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Q: How was Thomas J. Watson buried?
A: 9 edge down.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by janrinok on Sunday October 01 2023, @01:34PM (48 children)
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @07:54AM (47 children)
And you call yourself a Soylentil! Shame, janrinok! Shame!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:14AM (46 children)
Spam mod of shame! Or is it the Shame of Spam modding? Really, there is no reason to even stop in, anymore.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:18AM (45 children)
What does janrinok hope to achieve with this endless stream of spam mods? Does it make him feel better, like he is doing something against the relentless tide of interrupting aristarchoi? Or is it only because no one can code in perl any more? I am at a loss to understand.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:58AM (44 children)
You have been abusing community members and spamming this site for over 4 years now. Your favourite targets are still here. The site has not closed down. You have not had your account reinstated. You now have to resort to lies to even think of anything original to accuse somebody of. We have 2 Perl programmers who are waiting for the new site to be established.
What do you hope to achieve? I am at a loss to understand.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @08:42AM (6 children)
Am I to take it that janrinok thinks he is addressing the dread soylentil aristarchus? How khallowesque.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:08PM (5 children)
The original Dread Soylentil Aristarchus has been retired for years, and is living quietly in Patagonia. You see, the name is the thing that inspires fear, and is all that is necessary.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @09:50AM (4 children)
Not to mention PDP12, but looks like the editors are now protecting George Santos, and rejecting all subs exposing his medancity! Oh, the Huge Manatees!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:08AM (3 children)
I now treat janrinok as if he were a Generative Artificial Intelligence, and am not convinced that this is wrong. He goes on, at great length, in ways that seem to make sense, but ultimately support white supremacists and incels. This is not healthy, nor rational, nor what the actual janrinok would intend. Perhaps he needs to do some more due diligence in the supervision of his AIs? Remember, a generative AI only predicts text, given a prompt, so actually it is only a glorified auto-correct. And we all know how accurate those are, and how accurate janrinok is, with his doxxing of the ACs.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:05AM (2 children)
Maybe not. Today in the Governor's meeting, janrinok confessed to exhaustion from re-writing the by-laws. No actual LLM AI would ever have such a problem. Hence, and I do mean hence, maybe janrinok is not. An AI, that is.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:38AM (1 child)
Maybe he will also tire of spam modding posts he suspects are aristarchian? One can only hope.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2023, @10:22AM
I see no evidence that he will. The spam mods keep coming fast and heavy, and If I did not browse at -1, I might never know? But then, a lot of comments would make no sense. Maybe they don't, anyway.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2023, @08:15AM (28 children)
Poor janrinok! So confused! He does not recognize the fruit of his own actions! Ain't karma a bitch!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2023, @09:48AM (26 children)
This comment needs more spam moderation. It should go all the way to eleven.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @08:18AM (25 children)
Still only one or two comments on the front page stories. Not long, now. Pay the $1, and shut the site down.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday October 16 2023, @09:38AM (24 children)
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:17AM (23 children)
Right now, 10/19/2023 8:06 UTC, I am looking at:
2, 5, 10, 1, 13, 17, 16, 12, 9, 15, 2, 5, 4, 26, 27
For all the front page. Mean is 10. 9333, Median is 10, and the Mode is a measly 2. Do your stats better, janrinok. SN is dying.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:54AM (22 children)
It is the mean that is more important - not the mode of a list that is so short it is the only number that features more than once. You ought to brush up on your statistics.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:03AM (20 children)
There would be more comments if you weren't banning all new users again. Just today, you've banned dozens of new users. Nobody is left to comment on the stories because you've banned everyone.
(Score: 4, Touché) by janrinok on Thursday October 19 2023, @10:19AM (19 children)
And you wonder why we will not let you back onto the front pages. Remember to take your medication and have a rest.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday October 19 2023, @06:23PM (1 child)
I'm very sorry, I laughed out loud at this. I'm a terrible person with a juvenile yet jaded sense of humor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:40AM
HamasLover1956 rings a bell. A very right-wing Pavlovian Rand Paul kind of bell.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:52AM (16 children)
I assume it's aristarchus creating those accounts, correct?
I suspect he thought up most of those names on the fly, just looking to attack people he doesn't like. However, one of them is a bit more interesting: Ralph JewHater Nader.
I've seen that username before. Ralph JewHater Nader [slashdot.org] was a very prolific troll account on Slashdot. It might be the most vile troll account in the history of Slashdot. It posted hundreds of comments, perhaps even thousands of them, pretty much all of which were blatantly antisemitic and racist. It routinely advocated for the genocide of Jews, and encouraged extreme cruelty. Here's a sample of some things that account posted, though I'll use asterisks to edit out slurs.
https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=27830&cid=2992374 [slashdot.org]:
https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=31587&cid=3397019 [slashdot.org]:
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28446&cid=3057786 [slashdot.org]:
They also apparently took over a Ralph JewLover Nader account and posted https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28678&cid=3082338 [slashdot.org]:
There are hundreds more comments like those, posted over the span of a year or two. Ralph JewHader Nader was a prolific troll account, repeatedly posting vile racist and antisemitic comments, and routinely supporting genocide.
That account name was not random, nor was it likely to be something that was invented on the spot. It was likely created because of the Slashdot account with the same name. I'm somewhat familiar with Ralph JewHader Nader's posting history on Slashdot, and it's one of the old troll accounts I actually remember, like cyborg_monkey, spork_testicle, and SCO$699FeeTroll. If aristarchus created a Ralph JewHader Nader account here, I'm sure he is aware of that account's history on Slashdot, and it says a lot about his character.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @09:30AM (14 children)
You assume incorrectly. You should stop. You are not very good at it.
aristarchus
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday October 20 2023, @12:05PM (13 children)
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:22AM (12 children)
No, he wasn't. Holy Crapola, janrinok! Do you knot realize how much we are aware of your erroneous identifications of ACs? We know who we are, evidently, you do not.
Alleged aristarchus. Possible apk. Could be separatrix. Or the late dalek. Or any of many enemies that janrinok has made for SoylentNews. Maybe a Frojack, or a Francis, or a Fusty.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:54AM (11 children)
Strange then that the submission that comes from the very same hashes as your comment which is signed as 'aristarchus'. And in the last 9 years or more nobody else has ever used those hashes to contact this site. What a coincidence.
