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Linux user. Tries to keep feeding the brain with stuff. Husband and father of a young lady and a younger son who has autism/is autistic... that nut didn't fall far from this nut-tree, I'll tell ya: he gets it honestly. Now if only he'd sleep..............
I believe that God gave us the science, curiousity and intelligence to one day conclusively prove that God does not exist.
The CBC has grabbed a brain and got it moving again!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/cbc-baby-its-cold-reinstate-1.4941087
So the loud minority is starting to be drowned out by the usually silent majority: good for all those who have brains.
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So radio stations are banning "Baby, it's cold outside" because there are too many losers in the world.
My. God., People. Are. Stupid.
It's a really nice Christmas song about a girl wanting to stay with her man for....'cuddles', but she can't because society would call her a 'whore/slut' if she did.
She is wrestling with WANTING to stay but 'having' to leave because society is filled with losers.
Look:
"I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry
My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Well Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some records on while I pour
The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no, sir - Mind if I move a little closer
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ahh, but it's cold outside
C'mon baby
I simply must go - Baby, it's cold outside
The answer is no - Ooh baby, it's cold outside
This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in
So nice and warm -- Look out the window at that storm
My sister will be suspicious - Man, your lips look so delicious
My brother will be there at the door - Waves upon a tropical shore
My maiden aunt's mind is vicious - Gosh your lips look delicious
Well maybe just a cigarette more - Never such a blizzard before
I've got to get home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your coat - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Your eyes are like starlight now
But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Making my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that old out
Ahh, but it's cold outside
Baby it's cold outside"
Read it!
There are no rape drugs in her drink: she's making an excuse for not leaving, just like in the lines:
"But don't you see
There's bound to be talk tomorrow
At least there will be plenty implied
I really can't stay"
She wants to stay, but feels she can't.
Only stupid people could object to this song.
Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid people.
My. God.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 05 2018, @10:54PM (15 children)
ROOFIES
RAPE
MISOGYNY
PATRIARCHY
I think someone linked this controversy here a few weeks ago. Or I saw it on Google News. Has it been taken out of the small pool of songs that those Christmas radio stations run 24/7?
More radio stations ban 'Baby It's Cold Outside' amid #MeToo controversy [usatoday.com]
End the War on ‘Baby, It’s Cold Outside’! It’s Feminist — Really [variety.com]
Ohio radio station pulls controversial holiday song, and KC station gets complaints [kansascity.com]
Could the "Baby it's Cold Outside" controversy hurt #MeToo? [wkyc.com]
Yup, this is really happening. Kek.
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(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday December 05 2018, @11:33PM
Yup, they turned that ONE line into rape, instead of her just using it a a reason for not leaving.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 05 2018, @11:36PM (13 children)
Yeah, it is a bit stupid. The assumption is that the woman is refusing multiple times and the guy won't take no for an answer. The contextual reality is that the song is actually about real romance and in this case the woman is saying no only out of anxiety about what society will think. She wants to stay but says no because she is worried about what people will think.
At the same time I can see how the song might give the impression that it is OK for a guy to pressure a woman into sex. The contextual clues are actually few and far between in the song, and the song could actually be VERY dark if you look at it with suspicion. Woman keeps making excuses for why she needs to leave, such as:
I mean from the words she says no, but contextually we assume she wants to stay. Obviously the song's context makes it seem that the guy is just trying to let the woman know it is OK to say yes to her desire.
BUT from just the words of the song it definitely could be construed as supporting date rape. "The girl says no but she really means yes!"
So I'm torn between the two interpretations, but in the end if your kids are listening to this I can see why someone might be worried about the message they'll get out of it. Seems like it might be a 50/50 chance how some kid might take it depending on their own contextual experience.
The end result is that the meaning behind this song is arguably fluid and it could be a negative message for some people. The brains are not standing still, they are on hyper alert. Whether this is a good or bad thing is a tougher question.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday December 05 2018, @11:49PM (7 children)
That only works if you take a couple lines out by themselves and read them: if you look at the entire song it is clear she's just making excuses....she SHOULD leave because "at least three will be plenty implied" that she's "not a GOOD girl", but...
