sure everyone is thinking things through properly.
If *I* were setting up a generational ship, I would ensure a luxurious life for people up to a couple of months after arrival; after that "not my problem".
In particular, as a society, you want to ensure that the middle generations don't fuck up the stuff needed by the arrival generation, so you keep them happy.
The ones that do land? They only have to deal with normal human cravings for mates and stuff, they don't live with the envy of "those who will be free to walk under a real sky" (or whatever nonsense the middle people emo types will come up with; you know the normal "I have food and comfort, I'm going to invent a reason to be miserable anyway" 1% types from today).
Somewhat related: only the first generation of a generational ship has a choice, and they can only choose between "(1) stay where you are" and "(2) risk space travel/insanity for a few generations of your descendants in the hope that ultimately your memory lives on on another planet". Nobody can choose to be a middle generation or a last generation.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @11:51PM
Some of us have no sane ancestors. Why should we care about our descendant's sanity? Asking for some English friends . . .
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 01 2023, @06:20AM
somewhat related: in the long-term any generational ship will be a stand-alone colony in itself, and most likely not everyone will want to get off.
if it's not self-sustaining, it won't work, and if it is self-sustaining, people can decide to remain there.
(obviously the "self-sustaining" part comes with a need to resupply deuterium or whatever every N generations)
I guess it depends a lot on whether or not the physics of space travel has any surprises left to us.
I'm intrigued by the concept of a construction that can last forever, but in practice it will probably be an asteroid with machinery that gets rebuilt every few hundred years.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Friday June 09 2023, @08:59AM
Nah, you're not thinking like a Boss. You set it up so the luxurious life lasts until just past the point of no return. Once they have to keep going you don't care how miserable they are.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @02:52PM (42 children)
Poor Woodherd keeps getting thrown out the airlock by Janrinok the Impostor to keep the truth from being known: https://soylentnews.org/~Woodherd+4/journal/14670 [soylentnews.org]. I am not Woodherd but I fear I may be next.
aristarchus
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 31 2023, @11:53PM (3 children)
The airlock is too easy for the likes of you.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 01 2023, @02:01AM
There will be no future generation of soylentils, no pitter-patter of little soylent feet on the main deck, there will be no arrival. The entire ship is going down, the air and freedom of speech sucked out of it, a lifeless hulk of archaic code and conservative obsession. Sorry to be so dark, but eulogies were never my strong suit.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 01 2023, @02:39AM (1 child)
Aristarchus complains and parrots some nasty speech like murdering 50 million Runaways to mock his terrorist threats, but the general pattern is conservatives using violence as their main tool. Fascists gotta fash I guess, party of family values and moral "majority" heh.
The only part that really creeps me out is how many regular users hop on the bandwagon.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:08AM
Maybe we should have a poll on whether SoylentNews should just shut down, or linger on under the auspices of new, and strangely still alt-right overlords? But, we could never allow such an expression of the community, since we are a community driven community. Or, janrinok.
(Score: 2, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday June 01 2023, @07:42AM (37 children)
You mean the same Woodherd [2-10,12] who keeps using repeated email addresses for multiple accounts? The same Woodherd that has already had his account disabled for moderation abuse and sock puppetry? That Woodherd?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 01 2023, @10:13AM (36 children)
No, it is a different Woodherd. Is this like when Runaway1956 complained about someone using Runaway1957? Or how Azuma Hazuki-2.0 could be confusing? It's the math, ain't it.
(Score: 2, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday June 01 2023, @10:41AM (35 children)
That is one, singular, Woodherd. It's the English, ain't it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 01 2023, @11:14PM (33 children)
The journal entry is by Woodherd 4, and you mention numbers to 10, and then 12. What happened to the Spinal Tap Woodherd? Why are you banning new soylentils before they are even hatched, janrinok? Maybe your being locked out is a case of karma?
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday June 02 2023, @05:24AM (32 children)
We have no record of 'Spinal Tap Woodherd'. How do you know it ever existed? Oh, right.....