Just as were several comments recently. All from the same hashes, all verified by connection to other posts that you have made at the same time where you actually claim to be 'aristarchus'. So it seems that you either are aristarchus or you are frequently claiming to be him. Are you suffering from a multiple personality disorder? You will be treated as 'aristarchus'.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:10AM (10 children)
Same hashes, hashes only janrinok can see, the hashes of the aristrarchus. This would be funny, if it did not indicate a serious mental illness. Your data cannot be correct, janrinok, because I know the hashes are not the same. What is wrong with you? Did you have a "incident"? Are you having an "episode"? Do we need to have someone do a wellness check on our dear janrinok, just to make sure he is alright?
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:31AM
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:36AM (8 children)
Almost all of the staff can see the hashes. Your latest hashes have only ever been used by Anti-Aristarchus on a single day in 2021. The coincidences just keep mounting don't they?
How do you know which hashes aristarchus is using? How could you possibly know....?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:57AM (4 children)
Hash, hash, hash. Is that all you got, old man? You are wrong! You are falsely identifying! You are censoring the wrong people! And, you are being a right dick about it. Well, go on then, run for Speaker of the Active Staff. I wish you well, ruling over the ruins of SoylentNews. You killed it. Your fault. I am not who you think I am.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:47AM (3 children)
You just signed your previous comment: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&commentsort=0&mode=threadtng&threshold=-1&page=1&cid=1329633#commentwra [soylentnews.org]p
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24 2023, @08:57PM (2 children)
You are aware that anyone can type a username in a comment? That his how we know that this one is by you!
.
janrinok
(Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Wednesday October 25 2023, @06:51AM (1 child)
Anyone trying to pass themselves off as the only banned person will be treated as the only banned person.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25 2023, @08:36AM
And anyone trying to pass themselves off as UID 52 ought to be treated the same!
janrinok
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:02AM (2 children)
Um, janrinok, are you not aware that IP addresses are, in many cases, dynamic? That means they can change, and are not a reliable identifier of an individual user. Use of a VPN make that even the more so, so that the coincidence that one AC has the same hash as some other AC, some years ago, does not remotely mean they are the same person. Do you understand how the internets works? It's not a bunch of trucks, with license plates, it is more like a series of tubes, and you never know where the dump is coming from. So, stop with the foolishness, janrinok. Give it up. I am aristarchus.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:20AM (1 child)
I understand that perfectly. But when IP addresses are only used by a single account in over 9 years then it is a fairly good indicator that they are being used by the same person, particularly when they have used that IP for several years as a named account. A VPN might be used by millions of people, but we are only interested in the ones who access this site. Most hashes are unique. Where they have been used by more than one identity it is clearly obvious to us.
But for the reasons that you state we DO NOT rely solely on IP addresses. There are other correlations that can be made that assist with identifying the user. For example, I can tie 5 different comments into the hashes that are associated with 5 separate comments made over a period of 16 minutes this morning. The chances of those comments coming from completely different users but all commenting in a short time period and all looking remarkably similar to those easily associated with a specific account are astronomically huge.
There are also additional clues such as :
In essence, your security sucks.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:53AM
Random IP assignments by VPNs are no basis for a system of government! Constant references to Monty Python's Holy Grail might be, however.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @08:28PM
I have it on very good confidential information that he is incorrect, and janrinok is lying again. Mendacious staff, active, destroying SN in order to save it.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:30AM
But the standard deviation of the current front page is 8.241590230277742. Still pretty wide, so the comments are not very deep. You do due numbers, don't you?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @09:23AM
Flyboy more than a brainiac. Spy more than a scientist. English more than human. Editor more than community member. It all makes sense, now.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @04:11PM (7 children)
Okay, I'm curious about something I hadn't seen before.
Some of the comments in this thread, including the one I'm replying to, do not have a Moderation dropdown box nor button available, tho I still have mod points.
At first I thought it only applied to posts already at -1 Spam, but then I noticed a couple of yours also with no mod dropdown available and no moderate button, as if I were out of points (I have three at the moment, or so it tells me).
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @06:33PM (6 children)
Can you tell me which comments you are missing the moderation drop down box please?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:05PM (2 children)
A lot.
Not missing from yours I'm now replying to.
Missing from every comment above
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329380#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(earlier I wound up reading the -1 because they were so funny, and that's where I noticed it missing)
and every comment below
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1326591#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
However from
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329378#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
to
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329384#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
all have mod boxes and buttons.
But I won't swear it's the same ones missing as earlier.
[SeaMonkey, JS disabled, read at 0 default, system set in stone for years.]
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:03PM (1 child)
Nobody else seems to have reported the problem and I can see them all, so it sounds as if it might be something specific to your account. I have checked your settings and there doesn't appear to be anything unusual about them. I will have to dig a bit deeper....
Please let me know if it repeats on other stories.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:56PM
Yeah, and I haven't changed anything here in ages.
Well, I'll keep an eye out... so far this is the only page where I've seen it, so I'm thinking it's specific to this discussion, and to the spate of you-know-who. Maybe something in the function of restricting comments to logged-in users?
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:08PM (2 children)
PS. Only missing on this page. Not seeing the problem on other random pages (just looked again).
Maybe Ari took them. :D
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:08PM (1 child)
Are you sure that you haven't already moderated on the comments that the option is missing? You can only moderate a comment once.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:53PM
Nope. After I moderate, the mod dropdown and button always remains visible. (Maybe it only disappears with JS active?)
If I try to moderate a comment a second time (having forgot I did already), it just reloads the page and nothing changes.
Previously, the only comments where I saw no mod boxen were my own.
I've never seen today's weirdness before.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday October 01 2023, @03:05PM (2 children)
MicroWorld BASIC DGOS on the MicroBee. Cutest computer logo ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee [wikipedia.org]
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:50PM (1 child)
Yes. I remember that logo but could not remember what it went with.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:12AM
I had the 128K version as a kid, which actually ran CP/M. Not sure if that was my first OS or whatever was running on my friend's Trash 80???
(Score: 3, Informative) by WizardFusion on Sunday October 01 2023, @06:09PM (1 child)
First ever machine I ever used was a BBC Micro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Sunday October 15 2023, @08:17AM
Likewise, but within a year or two I was using RISC OS machines at school.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:26PM (6 children)
My first computer was a Commodore 64, so my answer is the KERNAL.
(Score: 2) by looorg on Monday October 02 2023, @11:19AM (1 child)
I'll join the C64 party. It's not entirely true, but close enough. I think the first computer I ever used was some little kit machine, then it was a ZX80/81. But none of them where mine and I wouldn't say I used them very much, due to age and well they being kind of crap. The C64 was the first machine that was mine. But then as far as OS go it was nothing much. So perhaps I should have gone with the Amiga as that in some regard had more of an OS that we would still recognize as such today. For most I guess the C64 was just two lines of text and a ready prompt with a blinking cursor that they used to launch their games. It was to me to at the time, it just grew to so much more somewhat later.