..SHE does NOT want to leave, hence excuse after excuse.
Whether they are just having coffee or it is leading to sex, SHE WANTS TO STAY, but she is also aware of the stigma of staying (even if NOTHING happens but they have coffee and conversation).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:08AM (6 children)
Assuming the context you are placing on it:
What if those excuses are actually reasons?
The man may not care about the social repercussions of her actions, but she is clearly considering them. Is it right for the man to deny her decision just because he knows what she "really wants"?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:27AM (4 children)
So your saying she needs HIM to tell her what is what?
SHE is making excuses NOT to leave, over and over.
She is clearly enjoying herself: she SAY so.
She could just leave, but then makes an excuse NOT to...a couple times.
HE doesn't want her to leave, but clearly SHE doesn't either or she would.
"I ought to say no, no, no, sir
At least I'm gonna say that I tried"
Or...just leave?....OR, maybe she likes him and doesn't want to: she only even thinks about leaving because she's worried about her rep, but CLEARLY she is thinking about saying "Feck it" to her rep, or she would just. leave.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:39AM (3 children)
I was the original AC not the one you just responded to. I tried to make it clear that it is a contextual issue, so your clarification of "context" is pointless. I would say just let people's hysteria work itself out, in this case you can make points for both contextual scenarios.
"or she would just. leave."
Sorry but no. Let me make it clear again, the context of the song seems to steer towards true romance, not some creepy date rape story. HOWEVER, from my own mother who was raped "a woman should just let it happen otherwise you might get murdered." My own mother explaining women's reality, and you have the gall to say "or she would just leave." There is way more to sexual assault than simple confusion and mixed signals.
So again, I take the positive contextual stance, especially after reading about the history of it; but I am capable of understanding why someone else might find it very disturbing. I think you should find a better hill to make your stand.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:49AM (2 children)
I'm sorry for your mother, but context?
She says over and over she doesn't want to leave: she says she SHOULD but she's ENJOYING herself and the only thing giving her pause is her rep!
Nothing about "Get out of my way" or "Let go of me".
The context is they are enjoying each others company and they don't want to separate.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:56AM (1 child)
I already said I agree with that interpretation of the song, I was just offering alternative contexts that others might feel are valid.
Gaaark, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
You can be mad about people trying to censor things they find offensive, but honestly the conservative "right" have been doing this forever with their version of morality.
Want to protest? Gather a bunch of happy old couples and go dance to that song in a park, at least it will improve your marriage as opposed to spreading the counter outrage.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:55PM
Just wanted to acknowledge that before pointing out:
This is whataboutism. The charge of hypocrisy equally applies to the conservative right and to third wave capitalist feminism. One goes further right, then the other follows. Then the latter outdoes the former with right-wing reactionary politics, and the former follows. These are merely two different brands of right-wing authoritarianism (see Altemeyer) that differ only in their opinion of which gender should be denied the exercise of political power. Both of them are antidemocratic, and both of them must be challenged.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:40AM
Anybody has the right to say what they want in a personal conversation, and there is no evidence the woman in this scenario is being detained with force.
Your questions get to the bottom of the hypocrisy in third wave feminism. There are many very good, objective reasons to simply never speak to somebody who may have been assigned the female gender at birth, especially if one does not have the wealth to afford a lawyer and an extended legal battle**. Feminists cannot want people who were assigned the male gender at birth to talk to people assigned the female gender at birth (regardless of capacity for pregnancy and childbirth*), otherwise they would not enact such draconian policies that define even speaking without being spoken to as a crime of sexual assault.
Let us not even get started on the inherent contradictions and craven fealty to patriarchal values and fascism revealed when feminists adopted "incel" as an accusation of essentially witchcraft.
* Aren't attempts by feminists to define a woman in terms of her body parts and practice gender essentialism sounding just a little like the bigotries that prompted the origins of second wave feminism? But, say the third wave feminists, we must define a woman in terms of her body parts, because how else will we apply our bigoted double-standard to a Canadian man who simply changes his legal gender marker without undergoing any other form of gender transition?
