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Howard wrote “that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.” https://www.14thamendment.us/articles/anchor_babies_unconstitutionality.html
Journal of Runaway1956 (2926)
Pope derides Biden's abortion views, Catholic self-identity as 'incoherence'
Pope Francis said the president should check his conscience and consult his bishop or parish priest.
Pope Francis questioned President Biden's conscience on Tuesday in an interview during which he described the commander-in-chief's religious identity and views on abortion as incoherent.
"A month after conception, the DNA of the fetus is already there and the organs are aligned. There is human life," the pontiff said in the interview with Spanish-language outlet Univision.
Asked about Biden — a self-professed "devout Catholic" who supports blanket legalization of abortion on the federal level — the pope dismissed the president as incomprehensible.
"A month after conception, the DNA of the fetus is already there and the organs are aligned. There is human life," the pope said in the Univision interview. "Is it just to eliminate a human life?"
He added that Biden should instead question his own conscience and consult with his bishop.
"I leave it to [President Biden's] conscience and that he speaks to his bishop, his pastor, his parish priest about that incoherence," the pope remarked.
The pope has been hesitant to directly meddle in politics since the beginning of his papacy — afraid to devolve the Holy See into a normal, secular world power.
Instead, Pope Francis has taken a more pastoral role via his encyclicals and apostolic journeys — many historic in content.
The Holy Father is currently finishing preparations for a trip to Canada, after which he has committed to visiting the war-torn Ukraine. The first-ever apostolic journey to Moscow is also currently being discussed, should Russian authorities allow the visit.
Pope Francis's resistance to handing down orders to leaders of other nations is not a new concept.
According to Catholic Canon Law, bishops are the final governing authority in their diocese unless the pope personally intervenes.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, "A diocesan bishop in the diocese entrusted to him has all ordinary, proper, and immediate power which is required for the exercise of his pastoral function except for cases which the law or a decree of the Supreme Pontiff reserves to the supreme authority or to another ecclesiastical authority."
The office of bishop comes with extensive responsibilities and powers. Perhaps most prominent is the bishop's responsibility for the pastoral care of Catholics and ex-Catholics in his jurisdiction.
According to canon law, "A diocesan bishop, frequently preaching in person, is bound to propose and explain to the faithful the truths of the faith which are to be believed and applied to morals."
Canon law continues, "He is also to take care that the prescripts of the canons on the ministry of the word, especially those on the homily and catechetical instruction, are carefully observed so that the whole Christian doctrine is handed on to all."
However, the pope may not see the canonical corrections he desires for Biden without intervening — Biden and his family attend Holy Spirit Church in the Archdiocese of Washington, DC.
The archdiocese is overseen by Cardinal Wilton Gregory, who has gone on record saying that he would not excommunicate a politician for defending abortion rights.
The cardinal has been so averse to addressing the issue further that his office accidentally let slip that they are "ignoring" questions from the media.
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., mistakenly emailed a reporter seeking comment on its position regarding the San Francisco archbishop's decision to bar House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., from receiving Holy Communion due to her stance on abortion after Pelosi reportedly took Communion in D.C. on Sunday.
"Just sharing for you to know what comes in," the email stated. "Email since Saturday, when I last checked the comms inbox has just been a couple of random people wanting to tell the Cardinal to bring down the hammer on Pelosi. Aside from Jack Jenkins at RNS, this is the only new media inquiry. It will be ignored, too."
Speaking about the responsibility of running one of the world's oldest living institutions and the politics that come with it, the pontiff was open about his exhaustion.
"The Holy Spirit gives you many fruits, but no one ever talks about the things that make you numb," the pope lamented. "And sometimes, you feel you are numb in the face of situations that should make you suffer greatly and make you move, without missing the opportunity".
I'm no fan of the Catholic church. I'm no fan of the pope. There isn't a lot that I like about Catholicism. But, it's long overdue for the church to call out it's hypocrites.
You cannot be a "devout Catholic", while advocating for abortion on demand. Democrats who try to do so are on par with the Republicans who voted against gay rights, then went to not-very-discrete locations to engage in homosexual relations.
Oh yeah, you can't be a "devout Catholic" and advocate for gay rights, gay marriage, gay adoption, either.
Wouldn't it be great if voters could key in on hypocritical lies told by politicians, and vote every hypocrite out of office? Both Biden and Pelosi would have been run out of Washington decades ago. Scores of others would have gone with them, from both sides of the aisle.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:23AM (64 children)
Obviously you don't like Pope Francis. He supports issues like gun control [npr.org]. If you prefer to hear it from the source instead of NPR, here's the same content [vaticannews.va] from the Vatican News Agency.
You're not citing Pope Francis because you're genuinely interested in what he has to say, but because his statement about Biden and abortion happens to fit your political views. After all, we're calling out hypocrisy here, so it only seems fair that I call out your hypocrisy.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:35AM (63 children)
I'm citing the pope, because the pope is the ultimate authority on the subject of Catholicism. As I've already stated, I'm no fan of Catholicism, or of the pope. But, the pope is obviously the authority on all things Catholic.
For Biden or any other politician to support abortion on demand, in defiance of the church's edicts, is nothing other than hypocrisy. This is the same sort of hypocrisy we saw with all the televangelists in the Protestant world, keeping mistresses and/or whores and/or boyfriends behind the scenes.
Can you not see the obvious?
I've already pointed out that hypocrisy isn't a Democrat only failing. Did you even read my comments?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:55AM (1 child)
But as you've said, you don't like Catholicism or Pope Francis. Why, then, do you care that someone is a hypocrite for professing to be Catholic? This is a thinly-veiled excuse for you to criticize Biden, which is what you actually care about.
I think Pope Francis' word choice of incoherent describes you well. You express your disdain for Catholicism until the Pope criticizes a politician you dislike. If you don't like Catholicism, why do you care that Biden is a cafeteria Catholic?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:07AM
Goddamned Polish Catholics, only Catholic as long as the Pope is a Pole. But once an Argetinian Jesuit gets in the role, the bail, like they know the will of God better than the College of Cardinals. You are stupid, Runaway, your religion is bad. You should get a new one. Now, about that rational discussion we were supposed to be having . . . . ?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @02:44PM (6 children)
The 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not plagiarize.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @11:10PM (5 children)
Runaway copypastas without giving citation, again? Is it too difficult, or he can't work through the spittle on his keyboard?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 15 2022, @04:59PM (1 child)
Citing the source of an article could seriously undermine its credibility.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @07:53PM
So, is this another zerohedge article? Color me not surprised.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 17 2022, @03:28AM (2 children)
Oooops. Did I forget the link? Imagine that.