(Score: 2) by istartedi on Monday October 02 2023, @11:57PM
I consider the C-64 the first machine I truly used also, even though I was briefly stuck with a TI 99/4A. It was a gift, not of my choosing. That locked down PoS set me back at least a year. There was no way to save programs without costly upgrades, and the low-level PEEK and POKE available on common 8-bit systems of the era was hidden from the user.
Appended to the end of comments you post. Max: 120 chars.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:10PM (1 child)
C= 128 for me
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:59PM
TRS-80 Basic
(Score: 2) by Mykl on Tuesday October 03 2023, @04:42AM
Very close between the C64 (at home) and Apple ][e (school) - I can't remember exactly which one came first in terms of using it beyond just launching games.
(Score: 1) by SvenErik on Wednesday October 04 2023, @02:09PM
The first one I used were also a Commodore 64 belonging to a friend. Remember buying all those thick, British computer magazines printed on the cheapest paper available with filled with the code for a lot of programs and simple games.
The next one was a Tiki 100 [wikipedia.org] in high school that used TIKO, a CP/M 2.2-compatible OS.
"Every demand is a prison, and wisdom is only free when it asks nothing." Sir Bertrand Russell
(Score: 3, Interesting) by KritonK on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:41PM (2 children)
CDC SCOPE [wikipedia.org] for the CDC 6000 [wikipedia.org] series.
Version? What version? Back then, I didn't know that OS versions (or OSs for that matter) were a thing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:26PM
Yep. The first computer I did actual work on was a CDC Cyber 175 [wikipedia.org] programming in Pascal at university.
A few years earlier, my dad had dragged me into work and let me futz with some IBM monstrosity (late 60's - text console based lunar lander game - don't touch anything else!)
First computer of my own was VIC-20.
(Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday October 14 2023, @01:28AM
Ah, thank you. I was fairly young in the 1970s, but had a friend who was a couple of years older who had a login to a large city's school system's main computer- CDC 7600. Yes, acoustical coupler. He taught me some BASIC, and there were a couple of games, and that's all I remember of that. I didn't remember the name of the OS, or whatever friend did to log in. Could the login have been a BASIC interpreter shell? It seems like it was, but again, it was so so long ago, and I was mostly looking over his shoulder.
I still have my first computer, if you can call it that, a KIM-1 [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @08:57PM (7 children)
Technically, the poll is incorrect. Neither MS-DOS nor Windows were Operating Systems. In fact, quite the opposite, Unoperating sysems, you might say.
(Score: 3, Touché) by bart9h on Monday October 02 2023, @12:29AM
Windows may be an unoperating system, but DOS is more like an operating nonsystem.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2023, @12:05PM (3 children)
DOS means "disk operating system", right? The various DOS programs did indeed operate the disks, so that you could access the data, and do things. Today, we still have DOS incorporated into the broader operating system, but it's still a "disk operating system". Whenever we decide to obsolete disks, and eliminate them, then we will no longer have a "disk operating system", but we will still have OSs.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:20AM (2 children)
Runaway's take on technology is always the Arkansasian low-rent trailer trash opinion. I mean, it is nice that his opinion is here, but, seriously, it does not count for much.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:14AM (1 child)
Why is this spam modded? It is not unsolicited commercial messaging. It is not repetitive. It is relevant and useful information. Wait, that is why?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:13AM
Runaway only can get a disk to operate in his double-wide. Sad, but true. And, he is a deplorable racist.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:11AM (1 child)
Telling, is it not, that there is no option for Linux, or Minux, or any Unix OS, in the choices? Do you think that maybe, this poll has corporate sponsors? Janrinok?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @07:58AM
Children, poseurs, and younglings! No one ever tested metal with Eniac? No? How about Multics? Would you like to play a game, in COBOL? And no option for the survivor, the winner, the technologically fit Operating system, before which all the others mentioned are mere toys of hobbyists? UNIX! This says an awful lot about the "active losers" of SoylentNews, if the comments here are all we can come up with! But evidently they are. Sad.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by stormreaver on Sunday October 01 2023, @10:32PM
RS-DOS on the CoCo 2, though calling RS-DOS an operating system is a stretch. OS-9 Level 2 was my first real operating system.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday October 02 2023, @07:40AM (1 child)
Scientifically pirated DOS/VSE OS on EC1040, a clone of IBM System/370 machine.
I think the CPU itself was EC1044, all fresh new TTL logic. It was an in-site replacement of Siemens 2000, ancient DTL logic.
That one was the very first machine I really punched my own program for, at age 14. So it does count as 'first use'.
PL/I code. Handed cards into feeder myself. It compiled and worked perfectly on a first run of a job.
Frankly, I wrote some programs for several other platforms even before, but did not managed to get access to them.
A word of advice: use pencil and paper to write your program first, before any editing. It helps you to think straight.
Do not fall into vicious edit/compile/try cycle. In any language. That's the main cause of broken software out there of current days.
Rust programming language offends both my Intelligence and my Spirit.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:13PM
I used pen and paper too, then discovered that when you're not into figuring algorithms out it's just quicker to try what works in the debugger then discovered perplexity.ai, which does not require login, and it's the ideal boilerplate/code examples generator. I'm told there are specialized tools for code refactoring and stuff.
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Monday October 02 2023, @08:18AM (1 child)
George 2 on an ICL1900e was the first machine that ran code written by me (written in Fortran4, Algo60, and PLAN (1900 assembler).
I did have prior contact with IBJOB on an IBM709 and later an IBM7090 through helping my mum, but that was mostly helping fix the JCL code.
Warning: Opening your mouth may invalidate your brain!
(Score: 2) by OrugTor on Thursday October 19 2023, @04:17PM
Technically, the Georges were (are?) not operating systems. IIRC George N ran as an application program. The operating system was the mysterious entity known as "the executive".
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2023, @12:00PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRSDOS [wikipedia.org]
I included the quote, because many will assume that TRSDOS was just MSDOS. When they switched to Tandy DOS, then it was just MSDOS.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by Ingar on Monday October 02 2023, @12:37PM (3 children)
MS-DOS 3.3. It came with a big fat manual and I learned a lot of English from it.
Understanding is a three-edged sword: your side, their side, and the truth.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:38AM
This explains much more than you intended it to. Sorry.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 03 2023, @06:08PM
The big fat manual. The first real, physical manual I ever possessed, was for MSDOS 5. I think it was 5.0, don't think there was a 5.1 or higher, but I can't remember. I'm pretty sure the manual is still around here somewhere, buried deep among stuff I haven't used for years.