** Here too feminism shows that it is a movement that is not only bigoted but antidemocratic. It is no wonder that frat boys are undeterred by draconian policies on college campuses that are plainly in violation of Title IX. It is another way for the ruling elites to place the cost of their excesses on the backs of the working class.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:27AM (1 child)
I'm sure I did not spare a single moment of my childhood to think deeply about this song's lyrics. It was just a blur like the other 30-40 Christmas songs that are repeated ad nauseam this time of year.
If any music is going to make male kids start catcalling and pestering women, it would be the many misogynistic and highly sexually charged hip hop songs that are explicitly offensive. But even that genre has become a little more socially [thedailybeast.com] conscious [afropunk.com] lately. No, the real culprits are, as has been the case since prehistory, hormones and the desire for the pussy. Culture, psychology/fear, and the legal system merely amplify it. But it would be difficult to trace bad behavior back to this particular song. Like a kid or teenager analyzed the lyrics of this Codex XXXmas and decided to totally alter their behavior towards women, becoming more aggressive and pushy. And around every
Christmasholiday season, as the cold sinks into their bones, they hear this song repeated hundreds of times on the radio, and are gradually reprogrammed into catcalling rape bros.What we have here are some stink pieces written a few months ago (or maybe a couple [washingtonpost.com] of years [vox.com]) reaching the attention of some oversensitive (possibly scared of #MeToo) radio hosts/stations, resulting in this lame ban.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:00AM
Don't forget the female desires: as you say, sometimes women just want sex too.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 06 2018, @02:48AM (1 child)
This is why the US and Euro fertility rate is dropping. People are needlessly overthinking stuff. In fact, they've overthought to the point that no one gets laid anymore.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:55AM
I've had this same thought, but in regard to Japan. A common form of comic relief (I guess that's what it's supposed to be) in anime/manga/games/tokusatsu is for male characters to be frequently accused of some manner of perversion and for female characters to act like lunatics in response to perceived slights (bonus points if the same female characters were themselves guilty of kicking, pinching, kissing, groping, and being deliberately provocative).
FFS, who wouldn't want to stay in their parents' house forever?
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @03:12PM
I will believe people are actually concerned about this when they take rap off of the radio. The people complaining, even if they might have a good point about this song, are only doing it as part of their attack on the holiday season and not because they care about the children.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 4, Funny) by NPC-131072 on Wednesday December 05 2018, @11:50PM (11 children)
The future is female. A future free from sexism, ageism and speciesism. [usatoday.com] The world of old white men will soon be as dead as a dodo!
(Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:05AM (10 children)
From the article:
"start ‘bringing home the bagels’ instead of the bacon," the animal rights organization tweeted Tuesday.
The suggestions didn't stop at bagels: PETA tweeted a chart of "anti-animal" phrases with possible correctives.
Instead of saying "kill two birds with one stone," the organization wrote, why not "feed two birds with one scone?"
I'm allergic to gluten: how DARE they talk about bringing home something that could I'll me! Harumph! I should go out and buy some bacon right now to get back at them!
God. people. are. stupid.
Glad I (do seem to be) NOT human...humans are becoming pathetic.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:21AM
That's actually pretty funny.
PETA has some insane policies, but they have a very effective PR department that generates a lot of money.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:31AM
While eyeroll-inducing, they came up with some clever replacement idioms. Like grabbing a flower by the thorns. These could be inserted into the dialogue for someone's elf cosplay/roleplay.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:44AM (3 children)
I eat meat so don't get too worked up, but the meat industry is a pretty cruel thing towards animals that think and feel. Just because animals don't have human level intelligence doesn't mean torturing and murdering them is without moral implications.
Just because this realization throws a lot of your traditional world into disarray does not make it wrong. Eating meat causes animal suffering. You can either come to terms with that or continue being ignorant. At least have the courage to admit that your choices have negative consequences.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:09AM (2 children)
I realize that: yeah, animals get the crap end.
I was just making fun: as marketing, who knows...at least they might attract attention. But do they REALLY think they'll change the saying to 'bagel'?
If so, I say "Hrrmmmmmm....."
