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Fiber
  18% 68 votes
Cable
  36% 134 votes
Wireless
  4% 15 votes
DSL
  33% 124 votes
Dial-up
  2% 8 votes
The Mighty Buzzard (RFC 1149)
  4% 15 votes
Other - specify
  1% 7 votes
371 total votes.
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  • Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
  • Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
  • This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Sunday May 15 2016, @03:20PM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday May 15 2016, @03:20PM (#346437) Journal

    The options are not mutually exclusive: When at home, I use DSL, when at work Ethernet/whatever is used to connect the LAN to the Internet, elsewhere usually WLAN, sometimes the phone network. I selected DSL because currently I mostly use the Internet at home.

    This also shows another problem: If my computer connects by Ethernet to a home router that is connected to the Internet with DSL, do I use Ethernet or DSL to access the Internet? Or both?

    --
    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 3, Informative) by jmorris on Monday May 16 2016, @04:11AM

      by jmorris (4844) on Monday May 16 2016, @04:11AM (#346688)

      The work/home split is a legit nit to pick, the other not so much. It is clear by inference the poll is asking how your local network connects to the public Internet. The choice implies the speed and bandwidth cap too, roughly in order presented, fastest/highest to slowest/lowest.

    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Sunday May 29 2016, @08:05AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Sunday May 29 2016, @08:05AM (#352188)

      My messages are kindly relayed through a series of taps on the pipes running through my cell.

      --
      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by butthurt on Sunday May 15 2016, @11:00PM

    by butthurt (6141) on Sunday May 15 2016, @11:00PM (#346574) Journal
  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @05:05AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @05:05AM (#346706)

    Fiber is a cable. It contains a light guide made of glass or plastic, not a wire.

    So... all 3 options apply.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Snow on Monday May 16 2016, @07:33PM

      by Snow (1601) on Monday May 16 2016, @07:33PM (#347003) Journal

      I think it's pretty safe to assume that in this case, cable = coaxial cable.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Tuesday May 17 2016, @09:05PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday May 17 2016, @09:05PM (#347459)

      I'm technically connected via Wi-Fi to a switch, it's connected via ethernet to a modem, which connects via Cable to the FTTP box outside.
      So I'll take the top 3.

      Still working on domesticating the green parrots to get RFC1149. Given the size of the flock, it would be pretty high bandwidth, but at most 4-per-day latency.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday May 21 2016, @11:13AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday May 21 2016, @11:13AM (#349045) Journal

        Well, technically I'm connected to the internet via keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers.

        --
        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2) by bitstream on Tuesday May 24 2016, @12:08AM

      by bitstream (6144) on Tuesday May 24 2016, @12:08AM (#350077) Journal

      It's a widely adopted misnomer like 8P8C is called RJ45, which is completely wrong another one is the connector DE9 is called DB9. Perhaps something really relevant is the term bandwidth which refers to the width in frequency and strength a signal can have not the data rate of anything.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @02:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @02:55PM (#346878)

    The amount of people being pedantic about this poll when it is abundantly clear what it is asking is astounding.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Marand on Monday May 16 2016, @03:02PM

      by Marand (1081) on Monday May 16 2016, @03:02PM (#346879) Journal

      Welcome to the internet, you must be new here. Rule of thumb for online discussion is, if you don't have anything useful to contribute, you can always still nitpick some pointless minutiae of what you read, criticise the author directly, or just skip all the bullshit and go right to trolling.

      If we were to only respond when we have something relevant to say, comment sections on sites would be barren, boring places. :)

      • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Thursday May 19 2016, @01:27AM

        by Subsentient (1111) on Thursday May 19 2016, @01:27AM (#348095) Homepage Journal

        Ooh! Ooh! I like the trolling!

        Grandma likes to suck horse semen from her doberman's salty rectum!

        --
        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
        • (Score: 2) by chromas on Wednesday June 01 2016, @05:27AM

          by chromas (34) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 01 2016, @05:27AM (#353347) Journal

          That's not trolling; it's just insulting. Dogs hate grandmas!

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by maxwell demon on Monday May 16 2016, @03:21PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday May 16 2016, @03:21PM (#346883) Journal

      Well, maybe you prefer a comment being pedantic about your title? ;-)

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @03:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 16 2016, @03:35PM (#346888)

      The amount of people being pedantic about this poll , when it is abundantly clear what it is asking, is astounding.