I devoured that manual, then went back to discover all the cool stuff I had missed. Dear Wife blew her stack when the computer booted with a multi-config screen that she couldn't decipher. (Basically, a menu, where you chose to boot up for gamine, or general computing, with or without network support, how to configure memory, etc.)
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2) by number11 on Sunday October 15 2023, @07:09PM
CP/M came with a fat manual, too. I used to hand the book to people and challenge them to tell me what the first sentence (paragraph?) meant. It was pretty impenetrable. Unlike IBM's manuals, where you had to stop and think about every sentence, but there was heavily-distilled meaning, and not a character was wasted.
Fortunately, if your computer came with CP/M installed (as opposed to home brew), all you really needed was a cheat sheet of commands.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @01:32PM (1 child)
Before moving to MS-DOS I had an Apple ][e and used the OS on that. Not Mac/Lisa, before that I believe. 64k of RAM total. Fun times and learned a lot.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:20PM
The environment in the ROM of the ][e was applesoft basic, the actual DOS was DOS 3.x, most probably DOS 3.3. Later you could use ProDOS.
(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Monday October 02 2023, @01:43PM
On my trusty TRS-80. I think I also had CPM on it.
Bad decisions, great stories
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:44PM (8 children)
On the front page. After some other questionable stories this summary shows how sad this site has become.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @04:41PM (7 children)
QQ
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @06:51PM (6 children)
Found the woman hating incel!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:17PM (5 children)
We don't hate you. But we despised you even before you revealed that you're a female. More QQ for you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:42PM
thesaurus.com
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:25AM (3 children)
Wait, holey fuck, so to speak. There are only two women on SoylentNews, Elizabeth and Azuma. We all know this. And, we all treat our female solylentils with respect and courtesy. Who are you suggesting is a covert sockpuppet female? Runaway? No, more likely khallow. Oh, wait, VLM presents as someone in the closet, in the closet with chromas, but then, neither of them is female. Oh, this whole gender thing is too confusing. I am going to give it a rest.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @05:56PM (2 children)
I am pretty certain that there are more than two women on SN. I'll not identify those people whom I think are female, nor will I identify those of whom I'm nearly certain. If they wanted you to know, they would have told you. For that matter, if they wanted me to know for sure, they would have told me. Maybe you can put a survey in your journal, asking all females to identify themselves, and to give you enough information to doxx them?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:16AM (1 child)
Yes, two females, not counting Vanessa, and they are both fake. Your point is? Get thee back to Grinder!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2023, @07:46AM
You forgot Sam, and khallow (based on his preferred body type.)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:48PM (7 children)
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/10/02/1540214 [soylentnews.org]
AC comments were not turned off so they must scrap the story and re-publish to disable AC comments again. Sorry for your discussions teehee.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @07:43PM (6 children)
Noticed that one of the editors forgot about the AC ban. Runaway's early onset is actually right about on time, these days. Who would have thought that SN would become a hotbed of Alzheimer's and conservative woman hating! Operating systems? Pshaw! In my day, we had to hand crank the calculating machine, to get it started.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @09:18AM (5 children)
Even Runaway may have noticed that when he allows comments on his journal, he gets close to 200 comments, and when he does not, it is more like 6. I am sure janrinok notices the same thing about front page articles that do not allow AC comments. Choked off, SN is dying.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:17AM (4 children)
I love the smell of Truth being Spam-modded in the morning! It smells like, corruption and collapse.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @11:36AM (3 children)
Relevancy? What did the post have to do with the poll or question? Nothing? Go write it in your diary or blog.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:04PM (2 children)
Learn what words mean. Spam, off topic, troll, and flamebait are all very distinct options.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday October 08 2023, @11:22AM (1 child)
Repetitive, off-topic comments all forecasting the demise of the site that have been made for over 4 years now are Spam.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 08 2023, @07:27PM
Repetitive assertions that criticisms of piss-poor community management are spam, are spam. Mod accordingly.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Snospar on Monday October 02 2023, @04:25PM (1 child)
I can't be too exact here but I think it was something like SunOS 3.5 around 1988 as an undergraduate. We did some Forth programming as part of the Electrical Engineering course and even produced some graphical output on the new workstations.
Before that I coded BASIC and Z80 assembler on ZX81 and ZX Spectrum but they didn't really have an OS by today's standards. ZX Spectrum was (I think) 1983... 40 years ago. FFS I'm old.
Huge thanks to all the Soylent volunteers without whom this community (and this post) would not be possible.
(Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday October 14 2023, @11:17AM
I also started on ZX81 and ZX Spectrum. But what is an "OS by modern standards"? I voted "Other" because of it.
The first OS loaded from external media that I used was MS DOS, though (well, actually IBM PC DOS).
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday October 02 2023, @09:15PM (1 child)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_System_BASIC [wikipedia.org]
Machine operating system, I guess a form of DOS, but not MS-DOS.
From the article, it shows: 10s PRINT "*"
I remember the print function being "P." to save on memory space. The memory is going, but i'm pretty clear on that.....
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:41PM
My first computer was an Atari 800, it's not much of an OS, but I used the BASIC cartridge quite a bit - that included ability to load, run and save programs to/from cassette tape and floppy disk. Even when I did (minimal) assembly programming work on the machine, it was through the BASIC interpreter.
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:48AM (5 children)
There are only certain vertical oriented tubes around which True Soylentils can spin, these days. Admin, or "active staff", have not figured out how to ban ACs from journals, or polls. So this is the Last Best Place of Freeze Peaches on SoylentNews! It is true!
So, post your comments here, my lusty free speech booters! Have at it, even though we be well past "Talk Like A Pirate Day" (Sept. 19, Argh!). We can say how it is that SN has lost its way, been taken over by really wacko right-wing mother-foundlers! I, for one, do not welcome our new Alt-Right Overlords! They have done their best to silence the left, to ban arisarchus, to silence dalek and separatix, but this injustice will not stand, man! Runaway is about to be arrested, according to local news reports, cmn3240 had been indicted, chromas is pending sentencing, Ethanol_Fueled has been incarcerated. These bastards will not prevail on SoylentNews. God save kolie! And God preserve NCommander! We await the Judgment of God.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @11:06AM (4 children)
I dunno, I found the concept of Soylentil poll dancers intriguing. Then I threw up. You owe me a lunch.
(Score: 1) by pTamok on Tuesday October 17 2023, @04:23PM (3 children)
Leaping nimbly from topic to topic, turning and twirling, casting aside opinions like silk scarves fluttering in the breeze of their passage, until their naked prejudices are shown to the world, quivering slightly with the hot breath of their exertions, and they decide that 'None of the above' is right, so right, and their hands flutter delicately over the keyboard, leaving the scattered evidence of their passing in their wake to be pawed over and pored over while they retreat backstage, ready to come out again at the next opportunity to shine and be noticed.