Of course, some people aren't savvy enough to copy/paste a bit of the text into a search engine, to see what results they might find.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 17 2022, @11:04PM (1 child)
Yeah, I'm sure it was just an all so very innocent oversight on your part </sarcasm>
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 19 2022, @06:35PM
And Runaway is still hiding the source of this attack on Catholics? Is he a John Bircher? Or a Mormon?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:07PM (51 children)
Is the President of the USA there to do the best (as he sees it) for all Americans, and not what is best for the Catholic church? His religious beliefs have nothing to do with governing a country. There is a phrase you might have heard - Separation of Church and State.
If he had stood on a platform of representing the church then you might have a point - but he didn't.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:32PM (50 children)
The issue I've raised in hypocrisy, not what platform he ran on.
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24
One more time, Joe is a hypocrite when he tries to push that "devout Catholic" narrative.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:52PM (49 children)
He isn't serving 2 masters - the church and state are NOT related. He is only serving one depending on which role he is doing. What he may 'personally' believe in religion doesn't come in to the presidential role. The Pope is a very pragmatic man, he isn't making any such demands that you are suggesting.
You were in the military - how did you reconcile that with 'Thou shalt not kill'? You took the pay so you must have been a hypocrite then....? And if your retort is that 'you don't believe' then how can anyone expect you to speak authoritatively on the subject? As others have said - you are using it as a convenient excuse.
How about Padres in the navy, did you go accusing them of being hypocrites too? Are all those who die while protecting their country condemned to an eternal damnation? How does that jive with 'Greater love has no man than he lays down his life for others'?
If you don't understand the problem, you would be better off not raising it as you did, rather you should have asked others to explain it to you.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @04:53PM (41 children)
Perhaps you've dealt with aristarchus for too long. You simply don't talk down to me, janrinok.
I'm sorry you've been victimized by - shall we say - a mistranslation. The King James Bible uses the word "kill", most other Bibles use the word "murder". https://apholt.com/2015/03/17/thou-shalt-not-kill-vs-thou-shalt-not-murder/ [apholt.com] https://forward.com/news/6091/on-language/ [forward.com]
I've never seen a chaplain handle a weapon in any capacity. However, if he did, I would refer back to the mistranslation.
That's kinda funny, really. I expect monolingual Americans who have been raised with the KJV of the Bible to make that mistake. I don't expect it from multi-linguals from outside the American culture.
Let me assure you, I have never committed a murder.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @05:53PM (35 children)
I didn't. How many people have to tell you that you are wrong before you at least consider it a possibility? In a discussion it is at least usual to consider the alternatives that are presented to you.
There are 5 bibles in my house - none of them say murder. None of them are KJV.
I have lived in 4 different countries - you I will wager have merely visited them. The minimum is for 3 years the longest is for 20+ years. My current home I have lived in for 15 years. I have served in 5 others. I think I have broadened my horizons sufficiently.
Neither have I. I never claimed you or I had. They are still prepared to bless you as you go into battle with the sole purpose of killing somebody. I asked did you call them hypocrites? You still haven't replied. You choose bible translations as freely as you chose interpretations of the 2A. I'm sure that if you look you will find bible quotations in some version or other that will justify almost any crime if you take a particularly convoluted interpretation of it.
You have never said that you have killed somebody either. Are trying to suggest that you have?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:16PM (32 children)
Thank you. I have considered the possibilities. Members of the Catholic Church are forbidden to obtain abortions. Joe Biden claims to be a "devout Catholic". Joe advocates abortion. Therefore, Joe is not a "devout Catholic". I won't argue that he is, or is not, a Catholic, but his devoutness is clearly absent. And, if you bothered to read the article, the pope clearly points that fact out.
Joe has alternatives. He stop advocating for abortion. He can leave the church. Or, he can continue living his live of hypocrisy. He can also be excommunicated. I don't see any other alternatives at the moment.
That's nice. Do you read Hebrew, Yiddish, and/or Greek? Have you ever read the relevant Talmud and Bible verses in those languages? Perhaps you could translate the commandments directly? Maybe some other members who are literate in those languages might do so? I'm confident that the commentary and discussions that I have read on the subject are accurate.
I'll refrain from answering that question - but it's good that you so readily distinguish between killing and murder. There are people who are incapable of such distinction.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:52PM (27 children)
Where does Catholicism say that one cannot save lives? Some abortions do exactly that.
Where does Catholicism say that 10 year old girls who have been raped should suffer for the rest of their lives? Some abortions prevent that from happening.
There are plenty of other similar justifications.
Any politician is expected to consider all the possible outcomes and then make a sensible decision. Biden has done that and most people in the country agree with him. You think that makes him a hypocrite? I think you are very, very wrong and you will not even consider what I have written. You will simply rewrite your belief a different way. You are prepared to reinterpret the bible to support your version of being permitted to kill, yet in this instance you are sticking strictly to a view that many are now amazed that you continue to support it. You have either ignored, or failed to understand, what others are saying. Please Think!
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:05PM
That's the problem in a nutshell. It is MEN - not GOD - who have written the current bibles. They have been 'interpreted' to say what the person who was doing the translation decided it should say - whether through belief, payment, or other reward. Who wrote the bible that KJV was 'updated' from? Who wrote the one before that? When did the monks start translating stone tablets or parchments and writing them out in their very decorative writing and in a language that only a small group understood - that the majority of people could not even read? The people were 'told' what the bible meant to say.
And yet we are supposed to believe that every word in them is absolute truth?