      Please use commas with your clauses [grammarly.com]. Also, there seems to be a space when opening tags before a comma.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 16 2016, @05:56PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 16 2016, @05:56PM (#346948) Journal

    For the pedantic, I use both wireless and ethernet to connect to a modem/router which is connected to the internet. When that modem takes a crap, I don't connect to the internet, despite the fact that my wireless network and my ethernet still work fine. I can, and have, transferred multi-gig files across my network in mere minutes, but it takes hours to download the average movie from the internet. I guess DSL is pretty sucky anywhere, but I have the suckiest of all DSL's.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2016, @04:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 18 2016, @04:02PM (#347873)

      Offtopic? WTF assholes.
      NTIOT (Now This I OffTopic!)

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday May 27 2016, @06:41AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday May 27 2016, @06:41AM (#351456) Journal

      DSL is not crappy in Germany. I've got a 16 Mbps connection, and more often than not, I actually get those 16 Mbps. 16 Mbps means about 8.5 minutes per GB.

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by gman003 on Monday May 16 2016, @11:45PM

    by gman003 (4155) on Monday May 16 2016, @11:45PM (#347077)

    I know it's tradition to have a figurehead person as a joke poll choice, but does it really have to be Buzzard of all people? He's not exactly the best choice for a mascot, by which I mean he's an unrepentant asshole who insists on politicizing everything, mistakes his cynicism and paranoia for wisdom, and either hasn't been called out on it or assumes all criticism is from some group he thinks is morally evil and not worth listening to. (Which ought to make his response to this comment interesting)

    It's a decently funny gag, although perhaps overused, and I am by no means saying that Buzzard needs to be kicked off the site or anything. But there has got to be a better person to make the Soylent face. NCommander is the obvious pick, or one of the editors if you want someone less introverted (I'd cast a vote for takyon, if that means anything).

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Tuesday May 17 2016, @01:59AM

      by butthurt (6141) on Tuesday May 17 2016, @01:59AM (#347099) Journal

      In a previous poll, [soylentnews.org] "forget this meme" was favoured, with CowboyNeal the next most popular. That was before "Boaty McBoatface" had been coined.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 22 2016, @02:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 22 2016, @02:58AM (#349371)

        Buzzy McBuzzface ?

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by stormwyrm on Tuesday May 17 2016, @07:12AM

      by stormwyrm (717) on Tuesday May 17 2016, @07:12AM (#347174) Journal
      The Mighty Buzzard seems to be an appropriate choice for this specific poll though, given that it also references RFC 1149, and well, the Buzzard qualifies as an "avian carrier".
      --
      Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate.
      • (Score: 2) by bitstream on Monday May 23 2016, @11:55PM

        by bitstream (6144) on Monday May 23 2016, @11:55PM (#350069) Journal

        Never knew the people at soylent are so enlightened as to have wings. Amazing .. ;-)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 17 2016, @01:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 17 2016, @01:10PM (#347273)

      Buzzard is a twat, no doubt about it. I see no point in giving it more attention than it already has.

    • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Thursday May 19 2016, @01:28AM

      by Subsentient (1111) on Thursday May 19 2016, @01:28AM (#348098) Homepage Journal

      Buzzard's an interesting old fart. Just because he disagrees with you, or me (I'm a socialist) doesn't mean he's suddenly the devil.

      --
      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @02:26AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @02:26AM (#349755)

        We should note here that a significant portion of the code that makes this place run is his work e.g. S/N was 6 months old when it got Unicode.
        (The other site was what, 16 years old then; last I saw, it was still without Unicode support.)

        Yeah, his let's-just-live-by-the-law-of-the-jungle thing is pretty extreme but everybody is good for something--even if that's just as a example of bad judgment. 8-)

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 27 2016, @09:42PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 27 2016, @09:42PM (#351782)

        "Buzzard's an boring old twat."

        FTFY. The problem isn't that he's disagreeable. But the fact that he is an douchy old piece of shit who should do the world a favor and off himself. Seriously. I'd pay money to watch him slit his weak, wrinkly, withering wrists.

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2016, @02:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 19 2016, @02:30AM (#348117)

      NTIOT

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday May 20 2016, @12:48AM

      What, you thought I'd disagree? Personally, I think crutchy should be the joke option but we can barely get him to ever log in, much less get recruited on to staff. He's much funnier because he's Australian.