Poll dancers, a breed apart.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @06:29PM (2 children)
Gotta say - the most elegant prose I have perused lately. Well done!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2023, @02:42AM (1 child)
Bravo! Encore! Puyallup!
(Score: 1) by pTamok on Wednesday October 18 2023, @12:37PM
Thanks both.
I was recovering from/at the back end of a migraine, so my brain was being a bit more florid than usual.
(Score: 2) by dx3bydt3 on Tuesday October 03 2023, @11:32AM (3 children)
I voted "other" but I'm not sure the interface counts as an OS. The first computer I used was a VIC-20.
Other than that, several years later it would have been MS-DOS.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @12:04PM
It counts at least as part of an OS. I'm more familiar with the Commodore 64, but a lot of things also apply to the VIC-20. The combination of BASIC and the KERNAL certainly count as an OS. The BASIC interpreter functions as a shell, while the KERNAL contains a few math functions and a lot of I/O routines for various devices. BASIC was stored in 8K of ROM (addresses 40960-49151) and the KERNAL was in another 8K of ROM (addresses 57344-65535). If you used a disk drive, that also had its own processor, a 6502 running at 1 MHz, that ran Commodore DOS. As I recall, the drive also had 64K of address space, but it didn't have a full 64K of RAM like a Commodore 64, and the limited RAM in the drive was mirrored. In the case of the Commodore 64, the value of address 1 would determine whether the various ROMs or the underlying RAM was selected. Anyway, I'd say the combination of BASIC, the KERNAL, and the DOS running on the disk drive certainly constitutes a proper operating system. Alternative operating systems were developed as well like GEOS and LUNIX.
(Score: 2) by Zinho on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:41PM
Glad you mentioned C-64! I don't actually remember whether my first computing experience was on a C-64 at school or the TI 99/4A at home. I'm hard pressed to call using either one "OS experience" since I don't remember interacting with the OS on either one except through the BASIC interface, but those are my first computing experiences. DOS from a floppy disk on a WANG government surplus computer comes next (and got me through college), followed by Win 3.1/3.11. Ah, the good old days...
"Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin
(Score: 1) by psa on Monday October 16 2023, @08:34PM
Vic-20. That was my first, too. Then apple ][, and VMS.
Whoever created this poll was clearly younger than I, since most of these operating systems didn't exist when I started using computers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @12:11PM (3 children)
Apple DOS 3.3 for me, but for those of us who started during the early home PC era, I'm curious at the absence of any of the Apple II operating systems -- DOS 3.2, DOS 3.3, ProDOS, GS/OS -- or Apple SOS for the Apple III. What about TRS-DOS for the TRS-80 users and whatever operating systems were used on C-64 and Atari computers?
I realize the poll can't be exhaustive, but the Apple II variations and clones were extremely common in the classroom so would have been first for a lot of kids. The Apple II and C-64 operating systems would each have been first used by a lot more people than OS/2 or BeOS combined, yet those each made the list.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:28PM (1 child)
Interesting, I know I used Apple DOS, not that I knew that's what it was called until you pointed it out. Though, I believe my parents got a computer for the home, before I had my first experience using an Apple II. The computer we got had an orange monochrome screen, no HDD, a 3.5" and 5 1/4" Floppy Disk Drive and I know we had one of those dot-matrix printers with the green/white lined paper (maybe the paper colors were different, but I'm pretty sure it was some sort of alternating color per line). I also got my first taste of programming on that machine with some computer game book for BASIC.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @10:15AM
(Score: 2) by Rich on Friday October 13 2023, @10:08AM
For less absence, here's one vote for Apple DOS 3.3.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday October 03 2023, @12:27PM (4 children)
One of my favorite computer books of all time is Undocumented DOS [archive.org]. Because it turned out that if you knew what you were doing, you could read and even alter DOS internals to learn all sorts of interesting things about your computer. This was especially true if you were doing this on an IBM PC without any of the privilege protections in the CPU and memory that are common now, so you could if you wanted to do things like write a new interrupt handler and tell the CPU to use that instead of the OS's version.
Of course, viruses and other assorted bad guys also knew how to take advantage of this stuff.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:30PM
'eh, viruses weren't a real threat for the vast majority of users until the age of Windows. Though, DOS was around for a good while and wasn't really replaced / supplanted until Windows 2000/NT/XP era.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:49PM (2 children)
>you could if you wanted to do things like write a new interrupt handler and tell the CPU to use that instead of the OS's version.
In 1991 this was standard practice within MS-DOS, if you wanted your RS-232 data to travel in and out of the PC intact and usefully connected to a processing program.
Fun tidbit: RS-232 handler tutorials of the day (mostly found in bookstores) would publish examples of the interrupt based receiver / buffer, and they mostly worked well, but EVERY SINGLE ONE would leave the interrupt driven transmit and buffering code "as an exercise for the reader" because... the standard 8259 or whatever those one byte buffer 232 chips were included in the PCs, including the system-on-chip silicon that implemented the 232 interface on-chip, had a bug in the transmit handler hardware - it just didn't work as intended or documented, you basically had to hand feed data to the transmitter without relying on an interrupt signal from it to tell you when it was ready for the next byte.
In the later 1990s when modems were starting to exceed 1200 baud (because people were starting to connect graphic browsers to the internet), the standard PC 232 interface chips moved up to 16550 and similar 16 byte buffer models, and then everything worked, but by then we had settled on using a commercial 232 interface library and letting them re-code for every new release of DOS/Windows while we interfaced with their more stable API. See, those "undocumented DOS" techniques, while they were the only thing that was really practical to use at the time, also were virtually guaranteed to break every time a new "99% compatible with legacy code" version of DOS was released, which was several times a year back in those days.
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(Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday October 08 2023, @11:51AM (1 child)
I really, really hate those "exercises for the reader" where they don't tell you the whole story i.e. that there is something broken that you'll have to work around yourself. When I was younger and tended to believe my elders and betters, I would have gone mad wondering what was wrong with my code when the actual hardware was at fault.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday October 08 2023, @12:41PM
I fought the problem from 1990 until 1995, didn't learn that the hardware was at fault until 2003. I knew the system was borked, just not at what level for sure. Until 2003 I assumed Microsoft had screwed up somehow. Given their position in the field I still feel comfortable laying the blame at their feet for ignoring the problem for over a decade.
