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When will the 'SoylentNews.org' folding@home team break into the top 500?

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on or before 2016-03-16
  3% 3 votes
on or before 2016-04-01
  3% 3 votes
on or before 2016-04-16
  1% 1 votes
on or before 2016-05-01
  2% 2 votes
on or before 2016-05-16
  1% 1 votes
after 2016-05-16
  21% 17 votes
I only fold at work, you insensitive clod!
  42% 34 votes
other, specify
  23% 19 votes
80 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
  • Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
  • This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
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  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:47PM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:47PM (#310755) Journal

    Shouldn't the options be mutually exclusive?

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    • (Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:14PM

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:14PM (#310778) Journal

      Shouldn't the options be mutually exclusive?

      Yes, had a bit of a brain fart there. Poll updated; you should see the changes soon.

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      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:49PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:49PM (#310793) Journal

        They are still not mutually exclusive. For example, I cannot find a way that option 1 is true without all of options 2 to 5 also being true.

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
        • (Score: 2) by Bytram on Saturday February 27 2016, @11:38PM

          by Bytram (4043) on Saturday February 27 2016, @11:38PM (#310850) Journal

          I imagine there is only so much room for each choice in the poll — pretend you are playing "The Price is Right" and make your best guess "without going over."

          =)

  • (Score: 2) by Sir Finkus on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:50PM

    by Sir Finkus (192) on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:50PM (#310757) Journal

    So I guess there are only 3 valid poll options?

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:54PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:54PM (#310759) Journal

      Well, the poll didn't specify the calendar. ;-)

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:16PM

      by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 27 2016, @09:16PM (#310780) Journal

      Yes, it *is* 2016. My bad. To my credit, at least I was *consistent*! Poll fixed; you should see the changes soon.

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 27 2016, @10:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 27 2016, @10:51PM (#310821)

        Wow. Just wow. It's 2016.

  • (Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:56PM

    by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 27 2016, @08:56PM (#310762) Journal

    For those who might not be aware, there is an Official Soylent News Folding@Home Team [soylentnews.org]. Please read that article for background on what folding@home is, and what it supports. Our team started on February 14th, 2016.

    Here are some useful links:

    Anyone is welcome to join the SoylentNews team... the more the merrier. At the time of posting this, team SSoylentNews.org is "2850 of 224031" — way to go everyone!

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    • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Friday March 04 2016, @11:13PM

      by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Friday March 04 2016, @11:13PM (#313979) Journal

      Noticed the addition of several new members and an increase in upward movement. Awesome.

      I hope to be moved into the new place by the end of March, or early April at the latest. I'll set up my desktop boxes and switch or add my GPU's to the CPU I am using now. Moving really sucks, especially when you're moving from a long term place. I never really understood how much stuff I had accumulated in the many years I lived there.
      The new house is almost finished from the exterior, but still needs quite a bit of interior work, e.g. walls and appliances but the contractor assured me that it goes really quick :)

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    • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Monday March 07 2016, @05:56AM

      by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Monday March 07 2016, @05:56AM (#314762) Journal

      better Folding at home links, not sure why you linked to extreme overclocking's page ...

      Stanford Folding at Home (FAH) project
      http://folding.stanford.edu/home/ [stanford.edu]

      FAH Overall team stat's page :
      http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teamstats [stanford.edu]

      Team Soylent's home page : we are team # 230319 for reference
      http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=230319 [stanford.edu]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07 2016, @10:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07 2016, @10:48AM (#314854)

      Now on page 21, not 29, ranked 2051 as at 10:46 am 7th March GMT.

      Team is SoylentNews not SSoylentNews.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 28 2016, @10:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 28 2016, @10:13AM (#311076)

    This resource is no longer valid. Please return to the beginning and try again.

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 28 2016, @05:22PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 28 2016, @05:22PM (#311181) Journal

    Under current conditions, it ain't gonna happen, IMHO. I've browsed the rankings pages. There are more than 2 or 300 other teams generating half a million points per day. We ain't catching them, unless something changes. There are a lot of other teams we will catch, but they are so far ahead of us, it's going to take more than 4 months.

    Teams come and go. We're a new team, no one can say how many of our members are in it for the long haul. If everyone, then our chances are better. If we convince a few more people to join, our chances get better. But, I just don't see a ranking above 500 soon.

    I'm to lazy to actually crunch the numbers to get a projection. It would take more than ten minutes of my time, just to figure out how to get the numbers.

    As I type this, we are on page 28 in the rankings - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&p=28 [extremeoverclocking.com] We are still rising rapidly, but we are slowing down. We've only passed 85 teams in the past 24 hours. That number is going to decrease, until we finally pass a team, and it takes us a week to pass another team. That is, we'll slowly catch up to past top-performers. Early on, we were passing up almost a thousand other teams per day.