      Anyway, it's a joke option. It's not like the eds are giving me a soap box from which to annoy you further. And if just seeing my handle annoys you, you really should enhance your calm. Maybe move to Colorado and get your recreation on or participate in more frequent bouts of coitus or something.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 3, Informative) by mendax on Tuesday May 17 2016, @04:13AM

    by mendax (2840) on Tuesday May 17 2016, @04:13AM (#347139)

    There are some missing options, such as packet radio, the electronic equivalent to a can-and-string. While I use DSL (until fiber comes to my neighborhood), if I had my druthers, I'd choose to use a palantir for my Internet access. ;-)

    --
    It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 31 2016, @02:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 31 2016, @02:08PM (#353053)

      Packet radio would be wireless, wouldn't it?

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 17 2016, @09:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 17 2016, @09:13AM (#347214)

    "I don't know how exactly. Whatever the neighbors are using."

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Webweasel on Tuesday May 17 2016, @02:03PM

    by Webweasel (567) on Tuesday May 17 2016, @02:03PM (#347298) Homepage Journal

    Ahhh the UK and BT.

    So BT had rolled fiber out to my village exchange. In the UK fiber is installed from the exchange to a "green box" on the street and is copper from there. So they upgraded everyone in the villiage. Great! Lets order it.

    "Your line is not enabled for fiber and there are no plans" WTF... The local exchange is upgraded and ready! Why can't I get fiber????

    Several months of emails to BT, the council broadband ground and I finally get told I am on a "Direct to exchange" line. There is no "Green box" on my street. The telephone copper wires run over the telegraph poles all the way back to the exchange. Its not far, about 1-1/2 miles or so.

    But, BT had no plans to replace these lines. This meant I fell into the 1-2% of the UK population that will never get fiber.

    I have to admit, that left me feeling rather peeved.

    I then get the BT vans driving around everywhere advertising the service I will never get... Double peeved.

    THEN we get a report in the news "BT has underspent £200 million of the rural broadband scheme" With £200 Million available, I don't see any excuse not to upgrade my line. Sorting out the 1-2% of the pop that cannot get it is the POINT of the money. I checked my mortgage document "Isolated rural property" Hmmmm.....

    Several emails to BT, the Council broadband group and eventually my MP. Then one to the Council group saying "I wrote to my MP, he will be contacting you."

    Surprise surprise: "We will now be upgrading all the direct to exchange lines in your village, work should be completed by December 2015"

    That actually means I can get FTTP.

    So Jan 2016 rolls around. Nothing "Theres been a delay"

    Its now mid may... The cables are on each telephone pole, down to a green box bolted to each one, but not connected to each other yet.

    So 4 months later I am STILL waiting for fiber.

    Excuse me, I think Ill go harass my MP some more.

    --
    Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
    • (Score: 1) by OrugTor on Wednesday May 18 2016, @04:04PM

      by OrugTor (5147) on Wednesday May 18 2016, @04:04PM (#347876)

      As a Brit in the US I find your story uplifting. I can understand the double peevity but the idea that an MP took notice and the Telecom giant responded is mind-boggling to us in the corporatocracy. Our only hope for broadband is Google. Actually our only hope for anything is Google and not much of a hope at that.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Webweasel on Thursday May 19 2016, @09:00AM

        by Webweasel (567) on Thursday May 19 2016, @09:00AM (#348231) Homepage Journal

        I have a little incite that gives me an advantage. My Dad is a local Councillor so he knows politics.

        I timed it so it was a month before an election, so the MP was interested in keeping me happy.

        Key to it was the phrasing. Listen to what the political class is saying at the time. There was a lot of talk about "Social mobility" so my correspondence was about how as an IT professional, lack of fiber was preventing me from founding my own business and therefore limiting my social mobility.

        Seems to have worked. He totally fobbed me off when I complained about the TV license people scaring old ladies though.

        --
        Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
        • (Score: 1) by OrugTor on Friday May 27 2016, @04:12PM

          by OrugTor (5147) on Friday May 27 2016, @04:12PM (#351645)

          Well played sir! Slightly less uplifting for me to know you need the skills of a CIA analyst to accomplish your extraordinary feat.

          So the license people are scaring little old ladies? In 'Murca we have volunteers for that. Saves the the taxpayers a few cents.

