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Creator of horrible puns I try to inflict on people daily. I haven't been voluntarily or involuntarily committed to a mental institution yet -- as far as I can tell. Despite programming in Java.
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Creator of horrible puns I try to inflict on people daily. I haven't been voluntarily or involuntarily committed to a mental institution yet -- as far as I can tell. Despite programming in Java.
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Tuesday November 02, 21
04:15 PM
Don't forget to VOTE![1]
Bu, bu, but . . . this isn't an election year, is it?
EVERY year is an election year.
If you have an opinion, ANY opinion, then VOTE!
Another option is to skip voting and post about how bad things are.
A better option I like is to vote AND whine online about how bad things are. The two are not mutually exclusive.
[1]be sure to conform to some state laws restricting by skin color, gender or income
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win-nt from the people who invented edlin.
-- MaDsen Wikholm, mwikholm@at8.abo.fi
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 02 2021, @05:33PM (47 children)
Citations needed. Seriously, you need to find some people who were denied a vote based on one of the criteria you mention. And, it doesn't count if some damn fool who hasn't voted in his life claims that he can't afford to drive to his polling place. Or whatever.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 02 2021, @05:54PM (43 children)
North Carolina court rejects Republican photo voter ID law as unconstitutional [reuters.com]
Supreme Court Declines Republican Bid To Revive North Carolina Voter ID Law [npr.org]
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 02 2021, @06:09PM (20 children)
Activist judges learn all the talking points quite well, don't they? There is definitely a drive on by progressives to ensure that voters can't be IDd before voting. It makes it easier to bring in all those absentee votes from the cemetery.
Next up, will be the claim that voter registration places an undue burden on poor, ignorant, uneducated black folk who can't read or write, and don't know where the registration offices are - despite the fact that they are automagically registered when they get a driver's license. You people can't see your own racist attitudes that blacks are all dumb fucks, and they need you to take care of them,
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 02 2021, @06:14PM (2 children)
Republicans in NC were just found guilty, by two separate courts of law, of purposely disenfranchising black people.
You can hand wave all you want but they are GUILTY of discrimination.
Owning a car is not a requirement to vote.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:33PM
Oh, I see. Therefore all Republicans discriminate against Blacks?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:35PM
Democrats in NC hanged black people until they were dead, in several separate events, and multiple, successful attempts to disenfranchise black people. They were GUILTY of discrimination.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @06:24PM
Thank you runaway for reminding us every day that you are pro-fascist. We've been over this topic a million times and you push back against any compromise, so the simple answer after multiple discussions is you want the discrimination but not the reputation hit you'd get here if you plainly stated your opinions.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday November 02 2021, @09:03PM (1 child)
When it is something that affects you: My Rights! My Freedoms!
When it is something that affects others: Talking points.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:38PM
It's the difference between their right to free speech, and your right to shut up and listen to them.
(Score: 5, Touché) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday November 02 2021, @09:35PM
Activist judges: judges that render decisions that I don't like.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:14PM (1 child)
Why would we need that, when we have Runaway to take care of? I think he is just afeared that the literacy requirement for voting will be reinstated, and disenfranchise both him and JD Vance. Hillbilly illiteracy. A mind is a terrible thing to lose. (VP Dan Quayle, R)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:53PM
I have it on good authority he hires illegals to read him the SN posts of the day and he dictates his posts. Pretty sad, very hypocritical, but I'm glad he's supporting some hard working folks.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @09:26AM (10 children)
Bullshit. Complete bullshit.
Let's apply the same standard the right uses for guns. First, demonstrate that voter fraud is actually a problem. Second, demonstrate that voter ID laws are both necessary to address the problem and sufficient to have a significant impact. The right to keep and bear arms is a basic right established in the Constitution. So is the right to vote. Let's apply the same standard. Let's see the evidence.
Here are the facts: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/2/21/18230009/voter-id-laws-fraud-turnout-study-research [vox.com]
Although voter ID laws may not actually reduce voter turnout, the evidence also says they don't improve election security. If we use the same standard the right applies to gun laws, we shouldn't have voter ID laws.
Voter ID laws often restrict the types of acceptable ID, so certain types of government-issued ID are valid while others aren't. It's usually necessary to visit the DMV to get the necessary ID. Of course, in places that tend to lean to the left and where more black people live, the DMV hours are reduced so there are fewer times when people can go get the necessary ID. This isn't accidental. The right is well aware of the statistics and are trying to add more obstacles so it's harder for black people to vote. As the right is fond of saying, statistics aren't racist. Although the voter ID laws are likely ineffective at actually suppressing the vote, it does not change the clear intent of the laws.