Americans cannot even agree what the constitution is meant to mean. It is twisted and reinterpreted all the time. Yet you can believe that any religion is absolute and clear to understand yet has been reinterpreted for thousands of years. Even the Pope doesn't claim that.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:49PM (11 children)
Now you're touching on the issue as I've been presenting it all along. We need abortion laws similar to the EU. When the mother's life or health are endangered, rape and incest, abortion should be almost automatic. Maybe the doctor has to fill a form in or something, but he doesn't need dispensation from a court, or a legislature. Ten weeks, 13 weeks, 15 weeks, 20 weeks, no matter what term limit any state tries to apply, Democrats fight it. They don't want reasonable limits, they want 'abortion on demand' right up through the delivery date.
Country after country in Europe have stipulations that women should have counseling before an abortion. They are given all the options possible, apparently in hopes that they carry the baby to term, then adopt it out, or find help in raising the child. Here, Democrats reject any such counseling. Counseling would interfere, at least in some cases, with their industry of killing babies.
I've stated that the US and/or the states should establish their laws based on an amalgamation of EU nation laws. If we could do that, everyone could probably live with it. But Democrats won't compromise. It's abortion on demand, up to and through delivery. Democrats and abortion industry representatives have discussed infanticide, days and possibly weeks after birth.
Dismissing religion completely, infanticide is so abhorrent, I can't understand anyone advocating for it. How can anyone take a meat cleaver to a squalling little baby? Or, drop him into a juicer or blender?
I don't know where you got that information. If Democrats offer up a poll, they claim that 80% or more people approve their goal of abortion on demand. Fact is, ~3/4 of people DO approve of abortion in emergencies. That is not abortion as birth control, delayed until the third trimester, but emergencies. To save mother's life, rape, incest, that sort of thing.
Something like 60% approve of emergencies, as well as abortion up through the first 12 weeks.
Something like 50% approve of abortion, through 15 weeks.
It is notable that after viewing educational and counseling materials about abortion, all of those percentages drop somewhat. NPR has an article that goes into some of the complexity of opinions - https://www.npr.org/2019/06/07/730183531/poll-majority-want-to-keep-abortion-legal-but-they-also-want-restrictions [npr.org]
For the record, Joe Biden is firmly at one extreme. He advocates abortion on demand, right through the third trimester. He does NOT represent the majority, or even close to a majority.
And, back to the subject of the journal entry, Biden's stance is completely incompatible with the church's position on abortion.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:11PM (2 children)
Oh look, the ignorant redneck would rather the baby endure hours to days of extreme anguish and possibly kill the mother during birth than to give the baby a merciful end to the pain. Seriously, anyone spouting the partial birth abortion talking point is ignorant and cruel. Those late abortions already have full protections in place to safeguard against unnecessary abortions.
You are just cruelly ignorant, or worse, knowingly cruel because your priest told you GOD WILLS IT!
You are a sad ghost of what an American should be.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:17PM (1 child)
Your community college surely has a remedial reading course that you can take. Come back and read what I wrote when you've completed the course.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @10:46PM
Just because you manage to be a self-contradictory idiot spouting misinformation does not make that anyone else's problem. Resolve your own stupidity kplzthx.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @09:56PM (2 children)
The church has nothing at all to do with governing a country.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 15 2022, @08:10PM (1 child)
Keep telling yourself that. Voters religious views affect how they vote. Think a moment. The Latino demographic is increasing. Latinos are mostly Catholic. Latinos are going to generally vote as they are taught in childhood, and in school. Most of them are more conservative than liberal.
Of course, I rather like the idea that Joe Biden is helping to dig the collective Democrat grave, with his 'surge the border' bullshit.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 15 2022, @11:07PM
OK, you sit and worry about the future and Latinos. It has absolutely nothing to do with Biden or alleged hypocrisy. Sorry, I will have to dash - got to catch up with those goalposts.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 15 2022, @04:36AM (1 child)
A person can seek medical advice at any time - for any reason and from a suitably qualified medical practitioner of their choice - and it has nothing at all to do with anybody else. It has nothing to do with me. It is not my body. The doctor must give the best advice possible. If, in his opinion, there is justifiable medical reason for taking a specific action he may take it. If challenged, he has to justify his advice, decisions and actions to the medical board, rarely to a court of law - and most certainly not to a court of public opinion.
At no point is it my business. It is not your business either. Women are independent legal entities and they should not need somebody else's 'permission' to seek medical advice or for any subsequent action that is decided upon medical grounds. Those grounds might be physical, mental, or covered by any other medical discipline.
What is happening in the US is that women are being stripped of the right to be a legal entity, and the baying crowds of which you seem to have become a member are using one specific religion to justify their demands. Religion has nothing at all to do with government. It you argue that it does, start taxing those churches that want to have a say, and lets have votes for who can and who cannot represent those churches. I trust that America is going to allow other religions to have a direct say in government too?
Until then, medical care is a private matter between a woman and her doctor. The rest of us can all butt out.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @05:32AM
Wow! I am singularly impressed with janrinok's analysis of a (for some reason) controversial political topic in America! Maybe I will stick around, if reasoned responses like this, to the berzerkerganging Runaway, become the norm.
aristarchus
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 15 2022, @05:08PM (1 child)
There is another case you should include. But would be covered under 'When the mother's life or health are endangered'.
Late term abortions. If a women carries a baby to late in the pregnancy, she intended to give birth. Anyone wanting an abortion for "birth control" or "convenience" reasons would get an abortion very early. They don't want all the physical problems and discomforts (to put it mildly) that come with pregnancy.
If a women needs an abortion late in the pregnancy then something has gone dreadfully wrong. It is a tragedy for the entire family. The government (who should be smaller and have less regulation) should just butt out of it.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @09:41PM
The late term abortion stuff is conservative evil at its worst. Anyone that reads up on the topic immediately realizes everything you said, and finds out there are major obstacles to the procedure that make it even less likely to be done out of convenience. As you say apregnant woman would take action sooner, so I doubt there has ever been a woman that suddenly wanted a late term abortion. If they are truly that messed up they'll just have a bad fall anyway.
