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Friday September 02, 22
03:39 PM
Among the items the FBI retrieved were 90 empty folders marked classified or for return to the White House staff secretary or a military aide, according to the inventory list.
Where did those docs go; Donny?
FBI releases list of materials seized from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home
90 Missing Classified Documents Amongst Haul from Mar a Lago
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I think that I shall never see
A billboard lovely as a tree.
Indeed, unless the billboards fall
I'll never see a tree at all.
-- Ogden Nash
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @03:43PM (6 children)
Totally unrelated I'm sure!
The CIA sent a top-secret cable warning agents that too many informants were getting killed or turned into double agents, report says [businessinsider.com]
(Score: 5, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @04:00PM (5 children)
If I was a whiny little bitch I would complain about some kind of mod squad but I'm not fusty enough for that!
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @04:14PM (4 children)
Actually, if I recall correctly, it was hemo who went on a crusade over some perceived mod squad that was out to get him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @05:05PM (3 children)
Then proceeded to cherry pick bad downmods to prove ideological bias. That crusade? I member. Then the great purge wiped nearly all records.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @05:58PM (2 children)
More importantly, by casting themselves as victims of mod bombs it frees them up do do as much mod bombing of their own as they like.
That's Semi Fascist playbook 101!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @08:37PM (1 child)
:-) As always, your presumptuousness precedes you. Since I don't downmod anybody (I leave that to you weenies) you can keep me out of your little charade there, or not, who the hell cares?
Now then, why is Trump not in jail? Where's the indictment? Tread lightly we must? Be careful, the light of discovery shines very brightly, so stay in the shadows, keep your secrets close, alright? A little birdie tells me a settlement is on the way.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:00PM
No one accused you bruh, your not teh main character bruh.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @03:52PM
In total, he stole over 10,000 records. [nbcnews.com]
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @04:12PM (21 children)
Just as important, what was in those docs? Seriously, if I was trying to assess national security damage right now, I would want to know exactly what information was in those docs. Why the hell is Donny not right now seated in an uncomfortable steel chair in the middle of a bare cinder block room with a few big, burly dudes standing over him, demanding some answers?
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @04:17PM (17 children)
Classified folders are marked with tracking numbers to identify what docs were stored in them. So the National Archives can figure out what USED to be in them fairly easily.
Figuring out where they went, not so much!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @07:27PM (16 children)
They are and those cover pages are also classified, unless Trump declassified them. Now... about the DOJ releasing those pictures???
And perhaps it's just me but I had the weirdest dream last night. Some demented idiot raising his fists and ranting about extremism while flanked by marines and a blood red backlight. It's the kind of visual that comes to mind when you see Peter Sellers slap down his arm in Dr Strangelove or we hear about semi-fascism. I'm sure it's nothing though.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @08:04PM
Only got released because his brilliant legal team formally requested their release.
Maybe don't ask for all this transparency if you actually want opacity.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @08:33PM (11 children)
No, this is a red herring. The cover pages themselves are not classified. I know this for a fact because I have a security clearance. That being said, in my experience, where I work we tend to shy away from showing cover pages in public: just the title of the document can trigger FOIA requests. But then, at this point there is no telling with how many people working for foreign governments Donny Tinyhands has been sharing these documents.
The fevered dreams you have at night mean nothing to me.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @09:09PM (3 children)
It is pretty hilarious watching the red hats get all triggered by the color red, though!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @11:26PM (2 children)
Ok, Boomer.
no one uses Red Hat; voluntarily.
All the cool kids use Arch or some derivative of *buntu.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @12:05AM
Why don't you cut him some Slack?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @12:20AM
There. FTFY.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:09PM (6 children)
Yes, that is why they are treated as classified. Note also that the subpoena was for documents "bearing classification markings" and not "classified documents".
Unsurprising, not even MLK's dream means much to the modern Democratic Party.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:26PM
Everyone who deals with classified information knows that you're a liar. We know the rules for handling classified. Either you don't or you're a lying son-of-bitch.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @10:05PM (1 child)
You obviously don't understand how classification markings work. Frankly, I'm not surprised.