    If we want to be in the top 500 in the first half of the year, we need to recruit either several more members, or we need to recruit someone with a super fast machine with a lot of cores, or some combination of both.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 28 2016, @05:37PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 28 2016, @05:37PM (#311184) Journal

      Talking to myself . . .

      Looking at the rankings sorted by 24 hour averages, we rank #229 at the moment - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&srt=3&p=3 [extremeoverclocking.com]

      That's a good bit higher than I thought we were. Ehhh - I hate to get optimistic, but maybe my pessimism isn't really warranted.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by kurenai.tsubasa on Sunday February 28 2016, @10:23PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Sunday February 28 2016, @10:23PM (#311309) Journal

      GPU folding is definitely the way to go. I was surprised by how many points I have running an nVidia GTX-970 just part time for the past week or so. I have CPU folding disabled since I'll need to installer a water cooler before my rig would be able to handle that. I'm currently sitting at roughly 64°C for the CPU and a steady 80°C for the GPU not doing much other than FAH, torrent seeding, and web browsing. ATI cards are generally better than nVidia cards for this sort of thing—at least that's what I gathered when I flirted with Dogecoin mining. iirc ATI cards expose better compute power than nVidia cards.

      Hmm… I just started folding on my server in the clouds again, and I'm eyeballing my old GT-610 collecting dust on the top of my desk.

      I found a graph [extremeoverclocking.com] there that's predicting we'll make the top 2,000 by 3/11. It looks like it's taking into account other teams' production since it gives a date of 3/14 on that same page for overtaking Monmouth_School_UK. They're averaging 74,000-ish points per day vs. our 309,000-ish per day. Some time towards the end of April, we'll be in the top 1,200; if we're still going strong (gaining at least 5 ranks per day for 7 days) that will enable per-user statistics, otherwise it'll be until the end of June when we may make the top 800 (other way to get per-user statistics).

      We may manage to squeak in to the top 500 in time for Thanksgiving, especially if we can get more people folding. From there on out, we're not going much further than the 400s any time soon.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 29 2016, @03:24AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 29 2016, @03:24AM (#311418) Journal

        Outstanding - that is the info I've been looking for, but failed to find. Yes, it's going to take four days to break into the 2400's - - - - every position will come slower and slower now.

        Team Awachs is in position 43, and they've apparently stopped producing. And, the graph projects that it will take us 29.2 years to overtake them.

        That is the graph that will answer any questions we may have!

        • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Monday February 29 2016, @03:53AM

          by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Monday February 29 2016, @03:53AM (#311425) Journal

          Hahaha! I suppose I'll need to analyze the linear algebra at some other time. My big question is whether they take the extrapolation from Team Soylent's recent increase in productivity as a figure, which shall surely flatline, or whether they use the limited 24 hour average which would be more accurate.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 01 2016, @11:56PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 01 2016, @11:56PM (#312414)

      > 2 or 300 other teams

      Which is it?

  • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Sunday February 28 2016, @06:47PM

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Sunday February 28 2016, @06:47PM (#311212) Journal

    Won't be soon unless we get some more people folding, we've been at 20 members for a while now. Maybe you should petition for some more members to join us. It is easy to install and I've been leaving it running about 18 hours a day on my laptop. As soon as I finish moving, just sold my house, I'll set it up on my desktop machines as well as my laptop.

    BTW Is it possible to run more than 1 client on a machine ? I've not really looked into it too much, many other things to do in the course of cleaning up and moving, but I was hoping someone here was already familiar with the needed steps and could illuminate me easily.

    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=230319 [stanford.edu]

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 28 2016, @08:06PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 28 2016, @08:06PM (#311240) Journal

      Yes, it's in the configuration. I'm kinda thinking that I should be running one client on each physical CPU, but I don't think you really want one for each core on the CPU. I've looked for configuration guides, but haven't found anything definitive.

      If you have a GPU compatible with FAH, then you most certainly want a separate client running on your machine. The GPU will outstrip the CPU very quickly.

      • (Score: 2) by archfeld on Monday February 29 2016, @05:51AM

        by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Monday February 29 2016, @05:51AM (#311452) Journal

        Thanks for the response. I'll just wait a couple of weeks until I get settled in the new house and set up my other boxes and run on them. Cheers, and GO TEAM SOYLENT !!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 29 2016, @08:15PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 29 2016, @08:15PM (#311752)

    latest weird epeen comparing contest is pointless

  • (Score: 2) by Some call me Tim on Tuesday March 01 2016, @03:07AM

    by Some call me Tim (5819) on Tuesday March 01 2016, @03:07AM (#311902)

    Got signed up with a laptop that runs 24/7 anyhow. Funny thing though, on the web control panel the stats link takes me to team [H]ardOCP stats. Advanced control panel shows proper team so I guess I'll wait till I have a completed WU to see if I show up on the team page. Estimated points per day 724.

