"Its cumulative death rate of 95 per 100,000 people is the worst of any nation."
I won't berate you for your selfishness, Monkeyman. But, academically speaking, wouldn't it be best to squash the disease where it is doing the most harm? For all the alarmist fear mongering reporting, the US really isn't all that hard hit. The death rate in 2020 is just about equal to the death rate in - uhhh - 1988 I think.
Oh yeah - about that death rate. It's going to increase in the coming years, with or without more COVID deaths. All those Boomers, you know. Right now, the last of the boomers are over 60. Soon, they'll be dropping like flies. And, there is nothing that can be done to prevent it.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:23PM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:23PM (#1122936)
I won't berate you for your selfishness, Monkeyman. But, academically speaking, wouldn't it be best to squash the disease where it is doing the most harm?
Only Runaway could be this dense. Such a level of stupidity cannot but be intentional. The harm covid-19 is doing in the US is far, far greater than what it is in Kenya. Arkansas itself is a shit-hole of covid-19! And, as Mexicans say, "Poor Runaway! So close to Texas, and so far from God!"
Africa: 105 783 deaths; the five countries reporting most deaths are South Africa (50 647), Egypt (10 995), Morocco (8 682), Tunisia (8 225) and Algeria (3 013). . . . America: 1 249 895 deaths; the five countries reporting most deaths are United States (524 979), Brazil (266 398), Mexico (190 923), Colombia (60 598) and Argentina (53 121).
Now, Runaway is a moron and ignoramus, what is your excuse?
Well, if you want to reverse that death rate trend, you can start procreating. We have a lopsided population today, with a lot of old people, and few young people. If you care to pull up Japan's historical death rates, you're certain to see the same thing happening there. Old people have a high death rate, it's a well known fact of life.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:51PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:51PM (#1122970)
Old people ate living longer than ever before. By the time the 60-year-olds reach 80, their life expectancy will be 100 - a long as they don’t go into a nursing home. Those places will kill you. Fortunately most people don’t end up there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 12 2021, @08:18PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday March 12 2021, @08:18PM (#1123366)
This is not accurate. It depends on exactly who is measuring (e.g. the UN and CDC give slightly different results) but the US reached its peak life expectancy sometime from 2010-2015 and it's been on a slight downward trend since. Keep in mind the headlines about US life expectancy increasing for the first time in 4 years (back in 2018) were about a year-over-year increase, not an increase over what we reached previously.
I think people mistake why life expectancy increased in the past. It's not because medical technology improved, for the most part, but really simple stuff: clean food, clean water, no wars killing off 3% of the Earth's population at a time, transition away from higher risk manual labor, declines in smoking, and stuff along these lines. Medical technology that wasn't present 40 years ago has had a very small overall effect. This is why when you look at the list [wikipedia.org] of countries by life expectancy lots of countries you might not expect are ahead of the US: Slovenia, Greece, Kuwait, Costa Rica, Chile, Peru, Colombia, Panama, Croatia, Turkey, etc. Or for instance why Cyprus has the 6th highest life expectancy in the world.
And similarly the reason Japan is the longest lived is not because of some incredible medical technology but because they're willing to consider things we never would for instance the Metabo Law. Individuals over the age of 40 are regularly measured, and employers/local governments are fined for employees/citizens who have larger than regulated waistlines - 80cm for men, 90cm for women. And individuals who overweight are sent to counseling and retraining. And it works, obviously. But it requires the sort of culture that cares more about reality than ideology. We're, by contrast, going in the exact opposite direction and doing everything we can to make people feel okay about being fat - and we're paying the price for it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 14 2021, @06:55AM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday March 14 2021, @06:55AM (#1123927)
You are truly a horrible person. You worship death, and you seek to solve this deficiency by enslaving women. May the fate you wish on others take you to your next life.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 15 2021, @05:44AM
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday March 15 2021, @05:44AM (#1124317)
May the fate you wish on others take you to your next life.
Let's lay Runaway1956 pregnant in this life, eh? Chained to the kitchen stove, to cook for all of us. By God, pregnant or not, Runaway1956 may actually like it.
With or without the COVIDS, we are going to be leaving you all on your own soon. You're going to miss us when we're gone, primarily because you won't have anyone to blame for all your problems.
-- Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @10:38PM
(3 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Thursday March 11 2021, @10:38PM (#1122984)
DeathMonkey... #America1st did we live to see the day?
The concept of "charity beginning at home" is more noble than the oft-repeated "I got mine" dismissal allows. As Gregor Samsa discovered, you cannot be of any use to others if you cannot look after yourself. Somebody once told me of a concept like this in Buddhism but I don't recall the exact details.
It's not selfish. If Operation WarpSpeed™ and a forward-functioning economy allows the US to distribute the vaccines to the rest of the world at close to cost it's approaching selflessness.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 12 2021, @01:13AM
(2 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Friday March 12 2021, @01:13AM (#1123034)
It's unusually pro-America.
To be fair though, it is also anti-freedom and anti-capitalist. It's authoritarian. It's support of a command economy, as found in Venezuela and other shitholes.
Sometimes values come into conflict. Some people flip a coin. What wins out, communism or hatred of America?
The people with the most money got in line first and the vaccines makers can sell to whoever they want. It may be crappy but it's definitely not ANTI-Capitalist!
Nah, you've been against the home team on every possible issue so far, so we're giving your dose to someone else like you really want. Especially since you blasted Trump for buying up all the doses for the US just a few months back.
Mea culpa. You did not in fact bitch about him buying up all the Remdesivir. That was every other blue partisan hack on the planet. Hope you missed your chance to while doing something enjoyable rather than from illness.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:03PM (15 children)
I want to mail my vaccine to some needy person in - ohhh, Kenya? Bolivia? Vietnam? I don't care too much where.
Wouldn't the vax do the most good wherever more people are catching the disease? How about Peru?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/this-is-the-country-covid-19-has-hit-the-hardest/ar-BB19rP8i [msn.com]
I won't berate you for your selfishness, Monkeyman. But, academically speaking, wouldn't it be best to squash the disease where it is doing the most harm? For all the alarmist fear mongering reporting, the US really isn't all that hard hit. The death rate in 2020 is just about equal to the death rate in - uhhh - 1988 I think.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate [macrotrends.net]
Oh yeah - about that death rate. It's going to increase in the coming years, with or without more COVID deaths. All those Boomers, you know. Right now, the last of the boomers are over 60. Soon, they'll be dropping like flies. And, there is nothing that can be done to prevent it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:23PM (3 children)
Only Runaway could be this dense. Such a level of stupidity cannot but be intentional. The harm covid-19 is doing in the US is far, far greater than what it is in Kenya. Arkansas itself is a shit-hole of covid-19! And, as Mexicans say, "Poor Runaway! So close to Texas, and so far from God!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:39PM (2 children)
Citations needed for all of your assertions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:48PM
(Score: 5, Interesting) by aristarchus on Friday March 12 2021, @01:19AM
Citations given.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/30/fact-check-coronavirus-deaths-africa-far-less-than-u-s/3766222001/ [usatoday.com]
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1170530/coronavirus-deaths-in-africa/ [statista.com]
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33075535/ [nih.gov]
Now, Runaway is a moron and ignoramus, what is your excuse?
(Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:33PM (7 children)
We managed to reverse 33 years of progress in a single year. Nothing alarming there!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:35PM (1 child)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday March 11 2021, @11:18PM
He didn't say which 33 years
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:37PM (4 children)
Well, if you want to reverse that death rate trend, you can start procreating. We have a lopsided population today, with a lot of old people, and few young people. If you care to pull up Japan's historical death rates, you're certain to see the same thing happening there. Old people have a high death rate, it's a well known fact of life.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:51PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 12 2021, @08:18PM
This is not accurate. It depends on exactly who is measuring (e.g. the UN and CDC give slightly different results) but the US reached its peak life expectancy sometime from 2010-2015 and it's been on a slight downward trend since. Keep in mind the headlines about US life expectancy increasing for the first time in 4 years (back in 2018) were about a year-over-year increase, not an increase over what we reached previously.