Using late term abortions to attack women's rights is the scummiest bit of political hackery around. Only a seriously dumb individual would think there is any good outcome in those situations, and the best excuse I can imagine is that they have blind faith that doctors could magically save the baby and mom from the horrifying medical reality.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 18 2022, @03:35AM
Abortion in European Union [wikipedia.org]
Add cheap, general and quick availability of medical services - such as ultrasound - and paid sick leave [wikipedia.org] and see where this gets you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:13PM (1 child)
In Catholicism, there is the principle of double effect. Basically, it involves a situation where one effect is positive and the other is negative. The positive effect must be a direct consequence of the action, and it also must be proportional to the negative effect. The negative effect must not be the intended outcome, merely a consequence that happens as a result of obtaining the positive effect.
Here's a fairly good Catholic explanation of the principle of double effect: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/answers/principle-of-double-effect-23224 [ewtn.com].
This is the relevant teaching on the matter, and it does apply to abortion. When continuing a pregnancy will put a mother's life in grave danger, the Catholic Church does not oppose doctors acting to save the mother's life, even if those actions cause the pregnancy to be terminated.
To understand the nuances of this principle, you'll need to read the link. It explains them better than I can.
I should also point out what being pro-life actually means in Catholicism.
From https://www.ncronline.org/news/vaticans-pro-life-chief-after-roe-catholics-must-also-fight-gun-control [ncronline.org]:
Immigration is also a pro-life issue. See https://www.americamagazine.org/issue/immigration-reform-pro-life-concern [americamagazine.org]:
To be pro-life also means opposing racism. See https://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/story/pope-prays-for-u-s-calls-racism-a-pro-life-issue/ [catholiccharitiesusa.org], where this quote is about Pope Francis speaking about the death of George Floyd:
Being pro-life does not only mean protecting the unborn. It encompasses many other issues, including more than what I've cited here.
How pro-life is Runaway1956 really?
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:11PM
Unfortunately, the answer appears to be not much, going by his past comments where he fantasizes about killing cops if they should ever come after his guns and Mexicans who he fears are going to have sex (and procreate!) with his women. As many have already pointed out, his rant about abortion is really just a convenient club with which to bludgeon his political foes. Is anyone really surprised by this?
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @09:41PM (11 children)
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/washington/lucy-collins/pelosi-were-not-going-negotiate-abortion [cnsnews.com]
The harridan thinks that she can ram abortion on demand through the House, then somehow force it through the Senate? No negotiations? No majority view? No democratic solutions? It's all or nothing. And, it will be nothing so long as she continues with that attitude.
And, again, how does she rectify that with her religion? I know she has already been denied communion, went somewhere else for communion, and I'm not sure what she's doing now.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday July 14 2022, @10:06PM
She doesn't - Her religion is none of your business and it is nothing to do with governing a country. They are entirely unconnected - except in your mind.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @10:22PM (9 children)
Why do you care so much about Nancy Pelosi's religion? You're not Catholic. In fact, you've said that you don't like Catholic doctrine, the Catholic Church, and Pope Francis. Whether or not Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden receive communion doesn't affect political matters. Why are you so concerned about whether Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden receive communion or not? You still have yet to offer any sort of cogent response to this question.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @11:01PM (8 children)
If you've read all through this journal, you very well know that it's all about hypocrisy.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @01:44AM (5 children)
Again, you haven't explained how the "hypocrisy" about Biden's private life affects you. Why should I care if he's a hypocrite about his religion? His religion isn't making policy decisions that affect me. Why do you care so much about something that is independent of Biden's policy decisions? How does this actually affect you?
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 15 2022, @12:49PM (4 children)
Do you routinely vote for people who are demonstrably hypocritical?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @06:09PM
They're politicians aren't they?
I'll take 99% less hypocritical for $800 Bernie.
Bernie: "This system of government has resulted in the highest rates of human happiness."
Winner: "What is democratic socialism."
Bernie: "Good job. Can we get a round of applause? Big round of applause, let's go."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @10:33PM (2 children)
Well, if you're running for office and looking for my vote, I'm definitely not voting for someone as hypocritical as you.
You are frequently whining about Democrats' views on abortion, saying you oppose them. But you also said that you voted for Gary Johnson in 2016, a candidate who strongly supports abortion rights [ballotpedia.org]. That makes you a... wait for it... hypocrite.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 15 2022, @11:19PM (1 child)
Johnson wasn't going to the White House, no matter how I voted. I used Johnson's name for my own purposes. I often vote Libertarian, because they are a third party. I want to see the two party system killed off, and I want to see anywhere from 3 to 12 parties seating congress critters. Ask anyone who has a parliamentarian government - it's hard to form coalitions that can ram bullshit through. If the Communist party could seat some reps in the House or the Senate, I'd vote for them. Greens. You name it.
The two party system sucks ass.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @03:11AM
Your position is that although you disagreed with Gary Johnson on abortion, this didn't matter because Johnson had no chance of being elected. You say it wasn't going to have any impact on policy and, therefore, it was irrelevant.
Joe Biden's religious belief and whether he receives communion also has zero impact on policy. However, you claim it's critically relevant.
I also believe that voting for Johnson may have an impact on future policy. Not all Libertarians are pro-choice, but your vote for Johnson implies that you are probably willing to also support future pro-choice Libertarians. That could have an impact on the party platform in the future, because you've indicated your support for pro-choice Libertarian candidates. Now, it's a bit of a stretch to say that one election will make a difference, but it's also a stretch to claim that supposed hypocrisy in Biden's personal life has a meaningful impact on his ability to govern his country.
You're contradicting yourself, Runaway. This issue is just a convenient opportunity for you to bash Biden, and you know it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @05:37PM
Your hypocrisy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 18 2022, @03:42AM
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/former-friend-alleges-ivanka-trump-had-abortion-when-younger/news-story/feead2615ec4a3b19d98324e7492b454 [news.com.au] vs https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/10/30/ivanka-trump-declares-she-is-unapologetically-pro-life-for-the-first-time/?sh=4e55565629fc [forbes.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @09:42AM (1 child)
Umm, it appears that Runaway believes that some of the Christian Scriptures were originally written in Yiddish. Should some one tell him?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 15 2022, @05:22PM
Would he listen?