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  • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday March 02 2016, @01:30AM

    by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday March 02 2016, @01:30AM (#312436) Journal

    For what reason are we doing this?

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    • (Score: 2) by Sir Finkus on Wednesday March 02 2016, @03:54AM

      by Sir Finkus (192) on Wednesday March 02 2016, @03:54AM (#312494) Journal

      You can find more information here [soylentnews.org].

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Friday March 04 2016, @02:24AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 04 2016, @02:24AM (#313394) Journal

      A lot of people think that it would be good to cure cancer, alzheimer's, dyslexia, epilepsy, malaria, or any number of other afflictions. Few of us are smart enough, or have the education, or have the resources to make any meaningful contribution toward those goals. F@H, among others, has more resources than most of us have, but even they don't have enough resources.

      Basically, F@H is trying to "brute force" solutions to some of these problems, and we are contributing computing resources to help them.

  • (Score: 2) by KritonK on Wednesday March 02 2016, @09:23AM

    by KritonK (465) on Wednesday March 02 2016, @09:23AM (#312546)

    There is a 'SoylentNews.org' folding@home team?

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by GlennC on Wednesday March 02 2016, @02:15PM

    by GlennC (3656) on Wednesday March 02 2016, @02:15PM (#312631)

    It will happen when it reaches number 500...duh! :)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 06 2016, @02:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 06 2016, @02:18AM (#314340)

    Has anyone here noted their rate of earning points on various CPUs and associated electricity consumption? Is FAH heavily dependent on memory speed? It seems that 100pts/day would be in the ballpark of a 2.0Ghz P4 or something.

    I used to run FAH on Win2k but I haven't run it since 2011. The Win2k client doesn't appear to work anymore. If I were to go down in the basement and install the new Linux client on something I think I could get 400pts/day on a dual core Athlon at a cost of 2KWh per day (200pts/KWh or about 28 cents)

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Thursday March 10 2016, @08:55PM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday March 10 2016, @08:55PM (#316773) Journal

    As of now, the SN team has a ranking of 1835, while the other site's team has fallen back to rank 1848.

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday March 11 2016, @04:25PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday March 11 2016, @04:25PM (#317060) Journal

      With rank 1803, we've now also passed the rank of the other site at the time of the other story (which was 1817).

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday March 11 2016, @10:14PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 11 2016, @10:14PM (#317200) Journal
        My firewall finally decided to ask if I wanted this program to run. So looks like I'm chewing work units now.
        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday March 11 2016, @11:25PM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday March 11 2016, @11:25PM (#317222) Journal

          On the other hand, for some reason today my client no longer gets any work units and sits idle (at currently 13 failed attempts to get a new assignment).

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          The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 12 2016, @12:52AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 12 2016, @12:52AM (#317237) Journal
            When that happened to me, it was because my firewall was blocking the folding@home server's return communication. In your case, it may just be that the folding@home servers are all down. I noticed there were about 20 minutes between connection attempts. That's a bit over four hours. Look at the IP and ports that the client tries to connect to in the log and attempt to connect with your web browser. If you can get in, it's probably not that.
            • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday March 12 2016, @09:18AM

              by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday March 12 2016, @09:18AM (#317317) Journal

              Well, the client got work again over night, so I guess I'll not figure out what went wrong anyway. BTW, the time between request attempts seems to grow over time; according to the log, initially the distance between attempts was just a few minutes, while the distance between the last failed attempt and the succeeded one was almost 6 hours.

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              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 12 2016, @10:08AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 12 2016, @10:08AM (#317327) Journal
                Thanks, that shows I didn't look at the logs very hard.
  • (Score: 2) by DutchUncle on Saturday March 12 2016, @02:27AM

    by DutchUncle (5370) on Saturday March 12 2016, @02:27AM (#317255)

    . . . . the third or fourth time Boinc and SETI@home killed my system (at the time). Yes, I know distributed processing is the way of the future, and there are a lot of extra cycles being wasted on screensavers (oh, wait, does anyone have flying toasters any more?), but, sorry, no.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 13 2016, @01:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 13 2016, @01:42AM (#317523)

      I've been running seti@home since it started back in 1999 and never ran into a problem with it. Perhaps you were letting it use 100% CPU and it overheated? My PCs have an ICE cooling system (water filled radiator) and never exceeds 60°C even at 100%. For the last few years I don't let the GPU get any workunits, limit the CPU to 10%, and disk writeback is set for every 10 minutes to save energy.

  • (Score: 2) by Some call me Tim on Thursday March 24 2016, @03:06AM

    by Some call me Tim (5819) on Thursday March 24 2016, @03:06AM (#322383)

    We're moving up fast! As of this post our team is at 1386 and flying up the chart. I browsed the list and I don't see any teams between us and 500 that are making the points like we are.

    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&p=14 [extremeoverclocking.com]

    On another note, either I'm missing a folding joke or 34 voters are working in a dry cleaners :-)

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