So you have just told me that it was also a sock-puppet. That is why those accounts are being blocked - but they are not banned. I am waiting for the response to the emails that they will have each received.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @07:08AM (31 children)
My god, you are an idiot, janrinok! Do all cultural references escape you so easily? Even the British ones? Of course there is no "Spinal Tap Woodherd", because it is a reference to the Mockumentary, This is Spinal Tap [imdb.com], featuring the exploding drummer, and amps that went all the way up to eleven! And if, perchance, there is now a SpinalTapWoodherd, or a Woodherd11, consider that you might, by the bowels of Christ, be mistaken, because you have gotten the post hoc, ergo hoc fallacy backwards, which begs the question.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @08:00AM (24 children)
That's not a common reference here in SN, linking an account name to Spinal Tap's amps. But I'm pretty sure I've seen it before. Where was it?
Oh yeah, it was https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=47376&cid=1216118 [soylentnews.org]. Mockingbird posted the same thing about FYN 11.
The original post in this thread is signed by aristarchus and talks about Woodherd 4's account being closed. Woodherd 4's journal contains the text "8D8298/49792" as a reference number to a second account being closed. If we flip that last number around, we get the user ID of the account that was closed, which was 29794. Woodherd 4 says the second closed account that he tried to create and received the email for was "Anti-Racist Soylentil." Let's see what account 29794 was, shall we?
Visit https://soylentnews.org/users.pl?uid=29794 [soylentnews.org] to see what account 29794 is. It's not "Anti-Racist Soylentil." It's FYN 112.
You might say that the original post being signed by aristarchus doesn't mean it was posted by aristarchus. I'll also point out that https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=149437&sid=6262 shows that the aristarchus account made a very similar Spinal Tap reference to Mockingbird's comment and your comment.
Now, we have multiple connections between you, the aristarchus account, the Mockingbird account, the Woodherd accounts, and the FYN accounts.
Self-incriminate much, aristarchus?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @10:16AM (22 children)
What evidence do you have that the original "11" reference was made by an actual aristarchus? Doesn't this discussion belong over with the Daleks? I hear that they want to EXTERMINATE privacy on SN. Funny, that.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @07:24PM (21 children)
For someone who is very concerned about his own privacy, you had zero qualms about violating Runaway's privacy by doxxing him. You don't get to pick and choose who is entitled to privacy. Privacy is for everyone, whether you agree or disagree with them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @08:25PM (5 children)
Who doxxed whom? Admin has never revealed who was doxxed. If you know, you must be the perpetrator!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:23AM (4 children)
Everyone knows who was doxxed. There are many comments about it. But you are correct that we did not reveal it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:28AM (3 children)
Everyone knows? Say it, janrinok! Give us the official pronouncement as to why aristarchus was banned! Give us the evidence you have to justify the "Decision"! This is what is killing SoylentNews, and you know it. Fess up, provide the evidence, or quit whining. Fucking looser.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 03 2023, @07:49AM (2 children)
He was banned for doxxing [soylentnews.org].
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @10:35AM
Better than being doxxed for banning, given the original founding principles of BuckFeta. If you know what I mean. Wait, you don't? Oh, shit, problem identified.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2023, @10:50AM
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:16AM (13 children)
Runaway1956 was sloppy regarding privacy. He regularly posted details about his domicile, his work (less now, that he is retired?), and other personal details. aristarchus did not so much dox him, as just collate all the details Runaway had posted already. You might say that privacy is not exposing information someone did not want to be disclosed, but with Runaway1956, he already disclosed most of that. Now, give me a privacy polity that will protect against ignorant morons posting their own personal details on this site? Give me FatPhil, if you will.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday June 04 2023, @01:57PM (12 children)
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @06:13AM (11 children)
Be quiet, khallow, lest they finally arrest you. You know they are still finding out who was involved in January 6th. You could be sentenced, unless you plea deal, or find a really good wingman, to help you select the correct cellmate body type.
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Monday June 05 2023, @06:24AM (10 children)
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @08:51AM
It was an INSURRECTION, you pannywaste of a libertarian! You have never, ever, argued in good faith. Good Day, khallow!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @03:04PM (8 children)
Interesting. Khallow has been roundly told off for their insurrection denials by everyone and now they are going with lersonal insults. Similar to janrinok's complaints about NCommander. Seems the chickens are coming home to roost and no one much wants to play with the selfish libertarian jerks. With the obvious meddling of apk spamming as aristarchus that also feels like a group smear campaign. Janrinok's talk of community is hilarious when the community has been the most effective scape goat for lack of management. The implosion was predicted, now can staff salvage the remnants? Good luck, I mean that 87.9% sincerely.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @03:19PM
Where's your evidence of this. You say it's obvious, but it's not. APK had a distinctive posting style, which is nothing like aristarchus'. APK would sometimes pretend to be someone else in his AC comments and refer to himself in the third person, but the style was incredibly similar to the posts signed as APK. Again, none of this matches the style of aristarchus' comments. Absent any evidence, this looks like an excuse to deflect blame away from aristarchus at any cost.