I think people mistake why life expectancy increased in the past. It's not because medical technology improved, for the most part, but really simple stuff: clean food, clean water, no wars killing off 3% of the Earth's population at a time, transition away from higher risk manual labor, declines in smoking, and stuff along these lines. Medical technology that wasn't present 40 years ago has had a very small overall effect. This is why when you look at the list [wikipedia.org] of countries by life expectancy lots of countries you might not expect are ahead of the US: Slovenia, Greece, Kuwait, Costa Rica, Chile, Peru, Colombia, Panama, Croatia, Turkey, etc. Or for instance why Cyprus has the 6th highest life expectancy in the world.
And similarly the reason Japan is the longest lived is not because of some incredible medical technology but because they're willing to consider things we never would for instance the Metabo Law. Individuals over the age of 40 are regularly measured, and employers/local governments are fined for employees/citizens who have larger than regulated waistlines - 80cm for men, 90cm for women. And individuals who overweight are sent to counseling and retraining. And it works, obviously. But it requires the sort of culture that cares more about reality than ideology. We're, by contrast, going in the exact opposite direction and doing everything we can to make people feel okay about being fat - and we're paying the price for it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 14 2021, @06:55AM (1 child)
You are truly a horrible person. You worship death, and you seek to solve this deficiency by enslaving women. May the fate you wish on others take you to your next life.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 15 2021, @05:44AM
Let's lay Runaway1956 pregnant in this life, eh? Chained to the kitchen stove, to cook for all of us. By God, pregnant or not, Runaway1956 may actually like it.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:37PM (2 children)
Soon? Half a million people have died in the US from COVID. Take a wild guess at how those ages skew...
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday March 11 2021, @09:41PM (1 child)
Did ya look at the chart at the link I gave? Here's the link again:
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate [macrotrends.net]
With or without the COVIDS, we are going to be leaving you all on your own soon. You're going to miss us when we're gone, primarily because you won't have anyone to blame for all your problems.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @10:21PM
Not true, Runaway. We will still blame you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 11 2021, @10:38PM (3 children)
DeathMonkey... #America1st did we live to see the day?
The concept of "charity beginning at home" is more noble than the oft-repeated "I got mine" dismissal allows. As Gregor Samsa discovered, you cannot be of any use to others if you cannot look after yourself. Somebody once told me of a concept like this in Buddhism but I don't recall the exact details.
It's not selfish. If Operation WarpSpeed™ and a forward-functioning economy allows the US to distribute the vaccines to the rest of the world at close to cost it's approaching selflessness.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 12 2021, @01:13AM (2 children)
It's unusually pro-America.
To be fair though, it is also anti-freedom and anti-capitalist. It's authoritarian. It's support of a command economy, as found in Venezuela and other shitholes.
Sometimes values come into conflict. Some people flip a coin. What wins out, communism or hatred of America?
(Score: 3, Touché) by Subsentient on Friday March 12 2021, @03:28AM
Historically, those two go together pretty well.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday March 12 2021, @06:15PM
The people with the most money got in line first and the vaccines makers can sell to whoever they want. It may be crappy but it's definitely not ANTI-Capitalist!
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 12 2021, @12:23AM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/11/europe/astrazeneca-vaccine-denmark-suspension-intl/index.html [cnn.com]
(Score: 2, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday March 12 2021, @04:48AM (3 children)
Nah, you've been against the home team on every possible issue so far, so we're giving your dose to someone else like you really want. Especially since you blasted Trump for buying up all the doses for the US just a few months back.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday March 12 2021, @06:12PM (2 children)
I blasted Trump for lying about doses that didn't exist. Bit of a difference there...
Trump administration accused of deception in pledging release of (nonexistant) vaccine stockpile [reuters.com]
Also, if Trump is so proud of his Operation Warp Speed and the vaccine why did he get secretly vaccinated?
Donald Trump, Melania Trump secretly received COVID-19 vaccine in January [usatoday.com]
Seems like something you would publicize if you were so proud of it...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 13 2021, @03:09AM
IOW admission, you're a dickhead!
(Score: 1, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday March 13 2021, @01:42PM
Mea culpa. You did not in fact bitch about him buying up all the Remdesivir. That was every other blue partisan hack on the planet. Hope you missed your chance to while doing something enjoyable rather than from illness.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday March 12 2021, @08:26PM
Is it being distributed, or is it rotting on the shelf?
Ok, two, kinda. Anybody have an answer?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..