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(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday December 06 2018, @04:14AM (1 child)
And what about all the celiacs, hmmm? WHY DOES PETA HATE CELIACS!? THAT'S ABLEIST!
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday December 11 2018, @04:26PM
PETA hates me because I'm beautiful.
8+0>
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(Score: 2) by acid andy on Thursday December 06 2018, @11:45AM (1 child)
Also from the article:
What. The. Actual. Fuck?! I hear a WHOOSH bigger than a sonic boom! It's quite clearly those critics' own bigotry making them think it "diminished" the seriousness of those other forms of discrimination. It shows how deeply rooted their biases are--the strong belief that animals are fundamentally of a massively lower importance when making moral judgments. While PETA's approach on this topic is certainly whimsical and click-baity, speciesism itself is a real, deadly serious form of discrimination. People are just dismissing and ridiculing it as a knee-jerk reaction because they've already decided that they won't give such arguments (or the people that make them) serious thought.
Humanity doesn't want to allow speciesism to be a legitimate thing because it would just be far too inconvenient. We simply can't have people feeling guilty when they send their "livestock" off to slaughter or carve up their dinner, so better just to point and laugh, right? At this point I should note that I do absolutely recognize that many animals have much less capacity for thought than most humans and, at least in some cases, probably even have less ability to experience suffering to the same degree as humans. My position is just that that should never morally excuse inflicting suffering upon them and that it's morally wrong to treat them as objects. Consider also that humans exist across wide spectra of intelligence level, ability and capacity to feel but it's generally not seen as morally acceptable to take away the rights of those humans whose capacities are reduced. Therefore the same moral reasoning should be applied to the rights of animals.
Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 22 2019, @01:55AM
I would eat trisomic and other crippled, if it was not for the high risk of prion disease and the obvious illegality. it is not generally seen as morally acceptable but it is never adequately argued, where the worth come from?
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:10PM
I don't eat meat, but I sure don't feed my cat a vegetarian diet. ++ Wife is not vegetarian. ++ I eat unborn baby birds. ++ Steal milk from calves.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:18PM
Just think of all the unborn baby birds that people will be consuming with those bagels!
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:00AM (8 children)
This is obviously fiction and people will read whatever they like into it.
The song is from the second-person perspective, so the intentions of either person can only be interpreted. Other than the tone of voice, there are no other setting cues (e.g. body language or previous interaction history).
Does the woman want to go?
She says she does roughly nine times.
What is in the drink or what kind of drink did the man provide?
She expresses some surprise or skepticism about its content.
Is the man pressuring the woman or is he correctly reading all of her cues?
He is certainly persistent and makes it clear that he will be disappointed if she leaves.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:17AM (6 children)
"This evening has been so very nice.
Well maybe just a half a drink more.
The neighbors might think.
I OUGHT to say no.
At least I'm going to SAY that I tried.
Ahh, but it's cold outside.
This welcome has been so nice and warm.
Well maybe just a cigarette more.
You've really been grand
But don't you see
There's bound to be talk tomorrow
At least there will be plenty implied
I really can't stay
Ahh, but it's cold outside"
Doesn't sound like rape to me: sounds like she's making excuses for why she has to leave but hasn't yet.... because she doesn't WANT to. If she had no fear of what others thought, she WOULD stay without thinking twice about it.
If it was a date rape song, it would be:
No! - but baby it's cold outside
Help! - but baby it's cold outside
Someone help, I think hes drugged me - baby it'll be warm in my bed with you unconscious underneath me.
God, this song was written in, if I remember correctly, 1930ish... She doesn't want a bad rep but DOES want to stay.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:38AM (5 children)
My read on the song is that she enjoys the guy's company but decides that she should leave. The man is opposing her decision and pressuring her to stay.
From what I could gather from the wiki, the song is definitely not about date rape but the man is playing an antagonistic role (Wolf vs. Mouse). The writer wrote the song for his wife, which they would perform together, and it was clearly meant as a nice song.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby,_It%27s_Cold_Outside [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:55AM (4 children)
"Ah, but its cold outside."