    • (Score: 2) by bitstream on Tuesday May 24 2016, @12:02AM

      by bitstream (6144) on Tuesday May 24 2016, @12:02AM (#350072) Journal

      Make sure you get up to speed on the cost especially the monthly one and any cost per bit or data cap tactics. Is there any hindrance to wire your own fiber to the exchange? The physical fiber cost should be something like 2500 GBP.

      • (Score: 2) by Webweasel on Friday May 27 2016, @10:26AM

        by Webweasel (567) on Friday May 27 2016, @10:26AM (#351531) Homepage Journal

        It's already being rolled out down the street, they just seem to be working 2 days a month.

        I got an update email yesterday, see the reply to my own post.

        --
        Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
    • (Score: 2) by darnkitten on Friday May 27 2016, @03:34AM

      by darnkitten (1912) on Friday May 27 2016, @03:34AM (#351416)

      Here in the rural US, my town had a monopoly telecom provider. A group of disgruntled customers from several towns formed a telecommunications committee and started inviting competing companies (wireless ISPs, etc) in to pitch providing services to our communities. The company, afraid of losing its position, sent the CEO out to promise us FTTP, cable-over-internet and a whole bunch of other things if we would stick with them.

      We got our FTTP and disbanded the committee. The ISP then sold off its cell division, which was then re-sold several times and then closed down (five years later, we still don't have cell service--we have two companies that serve the towns on either side of us, but neither will bridge the gap for fear that the other will benefit).

      ...And it turned out, after the local cable provider went out of business due to the cable-over-internet competition, that the ISP had oversold the capacity of the network infrastructure, so it can't handle the amount of media traffic currently needed. So we technically have FTTP, but at nowhere near FCC standards for rural capacity.

      ...And a wireless ISP came in eventually anyway, though it isn't putting in much effort to selling itself (It did give my library a free connection, so we can run our wifi separately from our wired network, so it was a win for us), so the competition hasn't really improved things.

      All told, a mixed bag, and a mixed lesson in citizen activism as related to capitalism. The End.

    • (Score: 2) by Webweasel on Friday May 27 2016, @10:31AM

      by Webweasel (567) on Friday May 27 2016, @10:31AM (#351533) Homepage Journal

      So I got an update email yesterday from the local county council broadband rollout group:

      Key Highlights:

      "Council is not happy with BT's progress"
      "BT are not experts at delivering fiber" -- wow, they are doing all of the fiber in the UK pretty much, this is worrying!
      "FTTP solution is half done, so won't be changed now" Well, that's good, means I get FTTP rather than FTTC
      "BT have told us work has been completed when it has not"
      "Poor record keeping by BT, properties are shown as enabled when they are not and vice versa" WOW BT can't even keep their own records straight!
      "Will be having a discussion with Openreach next week to assist the roll out, we will do a site visit to check the progress"

      So progress and BT are going to get an ass kicking (This is being raised to ofcom), But I still expect to wait another 6 months for fiber.

      We shall see!

      --
      Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
      • (Score: 2) by bitstream on Saturday May 28 2016, @08:55PM

        by bitstream (6144) on Saturday May 28 2016, @08:55PM (#352050) Journal

        Why wait for the BT snails? Just join forces with some neighbors and steam roll BT. What's needed is a fiber from your home to the Point of Presence (PoP) for the nearest ISP you can find.

        At least check where you have the PoPs physically and then check the cost for laying fiber. Eventually make use of some outdoor concentrator to join several subscriber fibers into a single one or a trunk.

        Checklist:
        Neighbor interest (and finances).
        Point of Presence locations.
        Fiber laying cost.
        Permits to dig.

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Friday May 27 2016, @10:51PM

      by isostatic (365) on Friday May 27 2016, @10:51PM (#351813) Journal

      At least you have copper broadband. My mother-in-law lives in a village without even 500k DSL [examiner.co.uk]

      Fortunatly she's at the top of the village where there's an intermitted 3G signal on 1 carrier in the loft. 2 houses down there's nothing and they're on satelite.

  • (Score: 2) by darnkitten on Thursday May 19 2016, @11:07PM

    by darnkitten (1912) on Thursday May 19 2016, @11:07PM (#348546)

    At work (the public library), our wired connection is via fibre (from our semi-monopoly telecom), but our wifi is through a donated wireless connection from a company trying to move into the area.

    Home is from the telecom's fibre.