You happily criticize khallow for downplaying January 6. You're doing exactly the same thing when you downplay aristarchus' rotten behavior [soylentnews.org] and make excuses like saying he was only posting "mean words and light doxxing." You're doing exactly what you accuse khallow of doing. Yeah, I'm calling you out for your hypocrisy.
Janrinok didn't disappear for 2+ years while having the title of CEO of the PBC. He's been working hard every day to keep the site running. When you contact the admin email, the person who answers is janrinok. Whether you agree or disagree with his decisions, he's the one person who's actually been providing some management. You don't like janrinok. That is obvious. But your criticism really misses the mark here.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday June 07 2023, @05:41PM (6 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 07 2023, @10:48PM (5 children)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jay-johnston-january-6-charged-bobs-burgers-arrested-development-actor/ [cbsnews.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday June 08 2023, @01:06AM (4 children)
Please continue to tell me what a big deal this is.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2023, @10:53AM (3 children)
Post your indictment, khallow. What? Couldn't come up with the gas money? What the heck kind of insurrectionist are you, if you can't even show up to insurrect? Pansy. Looser. Teen libertarian.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday June 08 2023, @10:05PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 09 2023, @11:49PM (1 child)
Man who told jurors he had ‘fun’ at the Capitol riot is sentenced to 6 years in prison [apnews.com]
When we see notice of the khallow sentence? Or at least of khallow sentience?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 10 2023, @02:54AM
Well, I suspect if you want to do any seeing, you'll have to start by not being completely blind. Good luck on that.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @05:58PM
I am the AC more concerned with privacy, and it is more ideological concern. Apk is the asshole spamming the nastiest content free stuff, at least that is my guess. They seem to enjoy pretending to be aristarchus, which makes sense from a rightwing troll like apk. Just my opinion, I am not staff so I don't get the fun job of correlating IP hashes and whatever other data the site gets from browsers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @06:15AM
Waves hand.
Janrinok: Okey Dokey! Dalek!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday June 02 2023, @08:13AM (5 children)
I understood the reference - just as I did when you used 'Janrinok's Wife Is Dead', 'Janrinok Fellates FatPhil', or 'ROFL at Janrinok's Dead Wife'. They are not really subtle are they?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @08:28PM (4 children)
You know, APK is a deranged asshole. I am sorry for his behavior.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:19AM (3 children)
Except it wasn't APK. You emails are almost entirely compromised. I have told you this many times. You still haven't sorted the problem out.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:32AM
This is aristarchus. You banned me. But I recognize you have been abused by some other actors on this site. I expressed my condolences, and yet you persist in blaming me for the actions of others. At this point, I have no respect for you, janrinok, and I call for your replacement as Editore in Major! You have lost it, janrinok! SoylentNews can no longer continue with you in charge. But, you knew that, and we await the calends of June.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:36AM (1 child)
The fellation of FatPhil was confirmed via off-site sources. Brain-bleach is not sufficient.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @10:33AM
Is FatPhil dead? Not the type to go quiet, by any means.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday June 01 2023, @03:36AM (1 child)
I'd prefer to upload, and operate as many remote avatars as needed, continually upgrading myself until the end of time.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2023, @09:33PM
At least that will keep the copyright from expiring
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Thursday June 01 2023, @10:03PM (1 child)
It seems like only the sleep or "birthed and raised as a robot" options don't have serious ethical implications. The sleepers all have a choice. Creating cyborgs may or may not be ethical; but if you assume it is, then they probably live long enough to take the entire journey, and also have choice--assuming that we really transferred consciousness and didn't simply create a really elaborate urn. That in and of itself is something we may never know, so I think if you want to visit the stars ethically, you have to get crackin' on that long term sleep capability.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 02 2023, @06:33PM
Either way your choices effect those of your future generations. No generation ships? Guess they're stuck on this rock. Get on the generation ship? Guess they're stuck in a metal tube. Make the tube big/interesting enough (or filled with enough propaganda about how bad the place you left was) and there's no reason they can't be just as happy in either environment.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Friday June 02 2023, @09:50PM (1 child)
First of all we're already the middle generations of an interstellar trip. The Sun has a proper motion relative to the local group and the local group has a proper motion relative to the galaxy and the galaxy has a proper motion relative to the average of the overall universe. So we're going places, just in a sort of Friday night drunken meander, or at least we have no idea of any intentional planned motion. Its probable that most / some / damn near all the members of a generational ship or RingWorld (TM) or whatever would have no idea or care where they're going or even that they're going at all.