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:15PM (22 children)
I would like to report to the admin that there are more death threats by Runaway1956 on the front page, in the Elon Musk article comments. This time he is advocating killing Australians. Not cool to have someone like him advocating violence on SN, makes us look bad.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday October 04 2023, @06:52AM (17 children)
How interesting. It doesn't say Australians - it says 'ALL'. And it is the very same demand that you have made in previous comments. Pot calling kettle?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:21AM (1 child)
How interesting! ALL tyrants must include janrinok, so this is a personal death threat against janrinok. I hope appropriate measures are taken. If you need any help about where to direct the authorities, there are some Soylentils who can help.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by pTamok on Tuesday October 17 2023, @04:48PM
With one or two possible exceptions*, historical statistics show that it is reasonably certain that people, having been born, will die. So it is reasonably certain that everyone, including tyrants, will die, eventually. 'Death to tyrants.', is a simple statement of fact, not a threat. Wishing early death on them would be a different matter. Few chant 'Early death to tyrants!'.
The lump in my cheek is definitely not my tongue. No way. Have a gobstopper.
*No, not Jesus, He died and was buried, remember? It's in the Apostle's Creed [wikipedia.org]. However, Catholic tradition has it that Mary, Mother of Jesus was assumed in Heaven (Bodily Assumption [wikipedia.org]) and some take that to mean that she entered Heaven without dying, and I think there are one or two prophets (Enoch & Elijah) that had the same fate.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 06 2023, @08:17PM (14 children)
At least he is consistent is supporting right-wing stochastic violence coming from Runaway.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @07:57AM (13 children)
Death to some tyrants? Like, the ones we disagree with? Although their totally racist worldviews are equivalent to globalist (and American) ideals of equality and justice. But, janrinok thinks differently.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:26AM (12 children)
Funny how reporting unhinged Republican death threats on SN is now considered spam, unlike the death threats themselves. Death to SoylentNews!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:34AM (11 children)
This is a poll about Operating Systems - not a place for ACs to sound off about anything they wish. In accordance with your ban, your posts are marked as Spam.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @08:46AM (9 children)
Well, I hope you are as dismissive after the crazed right-wing ammosexual Runaway kills your tyrannical arse! I tried to warn you.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @09:21AM (7 children)
We will miss janrinok. We will mourn him as we do MDC. He was a good man. And a real soylentil.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:16AM (6 children)
Wot? Janrinok is dead? I was worried about audioguy, and MartyB is still around but diminished, but I had no Idea that janrinok was dead. I hope I am wrong.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:18AM (5 children)
Sorry to hear that janrinok is dead. Seems like SN is like the Brit guy, who used to read the Obit, for spite and satisfaction. Are they doing the Arkansas "Manhunt", with the repurposed escaped slave patrols, to find this deplorable Runaway1956 slave person? Should be able to identify him by his skin color, or that he is driving an American made SUV, without out reactor containment. Reavers! Trump made them! '
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:41AM (4 children)
Also incorrect - or a intentional lie.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:05AM (3 children)
If janrinok is not dead, who is this that has taken over his account, given that janrinok is dead, killed by the coward Runaway1956? Inquiring minds want to know.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2023, @10:27AM (2 children)
Janrinok has offered a truce to aristarchus, on the condition that aristarchus never reveal this to anyone, and never admit that he is aristarchus, forever. That sounds like janrinok has died, if you ask me. Or, at least, the SN is delecta.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday October 26 2023, @11:36AM (1 child)
Had he accepted the offer, and as he has now broken one of the stipulated conditions within it, any account that he had created would have been disabled, as was clearly explained clearly to him. Last night, after the Governance meeting, ari tried to protest his innocence again [sylnt.us]. I don't think he expected the response that he was given, which was not positive. He also said:
My response today is:
But he wasn't banned for any of this. He was banned for doxxing, and it is something that he is still attempting to do. In the last few days he has submitted a 'story' attempting to dox a community member again. He is repeatedly doing so in comments and elsewhere too. We do not draw attention to them because that will only give them more publicity. He has not changed his ways, nor do we now expect him to do so.
He has been treated fairly and we have given him ample opportunities to rejoin the community under the same terms as everyone else. He will remain banned - and today's sock-puppet (Neuvoaristarchus) is also disabled.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2023, @08:05PM
Amazing how incorrect your accusations are! Is there some sort of derangement syndrome at work here? Are you sure you banned all the accounts? I mean, all the aristarchus accounts? Is the new policy to spam mod and delete any post that even so much as mentions aristarchus? Will you continue to dig a hole, ban new users, and drive away all but the right-wingers who have already been banned everywhere else?
Keep up the good work, janrinok! I am sure Active Staff everywhere support your efforts!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @09:29AM
And, you don't think that Runaway would kill over the first operating system either of you used? Think again. Such trifles are the causus belli of many a duel, down south were honor holds sway and reason is bereft. He might just do it. An "honour killing", just where we would least expect it. On the other hand, the Wet Squad is reportedly closing in on the target.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2023, @07:48PM
Runaway has posted yet another Murder-Death-Kill journal entry. Seems a bit "true crime"-ish. I really hope someone as put the red flag on him, so he does not perpetrate an incident like the one he is fantacizing about.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @07:08AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:28PM (2 children)
How to cancel.
Step 1. select a target. Ideally a right leaning christian patriot.
Step 2. comb his internet history ("If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him")
Step 3. report the quote implying the most disfavorable meaning. Ideally threaten boycott of the entire outlet if demands are not met.
Ladies, gentlemen and bozos in between, welcome to 1984.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:37AM
No need to cancel the current crop of Christians, they are all going to Hell, anyway. All of them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @03:10PM
You explained the actions of conservative christians, which is not surprising since conservatives primary debate tool is projection aka lying.
(Score: 1) by rcomito on Wednesday October 04 2023, @11:50AM
My first foray into computing was on HeathKit H8 running HDOS.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday October 04 2023, @01:43PM
Actually, this depends on what you mean. My real first was 7090 assembler, but that was all dry runs, worked out on paper. (And I wasn't doing the work, just transcribing for a blind student.)
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 06 2023, @09:25AM (1 child)
You all are aware, are you knot, that the air-burst above the Levant was the Horns of Joshua that felled the Walls of Jericho, proving that the Jews stole that land, fair and square, with the help of the whore janrinok.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 06 2023, @10:04AM
And the walls come tumbling down. This was the main problem with Trump' boarder wall program: it was not biblically based. Or Based in any way.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Zappy on Friday October 06 2023, @02:46PM
Unix System III for me
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @06:34AM (1 child)
So when can we expect the admission that banning comments from ACs is a terrible mistake, pushing comments on front page articles to Pipedot levels? I want this rescinded, even if it mean occasional apk spam. There is nothing here, anymore, except Runaway gun posts, khallow insisting he is correct, and janrinok saying he does not out ACs. Not an attractive prospect for new members! Reverse the AC ban, or SoylentNews will die (if it has not already).
