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Wednesday September 14, 22
03:58 PM
News

Texas health officials have missed a key window to complete the state's first major updated count of pregnancy-related deaths in nearly a decade, according to a report from the Houston Chronicle.

Officials say the data will now be released next summer, after the upcoming Texas legislative session. That means lawmakers likely won't be able to use the data until 2025.

Health officials say the reason they don't want to publish the data now is because it is not easily and readily comparable to other states' data, and they don't want there to be room for misinterpretation when Texas' data is released.

But politicians say the data is critical for understanding the role the state's abortion law could play in the future. State Rep. Ann Johnson (D-Houston), a member of the Texas Women's Health Caucus, spoke to the Houston Chronicle about the data delay.

"There are a lot of us that want to know whether or not pregnancy in Texas is a death sentence. If we've got a higher rate of maternal mortality, we sure want to figure it out," Johnson said. "You can't figure it out if somebody's sitting on the numbers, and that's my worry."

Texas delays publication of maternal death data until after midterms, legislative session

Texas is currently the 8th worst state in the union for infant mortality at 34.5 per 100k

If the numbers are terrible just cover them up!

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday September 14 2022, @04:02PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday September 14 2022, @04:02PM (#1271631) Journal

    If the numbers looked good they would ALREADY be plastered all over the headlines!

    If you're the 8th worst in the nation already imagine how terrible these must be!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @05:01PM (19 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @05:01PM (#1271637)

    "Facts don't care about your feelings."

    *facts contradict conservative narrative*

    "No not like that!"

    Republicans are lying scum that violate their own ideals and arguments, hell they even voted against their own bill because Democrats were on board. I'm sure fustykrick will be in shortly to whine about Democrats not being saints.

    Oh! Republicans also whining about ranked choice voting pretending like it is some liberal plot to steal votes from Republicans. Just insulting to their own base, but I'm sure very few conservatives will spend 10 minutes learning why RCV is better for the actual people, and worse for the entrenched authoritarians. Would help get the neolibs out too, but conservatives are stuck in the Us vs. Them mindset. Most pathetic dissolution of a society, anyone think we'll pull through and start working to mitigate climate disasters?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:12PM (11 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:12PM (#1271660)

      America needs to “move out of this age of stupidity”

      - Dem Rep. Says "We Gotta Kill" MAGA "Extremists [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:19PM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:19PM (#1271661)
        • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:38PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:38PM (#1271664)

          Except both you (and that cesspool you got your "quote" from) misrepresented the statement, which was (as is right on the page you linked -- I need a shower after visiting zerohedge):

          We’ve gotta kill and confront that movement

          Not "We've got to kill Republicans."

          I don't advocate killing people. I don't even support the death penalty.

          But as Ryan (and many others have pointed out) the tiny (maybe a few thousand?) set of folks who want to use violence to advance their political goals are not welcome in the US and we should make that abundantly clear to them, with long prison sentences. And that applies to anyone, regardless of ideology/political goals who believe that political violence is acceptable.

          As to those who don't use (or want to use) violence to further their political goals, have your say. If I (or others) disagree, I can have my say too. Then let the voters figure it our. You know, as defined in the US and every state constitution and amendments thereto.

          tl;dr: You're amplifying inaccurate, hyperbolic rhetoric designed to legitimize political violence. Please stop.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @11:05PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @11:05PM (#1271696)

            Now, if the guy had instead said, "We’ve gotta kill and confront the Nazi movement," would you still interpret it the same way?

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @11:21PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @11:21PM (#1271699)

              Now, if the guy had instead said, "We’ve gotta kill and confront the Nazi movement," would you still interpret it the same way?

              Yes.

              I'm going to assume that you're having reading comprehension issues, rather than assuming you're (for whatever reasons) trying to deflect or distract from my point, which I think I was pretty clear [soylentnews.org]:

              But as Ryan (and many others have pointed out) the tiny (maybe a few thousand?) set of folks who want to use violence to advance their political goals are not welcome in the US and we should make that abundantly clear to them, with long prison sentences. And that applies to anyone, regardless of ideology/political goals who believe that political violence is acceptable.

              I can use smaller words if you're still confused about that.

              • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @03:04AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @03:04AM (#1271723)

                I'm going to assume that you're having reading comprehension issues

                Bad call. You're going to assume an awful lot, based on nothing but your own bias. You don't support the death penalty, which is a giveaway. Funny thing about absolutes.

                I can use smaller words if you're still confused about that.

                Please do. Maybe start at 4pt, and work your way down from there.

                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @08:47AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @08:47AM (#1272957)

                  In the Loco Star State, they have a saying: "One pregnancy, one Ranger." Or, something like that.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @12:55AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @12:55AM (#1271711)

              Aren't they the same?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @10:13PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @10:13PM (#1271688)

          You say that like it would be wrong!

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @03:07AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @03:07AM (#1271725)

            That's what you get when you preach bigotry and racism. Like Joe's Evil Red Warlord Brandon speech.

            We need to talk about these brutal viral videos of black boys beating up white boys [notthebee.com]

            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @04:24PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @04:24PM (#1272141)

              Why are white boys so weak? I thought white cis+het boys were the supreme beans of the universe, only in contention with the white cis+homo wombbeans for that title!

              Fucking white pussies, a race of gaslighting lying thieves who think a backwards rural existence culturally appropriating Jewish history and religion with some damned fanfic about the Jewish messiah, while hating real Jews, is the pinnacle of economic development!

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 27 2022, @01:35PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 27 2022, @01:35PM (#1278730)

                They need to turn their testicle tanner up to 11.

    • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:31PM (#1271662)

      onservatives are stuck in the Us vs. Them mindset

      Do tell!

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @06:22AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @06:22AM (#1271741)

      Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) concluded her speech by saying the proposed abortion ban after 15 weeks is “literally a call to arms in our country.”

      - Democrat Sen. Mazie Hirono Issues ‘Call to Arms’ When Debating Abortion Ban [breitbart.com]

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:17PM (#1271838)

        Brett's Fart? That rag?

        When will rconservatives care about the truth? Currently seems like never.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:18AM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:18AM (#1271914)

        Maybe Mazie Hirono should instead spend some time figuring out why the sisterhood of the uterus and her proposal for gender discriminatory taxation is incompatible with abortion. It's quite amazing how difficult it is for bourgeois feminists to understand how self-defeating their crap is.

        But do not worry. The workers will take up that call to arms. For a general strike! All power to the rank-and-file!

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:31AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:31AM (#1271915)

          Put it back in your pants, "men's rights" boy! Nobody cares about your looser life! Yes, we are going to tax you for the abortions you made necessary, and if you don't allow for them, we are going to tax your for child support, school district levies, and a general circumcision tax for being a toxic male. Now, go die in a gutter, or a trench, or a Russian missile target zone.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @10:33AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @10:33AM (#1271950)

            lame

            we are going to tax you for the abortions you made necessary

            Why won't you also tax Republican women who vote against abortion for this?

            we are going to tax your for child support

            What has the Democratic Party done to protect children from not only COVID but monkeypox and polio now too? Why won't you also tax Republican women who vote against abortion for this?

            school district levies

            Why shouldn't Republican women who vote against abortion (and own property in this case) also pay these levies?

            The workers will establish gender equality, free abortions on demand, free childcare, enforceable and credible public health policies, and free healthcare, whether you like it or not.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @10:54AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @10:54AM (#1271952)
  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:39PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @08:39PM (#1271665)

    Well, Shirley, you must have some source of data that suggests there is something to cover up? Like, you maybe have data that shows just how often a pregnancy becomes life-threatening? Data showing that 1, 10, or 100 women have died because of the anti-abortion laws? No data? Hmmmmmm - Could it be that you are over reacting to something?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:06PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:06PM (#1271675)

      Are you being intentionally obtuse? The point of the DeathMonkey's journal post is that the data appears to be withheld from the public, presumably because Texas Republicans won't like what it says. So, why can't we all see what the data shows, then decide for ourselves what it means and what we want to do about it? Or is that just too much to ask of our elected representatives?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:26PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:26PM (#1271681)

        Or is that just too much to ask of our elected representatives?