Doesn't really sound like she's being pressured: sounds like an excuse to stay.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:28AM (3 children)
The man counters every statement she makes about leaving. Whether or not he was being forceful or if the woman conceded to his preference, he is clearly trying to convince her not to leave.
If he wasn't pressuring her at all to stay it would have gone:
"I really can't stay"
"Alright, it was nice."
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:59AM
"I really can't stay"
"Alright, it was nice."
I'm betting her response would be "Maybe just one more cigarette....then I'll leave."
He's saying "I want you to stay" as clearly as she's saying "I want to stay."
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(Score: 1) by Sulla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @03:19PM (1 child)
Buying a used car due to persuasion isn't rape. You can't fall for persuasion because you were forced, you must willingly go along with it. Women are thinking beings who are at least as intelligent as men, why do you treat them like children unable to take care of themselves?
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Tuesday December 11 2018, @04:22PM
Just thought about adding:
"This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in"
"This welcome has been - I'm lucky that you dropped in"
She's come uninvited: she's there because she WANTS to be there.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:38AM
I found this:
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/12/19/13885552/baby-its-cold-outside-feminist-date-rape-romantic [vox.com]
http://bigbutterandeggman.tumblr.com/post/154013148291/teachingwithcoffee-its-time-to-bring-an-end-to [tumblr.com]
We can clearly tell it's a sly joke about the alcohol content of the drink. But according to that source, it's about how low the alcohol content actually is. Also of note is how the song was written just 11 years after the end of alcohol prohibition. Today we could say, "Say, what's in this pipe|joint|spliff|bong?". :^)
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(Score: 1) by NPC-131072 on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:37AM
It's trans-exclusionary and may be offensive to the other 29 genders legally recognized in NYC or the other 69 gender identities [statista.com] available to Facebook users.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @12:51AM
Absolutely beautiful.
'nuff said! :)
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday December 06 2018, @01:58AM (3 children)
This is a Song of Celebration, very classy, for those great women who let us do what we want -- whatever we want -- whether they like it or not. Of whom, sadly, there are less and less. Doesn't it seem like less? If anybody saw the Subs Queue, there's the story of, our wonderful young people are having less and less sex. In the pussy, in the ass, in the everything. And I think Political Correctness has a lot to do with it. People are afraid to say "he and she" anymore. Because someone might say, "oh, what about the Transgender?" Right?
And so many folks stopped saying that beautiful little phrase, "Merry Christmas." You'd go to the stores, they'd have the red trees. Like we have at my Swamp White House (thank you, Melanie). But they wouldn't say "Merry Christmas." I ended the War on Christmas, it's OK to say "Merry Christmas" again. And it needs to be OK to hang the mistletoe. Or, you know, carry a piece in your pocket. And you hold it up over the person you want to kiss. And you just start kissing. I just start kissing them, it's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you have mistletoe, you can do anything. They let you do it. And so many times you have a a bang, the quick bang that doesn't count because, mistletoe. Could be a beautiful woman, could be a man. Someone in between -- or one of our amazing young people who possibly hasn't done it before. Someone that, maybe they don't want to, but they part their lips for you. And spread their legs for you. Because of the mistletoe, because it's Christmas -- so beautiful. They wish you "Merry Christmas." And you leave them dripping. Like when America was Great -- we're Making America Great Again. And that's something we're working very hard on.
I think the big problem this Country has is being Politically Correct. I’ve been challenged by so many people, they have put Political Correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else. I refuse to be Politically Correct. I don’t frankly have time for total Political Correctness. And to be honest with you, this Country doesn’t have time either. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:00AM (2 children)
Today's incels would push her out the door with her first observation/objection, then rage online about how evil women are. But, they aren't really involuntary celibates. They're afraid of women, so they voluntarily boot the chick out the door.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:30AM (1 child)
I will share with you the True Secrets of the incels.
The Fear is actually Involuntary because there is no free will.
Any lifelong incel could have Sex and lose incel status, but it is less likely than it is for normies, because of The Fear.
The Ugly but not Fearful incels could theoretically get laid, but they have to put in more Work. If the Work load is too high and the expense is too much, they will get rejected until they stop trying.