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @04:49PM
Banning comments from ACs was great, and I say this as someone who never had an account and always posted AC. Because banning AC indeed will lead to the end of SoylentNews. It needs killin'. Let it die.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:05AM
Banned from the front page, but the fascist The Vocal Minority is pushing the fascist site, Rumble, all over SoylentNews. Someone needs to stifle this boy! Russell Brand is no ones friend, unless he has rape-drugged them, as I suspect Vocal has been. Time to step up, editores! Flex your deletion powers! Ban the wackadoodle doodaddy craycray alt-right that aristarchus has warned you about so well! No, seriously, he did, and he was right. Now is the time to repunge them!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:02PM (9 children)
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=58009&page=1&cid=1327739#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
Such a perfect comment, sad that MuH FrEEEeEzE PeAcH squad is always the shittiest of people complaining about things that do not violate their 1st amendment rights. Almost like they are fascist shit stains that whine when they get kicked out of places for civil society. The idealism of SN has been shown to be a farce and we're left with a flood of garbage by dedicated fascists.
Women's rights to their own bodies? Nope!
Live and let live regardless of gender or religious affiliation? Nope!
Support policies to help fellow citizens? Nope!
Violent attacks and degradation of society's support systems? Hell ya!
(Score: 2) by turgid on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:09PM (8 children)
If Soylent News went away I don't think there's anywhere else on the Intertubes I could do my stupid signalling. It's the one place where I neither know nor care what people look like but I can post questions and sometimes get useful answers.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 08 2023, @02:27PM (6 children)
Who said anything about shutting it down? Just think there should be better community moderation, crud like https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57977&page=1&cid=1327495 [soylentnews.org] should be kicked out, a site advertising as News for Nerds should have some bare minimum standards for truth and decorum. There are standards, but they are arbitrarily enforced at the whims of staff volunteers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:12AM (5 children)
If aristardchus can get stories advocating cannibalism accepted, well, I don't know what else can be done. Arbitrary whims of staff? Do not be caught snowed in with chromas. Just saying.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Monday October 09 2023, @11:11AM (4 children)
The article is not advocating cannibalism - it is confirming that it took place in a specific group of people 15,000 years ago, and discussing the implications of this fact.
You are just about what the story actually said. And I know that aristarchus submitted it - we can see that on IRC. But anyone can submit a story for consideration and, if it meets the site's criteria for submissions, it might be published.
You posted a submission. If it had been rejected you would have claimed that we are rejecting valid submissions from ACs, which would not be true. However, it was accepted and now you are trying to mock the story selection process that shoots down your expected response in flames. You need to seek psychiatric help.
Your post is moderated as Spam in accordance with the ban that has been imposed upon you.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @06:45PM
AC has been banned, now? What are you doing, janrinok? Why are you responding?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @07:53PM (2 children)
And what "group of people" was that? Yes, Englishmen. Fee, fie, foo, fum. And, where? In Gough's Cave, near Cheddar Gorge, I will never be able to eat the cheese again.
Sun never sets, etc., etc.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:20AM (1 child)
StoneHenge Cannibal English types! Of course we all knew it, or at least imagined it. WickerMan? Amy Winehouse. Jan Rinok, cannibal extraordinaire!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @08:32PM
Stonehinge! Cannibalism that goes all the way to 11!
(Score: 3, Funny) by kazzie on Sunday October 15 2023, @08:22AM
The last time I did some stupid signalling I caused a train crash. Never again...
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:52PM
He's at it again! New journal entry, but this time, he's fixed it.
ACs banned FOREVER, apparently, since they COMPLAIN incessantly. Here I thought it was constructive criticism by valued members of the community. My mistake.
But there is also this in Article VIII:
To include the doxxing of members posting as AC, violating the confidential nature of AC data? Maybe it is time to do some removal, even before there are bylaws.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @09:19AM (5 children)
Seriously, the front page article on men being jerks at a female oriented tech job fair just screams incel all over it. Do not the eds see this? Can they not tell what is whit superist propaganda, and what is alt-right click-bait, and what is Dying Boomer Grasps at immortality? I have lost faith with SN. Bad articles, mostly.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday October 11 2023, @12:16PM (2 children)
No, I do not read that into any of the stories that we print. You apparently do. The thing you are complaining about is in the comments, not in the story. Again, you want to control what other people can say. You do not have that right.
You complained that the stories that we published were too specialised and that there were many other topics that could be discussed. We decided to broaden our selection criteria. Now you only want stories that you presonally like.
Perhaps like the three that you submitted this morning and which have since been deleted. Lets look at them shall we: "New Charges Accuse George Santos of Identity Theft, Credit Card Fraud", "Alt-right ziet zichzelf als de voorhoede van de nieuwe samenleving. Ze bereidden zich voor op een burgeroorlog" and "Scrutiny of Arkansas governor's $19,000 lectern deepens after new records are released". The subject matter of the second one is still obvious despite the fact that it is not acceptable as a submission because submissions must be in English. Now the other two are also politically based stories which have absolutely no relevance to any of our topics, even giving them the widest possible interpretation. If you don't like the topics why don't you go to another site that meets your needs?
You even try to criticise the site with off-topic comments in the Poll like "Not to mention PDP12, but looks like the editors are now protecting George Santos, and rejecting all subs exposing his medancity! [soylentnews.org]". The main problem with this site is you.
Get psychiatric help, please.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @07:57PM
FINALLY! janrinok has isolated the problem! Hopefully, he will bring it up during today's Guv'ner's Committee Meeting, so the issue can be resolved.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2023, @08:19AM
Waarom moet de inzending in het Engels zijn? Columbus sprak Italiaans Spaans, voor degenen die geen van beide verstonden.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @11:01PM (1 child)
The incel story featured actual comments by real-life incels, and culminated with Runaway calling everyone "ferries". Saw that coming.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:22AM
No, seriously, Runaway was calling everyone "Faerries", until DannyB corrected him. Ferking Groomer, that Runaway1956!!
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday October 11 2023, @02:08PM
A programming language/OS running on a Bendx G15-D. It was given to my university in 1957.
It consisted of an interpreter for something that looked like today's machine languages. Yes, machine languages, not assembler. The machine didn't have what we now consider to have alphabetic I/O. Just hexadecimal, using uvwxyz instead of abcdef. It was given to my university in 1957.