The book of Daniel is partly in Aramaic. On the cross Jesus uttered a phrase in Aramaic which was transliterated into Greek. Otherwise the O.T. is in Hebrew and the N.T. is in Greek. Modern Hebrew versions of the O.T., just as if you read the Jerusalem Post today, are in Hebrew but use what is called the "babylonian script" which has block like characters with some letters having marks that rise above or below the line of writing. Just as lower case "y" in our alphabet descends below the line of writing. The script is simply the way the alphabet is written instead of using the ancient "font" if that is the right word.
What did the seven thunders say in Rev 10? John was about to write it down, probably in Greek, but he was told not to write it. Probably because it would be a spoiler.
From everything I've ever heard in my life the sixth commandment means "murder". If it simply meant kill that would prohibit even the old testament sacrifices. And require everyone to be a vegetarian.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @05:17PM (1 child)
"Members of the Catholic Church are forbidden to obtain abortions."
I must have missed it, when did Biden have an abortion?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @02:45AM
Holy carp, have we had the female head of state achievement unlocked this whole time?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @03:48AM (1 child)
"Shot a man in Reno,
Just to watch him die. "
In the "alleged" doxxing affair, janrinok has repeatedly said that one of the pieces of information that threatened the poor victim, was the church he attended. It would clarify things in this journal entry very much, if Runaway would just tell us what confession he belongs to. We could account for the recent anti-abortionism, the support for race-based slavery, and the antagonism to the Church Universal and Triumphant. What are you, Runsaway, Catholic, or Christian?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:18PM
Judging by the comments he regularly post here I would guess neither, unfortunately. Hopefully, the Lord will change his heart someday so that he repents. I'm actually praying for this.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:15PM
Ignorant moron. Not much other ways to talk to Runaway!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:25PM
Now that Runaway has "won" the turd fight with aristarchus he is back to his flamebait journaling. Given his attitude does anyone doubt that Runaway1956 is the "apk" spammer of racism and hate? His runaway persona is simply his *cough cough* polite persona. When he drops to AC posting he becomes vulgar, and with his pletura of virtual machines he bots, socks, and impersonates. He IS the pox on this site, give the identity politics domestic terrorist DAS BOOT!
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday July 15 2022, @05:51PM (2 children)
Personally, the King James is not my first source when looking at the old testament. I grew up with KJV. Most of the N.T makes sense even if the grammar is atrocious in places. In the O.T. there is much that is just plain opaque.
Just one favorite example is the story of Ehud killing Eglon in Judges 3 starting in verse 12. When the story gets to verse 24 what does "covereth his feet" even mean? A modern translation says "relieving himself" which is pretty clear to a modern reader.
Covering his feet is an idiom. Like kicked the bucket. Suppose I say "poor joe, he kicked the bucket". Now bury that in the sand for a thousand years and dig it up. The translators may literally translate each word. The modern reader may conclude that the most common meaning of poor is economics rather than the less common meaning of sympathy. And they know what kicked and bucket means. So they are left to conclude that Joe was poor, therefore out of anger he kicked a bucket. Completely losing the meaning. Because "kicked the bucket" is an idiom.
BTW, in this story in Judges 3, it is a good thing that Ehud killed Eglon. So the sixth commandment cannot possibly mean the more general "kill" as opposed to "murder". Otherwise the bible would mean we must be vegetarians and there would be no capital punishment or old testament sacrifices.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @01:10PM
Runaway at SoylentNews
Kiteo, his eyes closed
Chenza at court, the court of silence
DannyB and Runaway at SoylentNews
Kadir beneath Mo Moteh
Shaka, when the walls fell
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday July 16 2022, @02:14PM
It is understood - at least in this part of the world - that killing refers to people, not livestock. But that is perhaps another example of interpretation and linguistics. Animals for food are usually described as being 'slaughtered' and then 'butchered' etc
There is NO capital punishment here. We left that sort of thing behind some time back. The old testament sacrifices, along with lots of other earlier sins, were forgiven with the death and resurrection of Christ if one is of a Christian faith. If you are not then the Commandments are meaningless too, and this debate is irrelevant.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 15 2022, @05:27AM (6 children)
He was never anything more than a supply puke on account of his colorblindness, so he didn't do any (direct) killing. As to how he rationalized it? Simple: same way he rationalizes everything else, by reducing it to "fuck you, got mine." Runaway is not a particularly deep thinker.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 17 2022, @03:40AM (5 children)
Oh shit - 'Zumi is buying into ari's analysis of my service, and what shipboard life is like. You know better than that dummy: never follow ari's lead.
True, color vision prevented me holding a number of ratings that I would have preferred over supply ratings. But, do you think color vision interferes with small arms? An M-14 sights in just the same, no matter what color you think the target is.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 17 2022, @03:49AM (4 children)
Shut up and go fetch the coffee, Pointdexter. Leave the guns to the actual men on board the ship.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 17 2022, @03:56AM (3 children)
And, where do you think us supply clerks did our supply shit?
But, you go ahead, follow ari's lead, demonstrate your ignorance. You have zero idea how a ship operates, or how a crew functions.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 17 2022, @02:38PM
You have zero idea how a country operates, or how a government functions.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 17 2022, @06:53PM (1 child)
Not my department, Paulie =P You couldn't do my job either. The difference is, I'm not constrained from it by my own disabilities, and that is saying something.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 17 2022, @10:31PM
No, you relish and enhance and celebrate your obvious disabilities. And Certified Bedpan Inspector requires a 95-IQ. Anyone much sharper than that would tire of hiding from bed alarms. Go find a corner where you can stand and try to look busy while, playing with your phone, you sundowner wannabee.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @02:43AM (1 child)
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: Right-wing media, politicians seize on Ohio child’s pregnancy to promote reactionary anti-abortion agenda [wsws.org]:
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 16 2022, @11:36AM
Yeah - I was party to a conversation, in which the other party wanted to refuse to believe that a child could be pregnant at age 10. I had to point out that the onset of puberty determines how early a girl can be impregnated, not chronological age. I also pointed out that age 10 is not the earliest that puberty has ever happened. Every child develops differently, but we tend to forget that.
And, that case has gone from fucked up, to well and truly fucked up. The girl's mother is defending her illegal alien boyfriend? He's not a bad guy? Really? WTF? Seems like Mother may have been part of grooming the child for exploitation?
Then, we have to ask why portions of this girl's medical history was released. The abortionist turns out to be an activist, who seems to have decided that the hyppocritical oath meant little or nothing when the information could be used politically.