This strikes me as a distinction without a difference. Care to elaborate?
Oh, stop being such a whiny little bitch! Your persecution complex doesn't impress.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @04:15PM
"Classification Markings" would also include the covers with or without the attached documents. Sounds like they anticipated finding covers without the documents attached.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @05:57PM (2 children)
It was the democrat's FBI that killed him. Trump is right, they are monsters, back in the 60s many people would have agreed, but the magnetic poles have flipped since then
Flamebait
Democrat mod squad hard at work, trying to create a safe space for the Party
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 05 2022, @03:54AM (1 child)
Sorry, you've mistaken this journal for Runaway's and also mixed up which party is trying to create their safe space.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 05 2022, @04:39AM
Nope, no mistake, the downmods are primarily from democrats, desperately trying to control the narrative, but the desire for censorship is definitely bipartisan
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @08:54PM
Cover pages are not classified when removed from the classified material.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:10PM
Oh ho, suddenly the fascists care about bad optics? -- checks notes -- yup, D in office and fascists are losing their minds! Weird how they were all about excuses when the conman in chief used tear gas and riot police to clear a private church yard for his own photo op. Actual fascusm is no biggie for regressive conservatives, but some mean words calling out their fascism is LITERALLY HITLER. Please know the world is laughing at you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @03:15PM
You watched that Trump video too? That was just crazy. Who does he think he is? Runaway?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @04:27PM (1 child)
FBI agents search New York and Florida properties linked to Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg [cbsnews.com]
I mean....it COULD be a coincidences but it also COULD be where they find a bunch of the missing docs!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @04:32PM
They only need to find ONE.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @08:58PM
Let's Go Gitmo!
(Score: 5, Informative) by digitalaudiorock on Friday September 02 2022, @05:28PM (5 children)
I got thinking about all the talk of "damage assessment" around this mess, and it's pretty horrific when you think about it, primarily because a) There will likely be no realistic way to know who if anyone may have had access to any of this, and b) in many cases the feds may have no choice but to err on the side of caution.
I think that (b) above may be where the most damage happens, and there's likely not much choice in the matter. It's not like they can tell some agent or asset in the field that their identity was loosely floating around Trump's tacky palace with little or no security, but "we don't think anyone saw it, but then again, you might get killed.". The same could be true for things like surveillance and wire taps, which they may no longer be able to trust, because those under surveillance might know about it, but choose to leave everything in place to feed us false information.
That's some seriously ugly shit. In another decade Republicans would be screaming bloody fucking murder over anything a fraction of this magnitude...but here we are.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday September 02 2022, @05:56PM
Well it is true that 2016 was a different decade but I'm pretty sure that's not what you were going for!
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:06PM
Republican hypocrisy, a thing ever since they left Lincoln out of the party.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Friday September 02 2022, @11:42PM (2 children)
Thankfully, there's no way to duplicate those documents since cameras and xerox machines don't exist. /s
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 5, Interesting) by drussell on Saturday September 03 2022, @02:52AM (1 child)
That's why some of this stuff is only supposed to ever even be accessed or viewed in any way under controlled conditions with no possible recording devices, etc. allowed anywhere near. How Trump managed to actually abscond with a bunch of these documents is absolutely flabbergasting!!
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @01:53AM
Last time I used a SCIF, they didn't even let me bring in my own pen and paper. On my way out, they literally transcribed my notes into print after a person with appropriate clearance approved them and kept the original paper. That's how paranoid they were about the wrong information leaking out. If it wasn't in my head or the notes they gave me, I didn't have it coming out. I literally cannot imagine just walking out with the information, but the President probably gets a lot more leeway, especially from sycophants, than your average person.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @09:35PM (2 children)
Wrong question..