The right isn't interested in freedom or election security. The right is attempting to seize power by any means necessary, apparently even turning to violence and staging a coup. The propaganda machine is in place, keeping the true believers committed to the cause. The goal is to establish a Christian caliphate in the US, and to wage Christian jihad against the great liberal Satan. The truth has been spelled out to you so many times here that it's impossible for you to claim ignorance. The fact that you still support the right makes you complicit in their efforts. Congratulations on supporting the Christian ISIS, right here in the good ole US of A.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 03 2021, @11:58AM (9 children)
So, the laws are written specifically to make it hard for black people to get the proper ID? Meaning, of course, that because I am white, I have more freedom to visit the DMV, or whatever office offers acceptable forms of ID? Meaning, blacks are generally barred from entering the DMV and other offices? I call bullshit.
Most forms of ID are valid for 2 to 6 years. You're telling me that black folk are somehow constrained from visiting the DMV biannually. Or, even once in six years. There are some special circumstances associated with being black, that prevents black people getting these IDs.
Oh, since you're comparing voting rights to gun rights - you're only weakening your argument. A person with a weapon had damned well better be prepared to identify himself to police, as well as being prepared to cooperate with police. There are a lot of circumstances in which you might decline to identify yourself when an officer asks, but if you're carrying a weapon, refusing to identify yourself will probably result in a gun battle.
Why is it that I need to carry ID to exercise one right, while you insist that no one need identify themselves while exercising another right?
While we're here, I want to address your condescension toward blacks. Condescension that you are probably incapable of seeing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JGmKHrWKMQ [youtube.com]
Look at the expressions on those black people's faces. Listen to the tone of their faces. Maybe you should get out of your privileged white neighborhood, and talk to some black people yourself. "Why would they think we don't have ID?" Your stereotype of blacks seems to be that they live in rat warrens, deep down in the dark, seldom venturing into the light of day.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday November 03 2021, @05:12PM (7 children)
What part of "making it more difficult" do you not understand? Reduced hours at DMVs or even closing them at strategic locations goes hand in hand with the GOP voter ID plan to create roadblocks for groups that tend to vote for Democrats.
Never mind that actual voter ID is a non-problem. If voter ID is that damned important, then implement what Colorado does. They have voter ID requirements, and at the same time made it easy to have valid ID.
And please, enough of your projecting. You're not convincing anyone.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 03 2021, @05:59PM (6 children)
No, enough silly shit. If the DMV is only open 4 hours per day, it's going to create difficulty for everyone who needs to use the DMV. If it is targeting anyone, it's targeting everyone. Or, are you suggesting that if a white person comes to the door, the DMV will open the doors, then lock them again so that no darkies can get inside?
Did you watch the video I linked to? They interview black people on the street. The black people who are interviewed act shocked that anyone could think that a black person can't get an ID. Seriously, watch the vidya. After watching it, you can always come back and claim that all the blacks involved were paid actors or something.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Wednesday November 03 2021, @09:12PM (5 children)
Please note that it involves targeted "strategic locations" that always seem to be in areas primarily populated by blacks.
A Fox News clip talking to people in CA and NY is proof of your assertions? Perhaps it's because they don't live in a Southern state that pulls this shit?
How about they go speak with some black people in the South, who have actually been affected by these laws?
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday November 03 2021, @10:45PM (4 children)
I have invited citations of black people who have been denied the vote. I don't see anything on Youtube, or in the news, to substantiate the claims. I mean, if 300 black voters were chased away from the polling places in Macon County Georgia, there should be video footage, right? And if Georgia also purged 130,000 black voters from the roles, but didn't purge a single white person, that should probably make the news. And, if the DMV stayed closed until a white face arrived at the door, that should be documented.
Let's see the vidya.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @11:18PM (3 children)
What a straw man. There are no videos because doing what they really want to do would get conservatives in legal hot water. So it is all "invisible": shitty rules, people turned away at some plexiglass window, or not even being able to get there in time.
People have been saying this in reply to your commentary for a while, so again you're here pushing bullshit. Truly you are a despicable person, I can hardly manage to even pity you at this point.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 04 2021, @12:36AM (2 children)
Projection . . . you know what YOU want to do to black voters, so you project that onto conservatives.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @01:56AM (1 child)
No u
Racist fascist, probably redundant specifying racist. Doubt mant fascists are down with the rainbow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @02:29AM
I know you are but what am I.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @02:16AM
He who is without guns shall not make laws for those who do.
(To paraphrase a pink pussy hat protest from last week).