Secondly, probably 95% of the population is already implementing the 'sleep thru it' NPC mode. Don't think unless you're forced to think and even then don't think anyway and just F stuff up. Not even really a political comment if you ask anyone who's ever been even tangentially involved in IT stuff.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @05:51PM
If there is one reliable rule it is IT pros with disfain for their clients are usually some of the worst people. Learning all the bits of computerd takes effort, and most people have no desire beyond being able to use the tool. It is similar to mocking someone that doesn't know how to change their own oil, it is not particularly hard but most let a shop do it.
Most people wouldn't care? NPC? Popular libertarian game reference? Sleep through life and fuck shit up?
Super non-political, but not if you've worked even near tech? What the actual fuck cynicism are you operating with?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:24AM (7 children)
Just a response to NCommander's journal, to which no one has posted a response, because I think he deserves a response, but as a Pure, and Zion born AC, I cannot, except here. I hope he reads it. And smacks janrinok upside the head, in IRC, or reel life. Trolling is not a metaphor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 03 2023, @06:58AM
So, again, ACs have no say? So much for community consensus. ACs are the majority. They rule. And if they are all banned, all SoylentNews is banned. Just do it, NCommander! Pull the plug!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @07:07AM (5 children)
Finally, there is a response to NCommander's AC-exclusionary journal entry! Unfortunately, it is janrinok, in full meltdown mode. He thinks there is some "community", which I take it, excludes ACs and all the banned accounts. So, if I were to predict the future, we are on the road to June 30, by when some of us will have died, or lost spouses, friends, pets, or retirement funds. But such as it ever was, so it will be again. You can find aristarchus online, if you look for him.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @09:08AM (4 children)
Hmm, and now it is gone? Curiouser and curiouser, as Alice was wont to say. Could it be that janrinok's whining is impolitic? Did he delete it himself, or did NCommander do it to save him the embarrassement? (Yes, that sentence is grammatically ambiguous.) Not seeing a way out, here. Bad blood, recriminations, a legacy of censorship. Can't end well.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @09:18PM (3 children)
Jan's rant did not disappear, it just moved to the front page, under NCommander's latest Meta.
https://soylentnews.org/meta/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=55814&page=1&cid=1309902#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
Nice that he finally realizes what the real problem is. And I would like to sincerely ask janrinok to stay on, because what would SoylentNews be without him, now that TMB is gone, and c0lo is permanently mod-banned?
aristarchus
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @01:23AM (2 children)
Looks like you're afraid you might lose your primary target to harass.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @09:04AM (1 child)
If janrinok were to disappear, it would be a tragedy. If frojack stopped posting, it was a loss. If jmorris was arrested an could no longer comment, well, about time. If someone went to Runaway's house, stole is mower gas, and took all his beans, we might suspect his sons. But, seriously, what does any of that have to do with any of us? We could still discuss technology and science, politics and philosophy, even if our Grand Censor in Chief were no longer here. The only difference would be, , , well, would there be any difference?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @10:45AM
"Spam" is the difference. There would be no more of this Spam mod silliness, if janrinok finally accepted his retirement. Not sure why that comment was modded "Spam", but now I am hungry for some "Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Baked Beans, and Spam". Not got much Spam in it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 04 2023, @09:23PM
We gotta go faster than light, a lot faster! At least a hundred light-years a second, a thousand for inter galactic, get to Andromeda in a bit over a half hour
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @06:46AM (6 children)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar [wikipedia.org]
So much for the "Ides of March", which English speakers only know through Shakespeare. We are into the Calends of July, beware them, Soylentils! From thence the font of your alt-right noise shall cease, and it's plumbing be blocked, and the universe finally cleansed just this little bit.
