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Gaaark
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Linux user. Tries to keep feeding the brain with stuff. Husband and father of a young lady and a younger son who has autism/is autistic... that nut didn't fall far from this nut-tree, I'll tell ya: he gets it honestly. Now if only he'd sleep..............

I believe that God gave us the science, curiousity and intelligence to one day conclusively prove that God does not exist.

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Friday March 29, 19
01:34 AM
Science

More evidence that dark matter DOESN'T BLOODY EXIST, and they should look behind the curtain!

https://phys.org/news/2019-03-dark-evidence-axions.html

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @03:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @03:22AM (#821647)

    Because it doesn't... No wait, because it isn't.. something like that

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @03:45AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @03:45AM (#821654)

    Gaaark is triggered by efforts to place constraints on dark matter.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Friday March 29 2019, @10:59AM (9 children)

      by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 29 2019, @10:59AM (#821729) Journal

      Gaaark is triggered by idiots who still believe in dark matter.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by FatPhil on Friday March 29 2019, @03:58PM (8 children)

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday March 29 2019, @03:58PM (#821858) Homepage
        We don't have enough evidence to say that it's either proved or disproved[*]. It's as valid a field of study, both as mathematical physics and experimental physics, as anything else was in physics 100-150 years ago. When amazing strides foward were made. I'm very dark-matter-skeptic, but I recognise that if pure mathematical physics makes a prediction that agrees with a result that a completely independent group of experimental physicists measured then there's something worth further study. Add to that otherwise-inexplicable lensing, and otherwise-inexplicable rotation curves, and not only do you have a theoretical transparency-time snapshot of theoretical existence, but right-here-right-now evidence for something that has the same properties. That's defnitely grounds for further scientific study. And if that's like Michelson and Morley's demonstration of the existence of the aether - a nice healthy disproof (until negated by LIGO), then great, that's science moving forward. Anyone who looks at the "science of the gaps" (as per "god of the gaps") and says "don't do science on it" rather than "do more science on it" is not scientifically minded, they're irrational.

        [* Can we say we've proved protons exist? Now we know they're just tightly bound bags of quarks, don't we have to admit that "proton" is just shorthand for a particular arrangement of other things - the things that actually exist (to the best of our models). There's no "proton" field, for example (and although there never was in those terms, our views from 70 years ago were expressible in quite similar terms (e.g. conservation of baryon number)), so there's no *thing* /the proton/.]
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        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 30 2019, @04:21AM (7 children)

          by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @04:21AM (#822220) Journal

          But where IS the mathematical prediction? Show me the formula for how much dark matter each galaxy needs for it to stay 'together'. From what I've seen there is no formula, just random guesses until the correct amount is arrived at for EACH galaxy looked at.

          McCullough HAS that formula, with QI
          http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]
          that predicts much more than dark matter does (even the emdrive that NASA and others says IS real)...what does dark matter predict?

          Dark matter was invented out of the blue just to save GR, and they had to come up with all these rules for it to follow because there was nothing else they could do.

          At least QI follows the scientific method, and has a formula to follow and use and is predicting things that ARE known....

          ...I dunno: I'd rather put my all my marbles into QI than dark matter ANY day. It may not be correct either, but it's a HELL of alot more scientific.

          Look at QI, look at the predictions, look at how closely the math fits what is observed: it left me much happier mentally than the garbage that is DM.

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          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday March 30 2019, @11:57AM (2 children)

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday March 30 2019, @11:57AM (#822303) Homepage
            Sean Carrol has a 5-part lecture series available for download. I think the relevant mathematical predictions are both in first lecture. It's been a long time since I've seen it, I'm planning a rewatch with my g/f real soon now, as it is literally everything you need to know about cosmology in X short hours (X ~ 8-ish). Sean's honest enough to present current best guesses as current best guesses, he's not forcing things down your throat as fact. There's one thing where he literally says "it's just a model, not everyone likes it at all, and I'm about 50/50 on the issue".
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            • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:21PM (1 child)

              by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:21PM (#822329) Journal

              Can't afford to buy it: if you see the formula can you post it?

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:00PM (3 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:00PM (#822305) Journal

            But where IS the mathematical prediction? Show me the formula for how much dark matter each galaxy needs for it to stay 'together'. From what I've seen there is no formula, just random guesses until the correct amount is arrived at for EACH galaxy looked at.

            That inconsistency is actually an indication that there is something like that rather than an alternate theory of gravity. MONDO and quantized inertia, for example, can't vary from galaxy to galaxy.

            • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:12PM (2 children)

              by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:12PM (#822325) Journal

              No, it DOES vary, just within the mathematical formula: dark matter varies in a non-formulaic way, as in you have to guess.

              Not very scientific.

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              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:08AM (1 child)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:08AM (#822628) Journal

                No, it DOES vary, just within the mathematical formula

                You just said the opposite:

                Show me the formula for how much dark matter each galaxy needs for it to stay 'together'. From what I've seen there is no formula, just random guesses until the correct amount is arrived at for EACH galaxy looked at.

                • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:43PM

                  by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:43PM (#822803) Journal

                  Ummmm, you were talking about QI not varying:

                  MONDO and quantized inertia, for example, can't vary from galaxy to galaxy.

                  I was saying the RESULTS from the QI formula DO vary as in by what is inputted into the formula. The formula does NOT change as in MOND which has 'fudge' factors (can't come up with the correct word).
                  Dark matter numbers vary as by the results of the GUESSES, because there is no formula to use for dark matter.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @12:04PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 29 2019, @12:04PM (#821744)

    Look, dark matter is to (astro) physicists what a god is to those who are religious. It cannot be seen yet it affects everything in a profound and overwhelming way.

    Do not be fooled by dark matter any more than you wish to be fooled by <insert your deity of choice here>.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:00PM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:00PM (#822304) Homepage
      The effects of something that is describable as "dark matter" absolutely *have* been seen in every possible sense of "seen" that you might be using. Learn some physics, and some metaphysics.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:04PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:04PM (#822306)
      How many protons and electrons have you "seen"?
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @08:08PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 30 2019, @08:08PM (#822462)

        Depends on what type of acid I'm on.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:05PM (4 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @12:05PM (#822308) Journal

      Look, dark matter is to (astro) physicists what a god is to those who are religious.

      If that were really so, then religion wouldn't be a big deal. One doesn't make fancy buildings and gather once a week in them just to make sure dark matter is happy. It's be more like "I don't know why my car goes. Must be God. Hmmm, I wonder if I can go faster, if I put more God in it?"

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:16PM (3 children)

        by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 30 2019, @01:16PM (#822327) Journal

        God exist for the scared: they attend church because they want something from God or they fear God will do something to them if they don't.

        The unknown frightens them and God is the hedge in their bet.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:06AM (2 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @04:06AM (#822626) Journal

          God exist for the scared: they attend church because they want something from God or they fear God will do something to them if they don't.

          Doesn't sound even remotely how dark matter is treated which is my point. If we were treating God like we were treating dark matter, then someone would be figuring out how to get more God into the combustion chamber for better performance.

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:45PM (1 child)

            by Gaaark (41) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:45PM (#822804) Journal

            Ah...my bad.

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            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:54PM

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @07:54PM (#822807) Journal

              Ah...my bad.

              I think the better example is epicycles. It's adjustments of theories that we know should have a better explanation.

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