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday November 02 2021, @06:12PM (14 children)
All that registration bullshit is the real issue, that's where the discriminatory purges happen, not the ID requirement. If we are to believe that every citizen over the age of 18 is entitled to vote, then your simple state ID/driver's license (with a picture) is all that is necessary.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @06:27PM (11 children)
Yup! Many other states, including the blue ones, require ID. However, since the point is election security and not discrimination no one is much bothered by sane voter ID laws. That ruins their narrattive so they spin it as if liberals want zero security so their imaginary buses of non-citizens can defraud the election. It saddens me how shitty they are and how easily people are fooled into thinking it is actually about election security in those red states.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @08:59PM (1 child)
That Dems insist disenfranchise minorities but only in states where they don't win. Funny that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:34PM
[citation needed]
If so that only shows that dems can be racist too which I doubt anyone would argue. Keep the hot takes coming, I'm dehydrating form all them libruhl tears. I should get it checked out, probably shouldn't be laughing hard enough to become dehydrated.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DannyB on Tuesday November 02 2021, @09:43PM (5 children)
I had to show my ID today to vote. I don't have a problem with that.
My wife picked me up at work, took me to voting place so we could vote together, then returned me back to work. I have a big problem with a state making that simple thing illegal.
I didn't have to stand in any line. But if I did, why should it be illegal for someone to bring me a bottle of water?
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @01:18AM (3 children)
And so long as it's a poll worker and not a canvasser, where's that illegal?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @04:20AM (2 children)
Georgia banned that, for one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @04:34PM (1 child)
Georgia law explicitly exempts poll workers providing "self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote". Perhaps you should read it. [legiscan.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @10:28PM
And what part of that lets them bring you water? Those two verbs are very different. If I tell you to bring me something, it doesn't mean setting it in an unattended kiosk I might walk by, if there even is one. And better hope they don't run out or the line doesn't stretch for blocks because you are SOL when you aren't near your beloved "unattended receptacle."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:40PM
And what if I didn't want a bottle of water, but a pack of cigs or a bottle of JD? Or a C-note?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:51PM (2 children)
That's why the Civil War veterans vote absentee.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @02:02AM (1 child)
Is that why conservatives keep flying the traitor's flag, to make their fraud a little more believable?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @02:32AM
Don't Tread On Me.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday November 02 2021, @11:46PM (1 child)
Yes, this! The burden should be upon the state to prove that a person is ineligible to vote, not the other way around, in which voters have jump through hoop after hoop to prove they are eligible. It's quite hard enough to get people to participate in elections at all, even if there was no voter suppression whatsoever.
Sad that Jim Crow is still alive and doing far too well. Long time ago, I really thought such things were history. Thought the war against racism had been won. But now, in light of more recent research, bigotry looks like it could be instinctive. The less intelligent a person is, the more such instincts manifest.
Here's an idea. To increase participation, I should like the state to let children vote too. Let kids experience it. Give them specially marked ballots, so their votes can be counted separately. Their votes won't affect outcomes, but otherwise would work the same.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @01:35AM
For example this loser [babylonbee.com] - he's basically aristarchus.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @07:51PM (6 children)
Reports of Virginia Voter Suppression Surface as People Turned Away From Polls Over Not Wearing Masks [redstate.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:37PM (2 children)
Comply or die, pretty sure that is the mantra from Republicans. Wassa matter bubba, can't walk the walk?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:43PM (1 child)
Poor Joe can't walk any walk... he pooped his pants in front of the Pope.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 04 2021, @01:59AM
Soundsike an accident, gross but way better than a fatass wearing depends because he KNOWS he'll shit himself. Poor apprentice workers having to wipe shit off a grown man.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @11:21PM
Fake news, Runaway.
https://www.wavy.com/news/politics/virginia-politics/live-updates-polls-open-in-virginia-for-election-day-2021/ [wavy.com]
https://www.elections.virginia.gov/casting-a-ballot/accessible-voting/ [virginia.gov]
Masks are required to vote indoors in some locations. Those who refuse to wear a mask are able to vote curbside. Calling this voter suppression is dishonest.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @07:26AM (1 child)
Bear with me since I can be a little dense. But last I checked, but "not wearing masks" is not a "skin color, gender or income".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:45PM
As long as you're wearing you pussy hat, all's fine.
(Score: 2, Offtopic) by Mojibake Tengu on Tuesday November 02 2021, @07:41PM (2 children)
Here you go:
In Latvia, EU, in 2003 about 20% of population, that made about 450 000 people, were Russians nationality born in Latvia. Some for many generations. Today, it's still about 210 000/10% of population.
By the constitution law of so called democracy, those people are declared non-citizens, by the special law. They have to pay taxes of course, but they can't vote in any kind of elections, including elections to European Parliament.
They are democratically segregated as subhumans, without any political rights.
This is a direct result of western fake liberalism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-citizens_(Latvia) [wikipedia.org]
As usual on all such issues Wikipedia washes out the state bullying on those people. Shining Nazi past of state elites...
The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @08:12PM
I don't see the problem.
Why should people who don't belong to a country have any say in how it is run, just because they live there?