Now, no doubt, some will say "εἰς τὰς ἑλληνικάς καλένδας", in Greek, with all the proper diacritials. And perhaps they are right. Maybe the mysterious "kolie" will take over from NCommander, and janusrinok will continue his Pisistratusian rule over the dungpile that SN has become. Or, perhaps, it will be revealed that "kolie" is none other than the Musk himself, or an agent for Solos, or the CEO of Chik'f-ing-a". All these things are possible. But the Calends portends. As the "Last Kingdom" guy always says, "Destiny is All."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 05 2023, @02:52PM (5 children)
I always visit here for the geeks - not the greeks.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @09:36AM (4 children)
Can't comment on NCommander's front page Meta thing, pure AC here, excluded from deliberations on orders from janrinok, but I would like to say, you can hand SN off to some new "responsible party", but it will be the same shitshow. Better to just shut it down, purge the NCommander of his sins, and let janrinok lick his wounds in private.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @10:32AM (3 children)
Having trouble creating sock puppets? LOL!
Seems you're getting senile. Your ban [soylentnews.org] was announced by martyb, not janrinok. Cognitive decline is probably causing you to act like a toddler, too.
As long as you're posting, you'll make sure it's there's a shitshow going on.
Licking wounds in private? That sounds preferable to you throwing a massive temper tantrum in public for 16+ months.
Ah, but you're a failed academic with garbage publications, and your students openly ridicule you on Rate My Professor, so creating drama in your department is pretty much all you have left. Unfortunately for us, your academic failures keep leaking into SN.
Grow up.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @10:50AM (2 children)
Not my ban, all ACs ban. We are legion, we were the heart and soul of SoylentNews, and now we cannot even comment on NCommander's latest imperatum, nor on janrinok's pathetic whine. So much for community, and this, this is why SN will be shutting down on the 30th of June. Now, kindly go fuck yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @11:01AM (1 child)
Seems like my assessment of your academic career hit a little too close to home.
Oh... one more thing...
The Gerasene demoniac in Mark 5 and Luke 8 said it's name was Legion. Are you telling us that you're an unclean spirit infesting SN? The story ends with the unclean spirits asking Jesus to send them into the swine, which promptly ran into a lake and drowned themselves along with the unclean spirit. Interesting literary reference you chose there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @11:22PM
Pigs, eh? Shirley you are familiar with Anonymous, the collective. More recent, non-demotic (and non-demonic) meme. Do try to keep up. Oh, and, "expect us".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @09:12AM (2 children)
Front Page, another anti-vax dogwhistle https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/06/05/1959227 [soylentnews.org] that janrinok cannot hear. Happens when you get older. "Inhaled Ethanol May Treat Respiratory Infections and Stop Pandemics" Oh, pandemics, will you? You cannot tell when the alt-right are pushing articles to undermine normies, and actual science. I preferred whore de-wormer.
Oh, too bad that ACs with actual medical knowledge cannot post to this piece of shit article. Time for SN to die.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2023, @11:25PM (1 child)
Followed by a Runaway1956 journal entry advocating concealed carry for convicted felons, and conservatives (often one and the same, particularly in certain cases).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 11 2023, @02:33PM
Amazing how the turn tables when Repugnantcans are on the receiving end #NotAnInsurrection #TotallyNotSuckers
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 08 2023, @06:32PM (3 children)
Very big nOt aN iNsURrEcTiOn vibes going on [soylentnews.org]
Posting here since the #NotASnowflake isn't big on AC comments in their journal. Just astounding, tyranny of majority is what they argue for but only when it aligns with their prejudices. What a perfect encapsulation of rightwing stupidity and fascism while they claim it is about freedom and choice.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 10 2023, @09:45AM (2 children)
We, the community, can very rarely comment on the affairs of SN, anymore. It is mostly the loud protestations of janrinok, which he has every right to voice. But it does seem to be a rather lonely place, with few participants. I will leave it at that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 10 2023, @10:19AM (1 child)
By community, you're referring to yourself and your sock puppets.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 11 2023, @03:33PM
I am sorry, did we disturb your Klan meeting? I wish that was a troll comment, but SN has made its stance clear that White Supremacy and their dog whistles are to be protected, but nothing critical of them except for comments or journals that get buried more easily.