Prostitution is a criminal and disease ridden act, and is no substitute for pure and loving Sex.
Voluntary celibates may or may not be able to get laid, but they have gained an ideology and made a choice not to engage Sexually.
$metoo will only create more incels as barriers to Sex are erected and Trust breaks down between men and women.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday December 06 2018, @03:42AM
Well, there is no hope to recover from failing fertility. I'm too damned old to impregnate all of the lonely women in America. It would take at least ten of me to do the job. Maybe I should look into cloning . . .
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:07PM (5 children)
I was thinking, that's not such a bad song, what about Santa Baby? Then, I got the whole, "She's being coerced" to stay thing, I guess. Seems like a few decades worth of people didn't have an issue with the song, because you know it's a Christmas love song. Not a Christmas date rape song.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday December 06 2018, @06:41PM
Yeah, she's not being 'coerced': he DOES obviously want her to stay, but she JUST AS OBVIOUSLY wants to stay herself. Yup, no datey-rapey there.
I mean, why not ban the U.S. anthem talking about the 'land of the free' when that is obviously not true, just propaganda!
Peoples needs to chill. It's a beautiful Christmas song: compare it to some of the modern screechy, awful shit put out by the boy bands and Maria Carey et al..... THAT should be banned.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday December 11 2018, @02:23PM (3 children)
8 Christmas Songs That Are Totally, Terribly Sexist [bustle.com]
SANTA BABY, SANTA BUDDY: STEREOTYPES IN CHRISTMAS MUSIC [wordpress.com]
kek
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Sulla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @05:20PM (2 children)
On "I saw mommy kissing santa"
I thought the whole point was that it was dad dressed up as santa?
I was gonna quote some of the funnier stuff, but the whole article is sjw gold.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Sulla on Tuesday December 11 2018, @05:25PM (1 child)
Cant help it
I assume she has never been around little boys and girls. If my kids are given gender neutral playdough or legos they build trucks or guns and smash or shoot.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 4, Funny) by takyon on Tuesday December 11 2018, @05:29PM
That's only because the heteronormative preferences you unconsciously project have been brainwashing them since they were born! You absolute sexist!
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday December 07 2018, @05:34AM
and raise you a warm inside lyrics. Get to their lvl.
Hey Maria, Papa said
You better go to bed
Maria, Mama said
You better go to bed
And little sister said
You better go to bed
The older brother said
You heard what Papa said
You better say goodnight
You better shut the light
And Papa told you no
You can't go out tonight
But Papa didn't know
Maria had a date
And couldn't let him wait
So in a little while
She waited till the lights were low
She went out the window to her beau, and so
There's a lot of huggin' then
A lot of kissin' then
A lot of huggin' him
A lot of kissin' him
A lot of happy talk
A lot of moon above
But very little time
But very little time
To make a lot of love
To make a lot of love
Which is a normal thing
To make a lot of love
For it was summertime
When all the crickets sing
And in the summertime
When anyone's in love
The crickets sing a happy song
But they didn't do their repetoire for long
Suddenly the Papa came in
And then the Mama came in
And then the sister came in
And then the brother came in
And then the uncle came in
And then the cousin came in
An even dozen came in
And I can tell you this
It was a dirty shame
Because the Papa came in
And then the Mama came in
And then the sister came in
And then the brother came in
And then the cousin came in
And even dozencame in
And I can tell you this
Do-do-do-do
When anyone's in love
The crickets sing a happy song
But they didn't do their repetoire for long
Suddenly the Papa came in
And then the Mama came in
And then the sister came in
And then the brother came in
And then the uncle came in
And then the cousin came in
An even dozen came in
And I can tell you this
It was a dirty shame
Because the Papa came in
And then the Mama came in
And then the sister came in
And then the brother came in
And then the cousin came in
An even dozen came in
And I can tell you
...
"Crickets Sing For Anamaria", A. Gilberto, 1965, Brazil
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 14 2018, @01:48PM
The ignorant, repressive attack on Frank Loesser’s “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” [wsws.org]