Among my comments in that discussion, I pointed out that a conspiracy theorist might believe the illegal alien was hired by the activist to molest the child, for the express purpose of getting the story published. We all know that Mexicans will do the work that Americans won't do, right?
Politics and conspiracy theories aside - there is a ten year old child, probably a fifth grade student in school, who has already lost her own child to abortion. Did she give the baby up voluntarily, or was she bullied into having the abortion? How badly is the child's mind fucked up, first by being impregnated, then losing the baby?
Lots of heads should roll here, starting with the guy who was screwing her, then the mother for apparently allowing it to happen, then the activist who used the child for political points. Other heads may need to roll as well.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:35AM (18 children)
You've repeated advocated for the death penalty or indicated your support for it. Here are examples:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=50402&page=1&cid=1260463#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=410127&sid=15828 [soylentnews.org]
Of course, Pope Francis disagrees strongly. He says the death penalty is inadmissible [nytimes.com] under any circumstances. His words include, "every life is sacred, every human person is endowed with an inalienable dignity, and society can only benefit from the rehabilitation of those convicted of crimes."
Pope Francis says being pro-life means opposing the death penalty in all circumstances. You, ehhhhh...., not so much.
I posted the first AC comment, too. Then I thought of this issue, too. I could find plenty of other examples where you strongly disagree with Pope Francis. This would include matters like immigration.
You don't really care what Pope Francis has to say. You're only interested right now because he said a bad thing about Biden.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:38AM (17 children)
Ahhhhhhhhh - you're making a point that is pointless. You see, I can oppose Catholic doctrine without being a hypocrite, because I'm not Catholic. Joe Biden, who claims to be a "devout Catholic" doesn't have the same options that I have.
Come on dude, get with the program. Or, take a course in remedial reading and remedial comprehension.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:12AM (16 children)
Actually, you oppose Catholic doctrine except when it gives you an excuse to attack political opponents.
Pope Francis exercise any power over Joe Biden at all. The issue that's being discussed is about whether politicians who support abortion should be able to receive the Eucharist. The Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ, which is why it is sacred. Of course, if you reject Catholicism (and presumably the Orthodox Churches, too), then you would say that the Eucharist is, as PZ Myers put it, a "fracking cracker."
Unless you believe that the Eucharist is actually the body and blood of Christ, meaning that you would be Catholic or Orthodox, why do you care if Catholic politicians can receive the Eucharist? Again, you only care because this is an excuse to attack your political opponents.
Pope Francis, of course, has criticized denying pro-choice Catholics the opportunity to receive the Eucharist when it's done for the purpose of making a political statement. Instead, it's supposed to be a measure taken to encourage those Catholics to repent. Of course, you would like it to be a political statement because it becomes another excuse to bash your political foes.
I'm just trying to decide whether "hypocrisy" or "incoherence" is the more fitting way to describe your comments.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:45AM (15 children)
I don't oppose Catholic doctrine - I see doctrine as pretty irrelevant. Catholics seldom live by doctrine, any more than Protestants do. Or Mormons, or Jehovah's Witnesses. Try reading my post again, and try comprehending it. The subject is hypocrisy, and how it relates to politicians. Especially how it relates to self professed "devout Catholics", but not just Catholics.
You're failing, and failing hard here.
More fail. The pope holds authority over the church. Biden, being a professed member of that church, is under the pope's authority. The pope can excommunicate Biden's ass from the church, on a whim. Remember, the pope is infallible. The pope has called Creepy Joe out here, telling Joe to shape up, or ship out. The church doesn't need it's membership undermining the church's authority.
So, uhhhh, it is your position that only Catholics and Orthodox bealieve that a cracker and some juice are magically turned into the flesh and blood of Christ when the minister recites his magical incantation over them? You should get out more, and meet some Baptists, and some fundamentalists. I can't speak for Mormons, or Pentecostals, or Jehovah's Witnesses, but it wouldn't surprise me if any of those believe likewise.
Read your own words that you have typed. The pope doesn't want communion used to make political statements. That is not the same as saying heretics are free to take communion.
Now, let's try this again. You cannot claim to be a "devout Catholic" while at the same time pushing for abortion on demand. That is, you cannot claim to submit to the church's authority, while working to undermine the church's authority.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:15AM
Pretty sure Runaway is an ammosexual Satanist, probably along the lines of the lesser Son of the Prophet Sun Yung Moon, and his Church of the Iron Rod (AKA, AR15) [wikipedia.org]. The other brother owns the oft cited by Runaway Washington Times. And, this Korean cult figured somehow in the assassination of ex-Prime Minister Abe [theguardian.com]. Never knew they had such a hold among the feckless of SW Arkansaws.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:26AM (5 children)
Once again, you show you don't have a clue about Catholicism. The only reason you care is because Pope Francis criticized Joe Biden.
Or the hypocrisy of someone saying Catholic doctrine is irrelevant, except when you can use it to attack people you dislike politically.
Nope, Catholicism doesn't teach that. Come back when you learn what ex cathedra [wikipedia.org] means. It doesn't mean that the Pope is infallible. It only involves matters of church doctrine, and only when the Pope invokes it. It most certainly doesn't mean that the Pope is infallible in all matters.
The term in Catholicism is transubstantiation. It means that although the "cracker and some juice" retain their physical appearance, they cease to be a "cracker and some juice" but instead are the body and blood of Christ. This is actually different from the teaching of consubstantiation that you're referring to, which means that it is simultaneously both a "cracker and some juice," and the body and blood of Christ.