You're supposed to ask, "Where's the arrest warrant, DOJ? Why the foot dragging? What are you trying to hide?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 02 2022, @10:38PM (1 child)
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @12:08AM
I hear Gitmo has a nice Presidential Suite and a nice golf course if you ignore the mine hazard.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @06:23AM (16 children)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/10000-government-docs-classified-markings-seized-trumps-mar-lago-doj-s-rcna46064 [nbcnews.com]
This excuse deserves exactly zero sympathy. We knew the morning after the presidential election that Trump had probably lost the election. Within a few days, it was very certain, as the mailed ballots were counted. It was plainly obvious that Trump had lost. Preparations to move out of the White House could have and should have started then, back in the second or third week of November 2020. Nobody forced Trump to spend the next several weeks rage posting bullshit to Twitter and concocting absurd and easily debunked allegations of massive fraud. He chose to do this when, instead, he should have been preparing for a transfer of power to the Biden administration. This is 100% on Trump.
There was plenty of time to sort through documents, but Trump spent the time inciting an insurrection instead of behaving like a president. The task would have also been easier if classified information hadn't been mishandled throughout Trump's presidency. But we're supposed to believe this lame ass excuse that everything had to be packed up in a few days. Funny how this hasn't been an issue for prior administrations. The last one-term president, George H. W. Bush, didn't seem to have this problem. Of course, Bush accepted his defeat and peacefully transferred power to Clinton.
Sorry, we shouldn't accept the excuse that Trump was too busy committing treason against the United States of America to move out of the White House in an orderly manner. Cry me a fucking river.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @07:14AM (2 children)
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2022, @07:15AM (1 child)
Throw away the key!
Throw away the key!
Throw away the key!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @06:59PM
MAGA Tears!
MAGA Tears!
MAGA Tears!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @04:40AM (12 children)
Ask yourself only one question, Why is the DOJ treading so lightly? I say it's to keep their own skeletons hidden away from discovery in a trial. This is the real reason for all the secrecy and why he's not in jail already. This won't be the first case they abandon to "protect sources"
Biden says "semi-fascist".. What a wimp! Sure do miss LBJ...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @03:27PM (11 children)
Classified information remains classified even if you read it on the front page of the Washington Post. Why would they want to reveal classified information in open court? His ass is in a sling even without the classified documents. Watch him "flip" on everyone and their mother once he gets charged. Everybody under the bus!
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @05:46PM (10 children)
Yeah, the real danger is that he'll "flip" on his democrat accomplices. He has insurance, that's why he's not in jail already and why the DOJ has such a light touch. This can't go to trial, not a real public one anyway, it will remain "redacted" throughout the process, but none of that matters, reelection rates will remain stable at ~90%. All the speculation and craving for punishment by the audience is wanton masturbation for catharsis, a form of relief, like those old primal therapy sessions, and really a way to avoid seeing one's self
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @06:56PM (1 child)
I hope he flips on all his accomplices Democrat or Republican. We could use a good House/Senate cleaning.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2022, @11:49PM
Hey now, condemning republican criminals makes you un-Patriotic! You want to be a patriot dontcha boy?
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 05 2022, @12:52AM (6 children)
Troll
And this is how it works, ladies and gentlemen. All criticism of democrats is a "Troll for Trump". Dissent is simply not allowed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 05 2022, @04:38PM (5 children)
And you wonder why no one takes you seriously?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2022, @04:41AM (4 children)
Not at all. I understand perfectly. You ever wonder why 98% of you continue to reelect such low quality people into office and complain to me about it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2022, @05:36AM (3 children)
It's not so much the why but the how. Handling the mail volume that would come from those 155183000 individuals would be quite the task. No wonder you haven't posted in a while, fusty.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2022, @05:56AM (2 children)
Heh, be as silly as you want to be, doesn't matter to me, you can only blame yourselves for handing it all to the republicans, all your losses are your own fault
"Special Master" boy! did you fuck up there! Your feet are so full of bullet holes, be sure to count them all
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2022, @04:46PM (1 child)
Obama or Clinton for "Special Master"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2022, @05:24AM
Oh hell, who knows? Johnny Depp is as good as anybody
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 08 2022, @02:57PM
We don't have a magic (D) like you guys have the magic (R).
If any dems that helped with the insurrection, they should go to jail.
See how that works!