Yes, it's a shitty situation for them to be in, and it's not their fault that their parents or grandparents moved there during the Soviet occupation, but the unfortunateness of their situation does not magically make them Latvian.
You know what would make them Latvian? Naturalization, same as any other case.
The option is there; if they refuse it, or are unable to meet the naturalization requirements (e.g. don't speak Latvian), isn't that proof enough that they are not Latvian, and have no right to control the Latvian state?
Nonsense. Voting in a given nation is for that nation's people, not for all humanity. Denying it declares them "subcitizen", not subhuman.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:39PM
Found the Russian shill :)
Get fucked Vlad, go fix your own broken shit hole before commenting on ours!
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @05:45PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BqxArM3Vwk [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @08:35PM (5 children)
Thanks for the reminder, but I sent in my NY State absentee ballot last week. Since the local election board is kinda slow (like 2 weeks), any close election results will come in slowly.
One of the propositions on the ballot was to allow use of absentee ballots at will in future elections. The current deal in NY requires an excuse (disabled, out of state, etc). "Covid related" is temporarily allowed as an excuse, that's the excuse I used to get my ballot.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday November 02 2021, @09:07PM (4 children)
I just went and voted with my wife a few minutes ago. Got a sticker. You get to keep the thingy that is a touch screen stylus at one end and ball point pen at other end.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @01:22AM
So you vote on touch screens? Do you (Board of Elections) have a paper backup copy, or is it all electronic?
In NY we fill in small ovals on pre-printed paper ballots with pen/pencil. The first count is done by scanning the paper. Then the paper falls into a bin should a re-count be needed.
The absentee ballot is the same piece of paper, returned in a double envelope. Haven't been there to watch, but I understand that the envelopes are opened with representatives of both/all parties present.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:48PM (2 children)
Touch screen... the easier to flip, my dear.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday November 03 2021, @04:42PM
That's probably why only the Red States still use them.
Gotta love the guys who vote on machines without paper trails pretending to care about election security.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Wednesday November 03 2021, @05:14PM
The touch screen is where I sign when I get my ballot.
The inkpen end of the stylus is how I mark the ballot in ink.
Then the ballot is dropped into a machine which counts it right before my eyes, and I can see the ballot drop into a large cardboard box of other ballots after it was counted.
If there were any problem with the ballot, being improperly marked, etc, the machine would reject it.
If a minstrel has musical instruments attached to his bicycle, can it be called a minstrel cycle?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 02 2021, @10:00PM
(Sung to the tune of Mrs. Robinson" [youtube.com]).
Where I live, every local office is up for election (Hooray, term limits!).
I'm off to vote right now.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @08:41AM (3 children)
Virginia's results aren't a good sign heading into 2022. We're probably in a brief interlude before the far right gets power again. With a real majority in the Senate, Manchin and Sinema would be irrelevant. Manchin is misguided, foolishly hoping that he can bring back the bipartisanship of yore. Sinema is worse, more concerned with advancing her political career than doing what's right for the country. We touched the hot stove by electing Donald Trump. We didn't learn our lesson and too much of this country is drunk on conspiracy theories.
I know that first season TNG wasn't good, but I'm reminded a bit of The Naked Now, when essentially drunk officers started dismantling systems in engineering. For the most part, the ship still worked, until some stellar matter got ejected their way, and they didn't have the ability to get the ship to safety.
It's a lot like how the Trump administration and far right members of Congress seem to view things, gutting our institutions and eroding democratic norms. They don't care to understand why things work the way they do, and why those systems are in place. In the case of democratic norms, they're a nuisance to be abolished. The problem is that things seemingly continue to function for awhile after the damage is done. But when there's a crisis, we're not able to respond because the systems that were in place have been dismantled. For example, Trump gutted our pandemic response, but we didn't notice there was a problem until the pandemic started.
Like the crew of the Enterprise, too many of us are essentially drunk and not paying attention. We're drunk on conspiracy theories and culture wars. If Virginia's election results are any indication, it seems we're willing to put these buffoons back in power even after seeing the damage they caused. If we give them power again, they will be emboldened and vengeful, more destructive than ever.
God help us, because we're too stupid and too drunk to help ourselves.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @02:48PM (1 child)
When you far left loonies base Anerica's future on lockdowns, dole-outs to people thus prohibited from working towards their dreams, and indoctrinate our children that racism is natural and good when applied against whites, then this is what I expect to happen.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @05:19PM
Lol Q-moron, though to be fair Republicans were into fairy tale conspiracies long before Q came along to make you so nuts it is very hsrd to believe. Were you in Texas waiting for JFK Jr. to come back from the dead?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 03 2021, @03:16PM
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: Democratic Party suffers debacle in gubernatorial elections [wsws.org]