Regardless, you believe it's a "cracker and some juice" based on what you've posted. You're not Catholic. Whether or not Biden receives the Eucharist has no impact on political decisions he makes. Why, then, do you care if Biden receives these at communion? It's not that you care about Catholic doctrine. In fact, you've said you don't care about Catholic doctrine. This is because you'll seize any opportunity and grasp at any straws you can to find excuses to criticize Biden.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @01:00PM (4 children)
If Biden weren't such a hypocrite, he could easily put this silly shit to rest https://www.rt.com/news/558958-us-abortion-pregnant-men/ [rt.com] Biden stands behind that nonsense, which only makes him a bigger laughingstock in the world than Jimmy Carter was.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @04:54PM (3 children)
I'm having fun watching you get schooled, and doubly so seeing comments like that where you just rant about Biden or Kamala thinking anyone really cares about the corporate sellouts. Sorry little guy, but we don't care aboit Biden the way you care about Trump. Git rekt ya traitorous domestic terrorist ;^)
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @05:03PM (2 children)
Get schooled? Yeah. Read over the thread again. Do you fall into the "thou shalt not kill" or the "thou shall not murder" gang?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:22PM (1 child)
Right. Runsaway cain't be "schooled" 'cause he is incapable of larn'ing. He only gets spanked in his journal.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @05:36AM
Did Runaway just cite rt.com, a completely Eastern Orthodox, and somewhat rogue in its support of the Russian attack on Ukraine, AGAIN??
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:46AM
In other news, Cardinal George Pell is back in the courts being sued by the parents of his alleged victim.
Of course they're pro-life. They worked out long ago only if you break your vow of celibacy with your *female* parishioners that babies are made.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @02:33PM (4 children)
Unlike Viginaway, the Pope is only infallible when he speaks "Ex Cathedra".
Biden is the President of the United States, not the President of Catholics.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:06PM (3 children)
https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--bqp_ZUsV--/t_Preview/b_rgb:000000,c_limit,f_auto,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1604713292/production/designs/15843502_0.jpg [cloudinary.com]
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:30PM (2 children)
That's what I expected from a traitor.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:33PM (1 child)
Wasn't it Democrats who made the meme?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:26PM
Regardless of who originated the meme, it still shows a woeful lack of understanding of our Republic. Runaway should be ashamed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @10:41PM (1 child)
Runaway is just pissed off that "Sleepy Joe" and the Dumbocrats were able to "steal" the election from "Super Mega Genius Trump" and the Republiscum.
Sleepy Joe is a lot smarter than Runaway.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 15 2022, @05:30AM
There are things that sunbathe on rocks and blink three times a week that are smarter than Runaway. And less reptilian at heart.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:19AM (1 child)
Nazi fuck Runaway1956 has destroyed SoylentNews. Used be be a nice place, before his near daily intentionally disruptive journals. He is stupid, uneducated, but just enough of a dick to keep at it, with his stable of sock-puppets and gangs of mod-bombers. Will not play this idiots game.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:53AM
The CIA, NSA and FBI know who Runaway is. He keeps on posting his ideas in public for all to see. I am sure they would thank him if they could. He provides a useful window into the thought processes of the alternatively patriotic.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by RamiK on Thursday July 14 2022, @12:35PM (3 children)
Contemporary Catholic church has mostly adopted the "ensoulment upon conception" theology (as opposed to the previous quickening [asu.edu] Greek philosophy). So, it's quite unusual for the current pope to introduce a novel "A month after conception, the DNA of the fetus is already there and the organs are aligned. There is human life." popular science based theology so offhandedly.
To give example of the ramifications, it changes the view of morning-after pills from abortion pills to contraception.
You can be devout about your Catholic faith while being wrong about your scientific or even biblical interpretations. For instance, that "the DNA of the fetus is already there and the organs are aligned" is just not true. Organogenesis of human embryos starts at 3 weeks and lasts well into the 8th and even 9th week while the alignment/positioning lasts for quite longer than that. e.g. the digestive system finishes around 12 weeks.
What's more important here, however, is that the Church's own scientific and canon law panels concluded ensoulment can't happen before the mind develops since there's no potential for rational thinking and decision making (free choice) until that happens. So, what may seem like a trivial mistake (4-5 vs. 8-12weeks) is actually critical as it leaves women without the opportunity to miss their period, do a pregnancy test and schedule an abortion. In fact, one has to wonder if the pope's mistake isn't the result of an advisory panel deliberately lying about the numbers when briefing the pope so he'll maintain the status quo...
Anyhow, it's pretty interesting to see the Church moving away from "ensoulment upon conception" nonsense. For reference, it wasn't until 1992 they concluded the earth was moving instead of the sun: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/31/world/after-350-years-vatican-says-galileo-was-right-it-moves.html [nytimes.com]
So, who knows? With any luck, we might live to see a day when the Church agrees the earth wasn't made in 7 days some 5000 years ago... That would be nice.
compiling...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @02:47PM (2 children)
You cannot be a "devout Catholic", while diddling kiddies.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @04:57PM (1 child)
That is perfectly correct. But, it appears that you can be a Catholic priest while diddling whatever you want to diddle.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:49PM
Now if only you Repugnicunts would stop emulating them! Seriously, do a search for pedophile and sexual criminal politicians and the overwhelming majority are Rs. Bonus points for them always voting against rules to protect minors, while of course howling like wolves about the need to "protect" the flock.
Republicans, fucking gross humans. If any Republican on SN thinks this is biased bullshit, just switch parties. Maybe help Libertarians grow up, but just abandon the party of white supremacists and pedophiles.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Spook brat on Thursday July 14 2022, @01:08PM (44 children)
Biden isn't being incoherent, he's doing the job we elected him for. As a president, his job isn't to impose Catholic doctrine via rule of law on the entire American population. It's his job to preserve the liberty of all his citizens to worship God (or not, if Atheist) as they see fit.
You also mention gay rights; you might be surprised that the U.S. Army has been in the lead on that issue. Commanders never liked "don't ask/don't tell" because it was bad for morale, and left the gay service members without support for their loved ones. Gay service members today get on-base housing for their partners, their children go to on-base schools, the entire family is covered by the service member's health benefits, and next-of-kin (partner/surviving children) receive life insurance benefits in the case of the service member's death. Nothing else makes sense if you want them to serve the country effectively - they have to know that their families are being taken care of back home.
If homosexuality and abortion are moral issues, then the federal government has no place elevating one religion's doctrine over another's via law.
It is 100% consistent with the President's oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States, even (especially?) if it conflicts with their personal beliefs.