The computer's main memory was on a magnetic drum. It had nothing like today's RAM. The contents of the magnetic drum were volatile, and had to be reloaded from paper tape whenever the power went out.
The computer did have an actual machine language, which resembled microcode. I never managed to write any working microcode, but I did get some Intercom 1000 programs to work. It baffles me what they used for writing and debugging the microcode implementation of Intercom 1000.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Friday October 13 2023, @06:03PM
The OS was in a ROM. It was pretty slow, so the second OS I used was none at all, Z-80 machine code hand-assembled from assembly language. A full two player battle tanks game in less than 200 bytes. And it was too fast (4kHz CPU, today's are measured in gHz) to play, I had to add loops to slow it down.
If you can program in BASIC, learning assembly is easy.
Poe's Law [nooze.org] has nothing to do with Edgar Allen Poetry
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2023, @11:14AM
Seriously, if you can get kids to buy Mormonism, with all its really wacko theology, history, and over-sexed morality, I can see how you would be worried about Tik-tok. And the Church Universal and Triumphant of khallow territory, or the Church of Insane Korean Sex Obsessed Gun Fanatics. At least they are not Catholics, or handling serpents.
Is religious insanity hereditary? Lori Vallow Daybell [mirror.co.uk]. And now Tim Ballard, child-trafficking savior? And, the most cray-cray, Glenn Beck [reddit.com], who Raped and murdered in 1990 [motherjones.com], and has never denied that he did. Murders of the Destroying Angels. https://www.quora.com/Why-are-most-serial-killers-Mormons-Jeff-Dahmer-was-raised-Mormon-and-so-was-Ted-Bundy [quora.com] And people are worried about Hamas. Jeez.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2023, @11:42AM (2 children)
None of them, because janrinok has "disabled" them. Unless they are registered users, clicking the little box so that janrinok can dox them. aristarchus has an account, a banned account, but he is still the most prolific commentor, and submissor, on SoylentNews. Janrinok need to re-define his "active users" and "active staff" to mean "people not censored by janrinok". Oligarchy as usual, and it ain't getting any better, with the new proposed oligarchic bylaws.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2023, @10:01AM (1 child)
Who will have a vote in this Brave New SoylentNews? Steakholders? Participatory democrats? Unvarnished masses? Plethora of Periwinkle Perjurors? Active Staff Infections? Formerly Flustered Fistulas? Golden Showers of the New Dawn, and Runaway?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2023, @10:27AM
khallow seems to have taken the accusation of arguing in bad faith to heart, and is now projecting it upon all his critics. My take is that his obvious rebuttal is in bad faith, and it wasn't an insurrection.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @07:34PM
Speaking of fist operating systems, Runsaway has locked down his most recent ammosexual gun-nuttery journal entry, to defend it against reasonable people. Seems it is like chili peppers, were "ghost reapers" are in fashion, and people are growing their own with a three-dee printer. Plastic guns, like a Glock. All the usual right-wing sycophants are joining in; they call themselves the "Freedumb Caucaws", and Runsaway is their speeker.
As founding Father Alfred E. Neuman said, "the only solution to bad guns is more guns, not censorship!"
(Score: 2) by OrugTor on Thursday October 19 2023, @04:08PM
Executive on an ICL 1904. 16K words. Paper tape, EDS8 and punch girls. Good times.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:13AM (6 children)
Can't comment on the front page, since I am not a "active member", throbbing in the orifice of the active staff, but just would like to say, this is pure clickbait, with no basis in neurophysiology, nor philosophy of mind. Only complete idiots, with no free will, would allow such a stupid article on the front page. I do not say this lightly, in fact, I must say this due to the operational conditioning that makes me call out total bullshit, and the desecration of SoylentNews. Janrinok should know better than this, if he had a iota of free will, or discretion.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:40AM (5 children)
It is offered as a discussion. You can join in if you want to use an account.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:07AM (4 children)
Many have reported that their attempts to open accounts have been rejected by someone called "janrinok". I get the impression that SN does not want any new members. Just the idea I get.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:18AM (3 children)
Reported where and to whom?
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @10:16AM (2 children)
Well not to the person doing all the account banning, obviously. That would be stupid!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @11:34AM (1 child)
So what you mean is that you have made another claim that you cannot substantiate.
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2023, @01:47AM
Substantiation is left as an exercise for the reader. Transubstantiation is left to the Holy Communion by the True Beliebers and Active Infectious Staff.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @10:06AM (3 children)
MOAR SPAM MODS!!!! LOTS OF THEM!!! IF WE HAVE ENOUGH THE BAD MAN WILL GO AWAY!!!!! MOAR!!!!!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2023, @01:45AM (2 children)
Parent post needs more spam mods, stat!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24 2023, @07:43AM
It's still only got the one, Gov'ner! Ha'penny for a working man?
(Score: 2) by UncleSlacky on Saturday October 21 2023, @01:50PM
Playing HAMURABI in 6th grade, which was my first computing experience. The first one I owned was a 48k Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
https://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/showpage.php?page=78 [atariarchives.org]
(Score: 2) by ese002 on Sunday October 22 2023, @06:05PM
Then UCSD P-System. The first listed OS MSDOS 2.0 was third.
I'm not counting when I learned just enough to restart the Tie Fighter on an Apple II in 1978. Apple DOS 1.0 I suspect.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 23 2023, @09:10AM
Clickbait articles run amok on the front page, with no plausible reason. We do not make money off of clicks, so there is no monetary incentive for such dreck. And, in fact, most of us come here precisely because of the lack of Commercial promulgations, otherwise known as spam. And then we get modded Spam. I am sure this makes sense in some alternate universe.
(Score: 2) by LaminatorX on Tuesday October 24 2023, @12:01AM
If so, TI-99/4a BASIC. If not, Apple II ProDOS 8.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25 2023, @09:04AM
Seriously? On the front page? Yellow journalism is one thing, but this is a leak too far. Which editors approved this?
(Score: 2) by mendax on Thursday October 26 2023, @05:46AM
My first OS was NOS 1.4, the standard timesharing operating system for Control Data Cyber 170 series mainframes from the mid to late 1970's to the mid 1980's. The machine was a grandchild of Seymour Cray's CDC 6000 series mainframes from the mid 1960's, the first supercomputers. NOS was somewhat reminiscent of Unix in the sense that all I/O was done via a file but that's where the similarity ends. It was a very strange OS but nowhere near as strange as IBM's mainframe OSes. Anyway, I learned Fortran on one of those beasts and, like Mr. Spock, my father gave me my first instruction in computers as I used his university account.
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.