        Seems to be, so few people are asking. Maybe if the issue had an effect on reelection rates, it might make a difference

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:34PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:34PM (#1271683)

          Maybe if the issue had an effect on reelection rates, it might make a difference

          Since dead mothers (except for some edge cases [newsweek.com]) and babies (dead or otherwise) can't vote, I'm guessing it makes no difference, eh?

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:41PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:41PM (#1271684)

            Yeah, I suspect that to the way of thinking of too many Republicans, dead mothers don't vote. Of course, what they are failing to see is that the grieving family and friends that they leave behind do. I can already see that this is not going to end well for Republicans.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @01:32AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @01:32AM (#1271712)

            I'm guessing it makes no difference, eh?

            I'm guessing it's up to the living to make it count, eh? There isn't anything that makes a difference to a dead person...

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:42PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @09:42PM (#1271685)

      Could it be that you are over reacting to something?

      I'd say that folks are just reacting to the lack of something -- that is the lack of data because public officials are refusing to release it.

      Whatever that data shows about pregnancy deaths, we want to see it.

      That's the issue here. Or are we going with the "ignorance is strength" [wikipedia.org] theme?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @10:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2022, @10:43PM (#1271694)

        Or are we going with the "ignorance is strength" theme?

        Why not? You go with what works, right?

  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @09:42AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @09:42AM (#1271761)

    You must not keep up with the news as well as you claim if you don't know the real reason. You see, they need to double check which mothers were black so they can remove them from the count since they don't count. [yahoo.com]. /s

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:19PM (#1271840)

      Ugh, GOP is filled with psychopaths.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @07:32AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @07:32AM (#1271938)

      Overall, according to Louisiana's Department of Health, "four black mothers die for every white mother" in the state. It outpaces a three-to-one ratio nationwide, which is already the worst in the developed world, Politico reported.

      ...

      So, if you correct our population for race, we're not as much of an outlier as it'd otherwise appear.

      He continued:

      Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.

      Sounds like he's right to me. Why not address the fact that black women die at more than three times the rate of white women?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @08:21AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @08:21AM (#1271942)

        Yes, why don't they instead of trying to sweep their bad numbers under the rug.

      • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @01:15PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @01:15PM (#1271968)

        According to the CDC, Black women are disadvantaged in their "access to care, quality of care, prevalence of chronic diseases, structural racism, and implicit biases" in healthcare.

        See? You fell for the GOP racist switcheroo. "Now I'm not being racist, I'm just trying to focus the high maternal death rate on black mothers."

        Chances of that GOP asshole ever having done a single thing for black women hovers around 0%. The racism is made worse by such paltry excuses, but looks like it worked on one sucker eager to gobble racist stats especially with some sweet plausible deniability.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @06:39AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @06:39AM (#1272079)

          Sounds like you fell for the DNC money switcheroo. Don't focus on fixing the expensive problems black mothers have, focus on the evil GOP.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @03:40PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @03:40PM (#1272130)

            Helloooo? McFly!? Why don't you make like a tree and get out if here!?

            Rrally McFly, did you not notice they are the same thing? Fighting Republicans is the same as fighting for black mothers. Ha, better luck next time butthead.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 18 2022, @02:32PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 18 2022, @02:32PM (#1272270)

              More like fighting for an intersectional (class excluded) communalist system that incorporates gender (as chivalry) in addition to "race," and we're just supposed to "trust" the Democratic Party that this will end well for Black mothers, or even be capable of resisting the Republican Party's Hegelian quantum tunnel to outright fascism.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:39AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @03:39AM (#1271917)

    Since the ignoble Runaway has restricted True AC posting to his journal entries, the number of comments has fallen dramatically, barely breaking 20 most of the time. But, the tone has not been any less spanky, since after all, they are Runaway journal entries. All praise to DeathMonkey for supporting and enabling free speech on SoylentNews.
    .
    Oh, Abbot has been flying all the dead mothers to Martha's Vineyard, for some reason that has nothing to do with OJ and Trump lawyer, Alan Dershowitz. [lamag.com]

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @04:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @04:05AM (#1271923)

      Looks like the Dem mod-squad is trying to bury the truth, again! Mod the parent up, men! For great gusto!

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @08:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2022, @08:49AM (#1272958)

      You are confusing him with Jeffery Epstein, RIP.

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