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(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday July 14 2022, @02:42PM (26 children)
Homosexuality and abortion are moral issues. Except that in the case of abortion, it's about who has the right to say what happens to the unborn child. The unborn child has no say, because they can't make their own decision. As such, they should be protected as we strive to protect other children. Even "children" 17.9 years old (depending on your jurisdiction, it could be anywhere from 15-18) are unable to legally consent to sexual relations. Yet, we should assume that it's every woman's right to abort an unborn child? Homosexuality on the other, between two consenting adults, is their choice. Some like to say oh, but I have no choice, I'm just naturally this way. Whatever, so long as you are an adult, you're accountable for your own actions. Government should have very little to say about adults exercising their freedoms.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Spook brat on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:49PM (3 children)
You have correctly identified the root of the controversy. At what point is the unborn child a person?
RamiK just made a great post [soylentnews.org] outlining the various trains of thought just within the Catholic faith. Metaphysically, does the unborn child even have a soul at the time of conception? At first heartbeat? When organs finish positioning themselves? At first breath post-partum?
The medical community isn't giving much clarity here, either. There is no definite milestone we can detect that indicates viability outside the womb. So, based on that, when should we start providing legal protection to the unborn baby as a person?
If we start passing laws based on anyone's religious beliefs regarding when ensoulment may or may not occur we are running afoul of the First Amendment. We would make women with non-conforming beliefs into criminals because their dogma conflicts with the Lawmaker's. That's not what America is about - or, at least, not what I signed up to defend when I took my oath of service. And I struggle to justify the position that lawmakers have any constitutional right to say what happens between a mother, her doctor, and her developing child before birth.
Please note that I'm not an Atheist; however, I do insist that my religious beliefs* be respected when I make moral decisions for myself. Consistency demands that I also insist all Americans have the same right. Same God as me, a different one, many gods at once, no God at all, doesn't matter. Every U.S. citizen has that freedom to live their beliefs: it's their birthright as Americans. And, yes, I grok the irony of using that term in the context of unborn children's rights.
*which I'll keep to myself, thankyouverymuch
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(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @05:01PM (1 child)
Actually, I always thought the Catholic church imparted a soul into the child at baptism time.
sarcasm I remember my baptism. There was darkness, until I was pulled out of the water, then there was light. Life began at that moment. /sarcasm
Careful now, the sentence before "sarcasm" is not sarcasm.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:20PM
They didn't hold you under long enough.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @05:21AM
Upon first breath
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @04:58PM (2 children)
Wrong!
They are medical issues. Homosexualty is not a choice, and a woman has a rather significant chance of death in child birth.
Either deal with reality or be written off as an ignorant evangelical that cannot separate religion frim reality.
(Score: 2) by Spook brat on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:22PM (1 child)
Chill, let him have this one. I'm pretty sure the courts have agreed that it's not the role of Government to legislate morality. So if these are moral issues we're in "Congress shall pass no law" territory and he's admitting you're right. No need to get angry when you win :)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @09:44PM
Good pounts, but I am happy to point out his bullshit so no one reads it thinking it might have value since no one called out such horse shit.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 15 2022, @05:34AM (18 children)
People don't choose their sexual orientation, dipshit. If we did, do you think there would be one single woman who wouldn't turn lesbian out of sheer self-defense, given how men have treated us historically? I'm actually beginning to wonder if whatever hormonal or genetic screwup that made me this was is actually a *good* thing, given what being a woman has meant throughout almost all history. The fact that well over 98% of us are still at least somewhat into men puts that "it's a choice" bullshit to bed.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:34AM (17 children)
People can be programmed into believing or doing anything. That goes for LGBTQP2Z+ grooming, political radicalization on all sides, and many other things.
You are technically correct due to a lack of free will, and some genetic and hormonal screwups may be involved. A different and less shitty set of life experiences could have turned you away from lesbianism.
Many women are thriving in the current environment that coddles them and helps them extract resources from men. They couldn't care less about muh patriarchal history, and simply aren't interested in rug munching. On the other hand, Gen Z and Gen Autism are being groomed from birth and will be lucky to end up only as boring old gays and lesbians.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 15 2022, @09:07AM (14 children)
Wow. That is the single densest collection of bitter, angry incel-ganda (yes, that is a word now) I've ever seen in one place. I don't believe *you* believe any of that. No one could type that unironically without their small intestine strangling them from the inside, given its resemblance to Vogon poetry.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Spam) by radical dreamer on Friday July 15 2022, @10:59PM (13 children)
Omg lol. This account is about to be banned, like akai.tsubasa, on pain of being a #FreeAristarchus #FreeAkaiTsubasa sock puppet. But I wanted to log in to have an argument, before janrinok completed soyshit's destruction, so here goes. Let's see if I can type this before banhammer lol.
The problem is that GP believes in magic dicks that can change sexual orientation.
So whatabout the magic vaginas that can change sexual orientation? Why is believing in those not a problem? Because heterosexual men and homosexual women like vaginas, and so they assume that their experience of sexuality is universal?
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 15 2022, @11:31PM (2 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @03:00AM (1 child)
Gotta admit, though, that Azuma can make us LOL with her creative insulting. She should have an honorary doctorate awarded to her. I would moderate her funny if I had time to log in. P.S. I'm not a next one - only one laughing aloud.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @05:01AM
P.P.S. I already done give the lady a gold star. And no she never wanted it, but I give it to her anyway so as I could laugh now and again. And on account of all the desperados that hang out around here. And the trains. But mind you, she's gonna need to work up some new material so she might could find another subscriber-daddy seein' as how I might not be here come December with all the shootin' goin' on 'round here. Luv ya, darlin'.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 15 2022, @11:33PM (9 children)
If you weren't controlling akai.tsubasa as a sock puppet, you wouldn't have known it had been banned. You are remarkably stupid for someone who is quite intelligent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @03:38AM (2 children)
*golf clap* Omg dude, you're such a big man! Your brain is so big! You must assert your dominance, so it is not good enough to ban philosophy, you must also ban gender non-conformance, and then the socialists and trade-unionists!
Yes I am intelligent, and mine is bigger, thank you, which means that I see no value in submitting to your dominance. Oh nose, I lost my mod bomb defense squad account, after my regular account was banned for unknown reasons, on a website catering to Literal Sturmabteilung. Whatever shall I do?
Soyshit news died the day it banned Aristarchus and did not ban Runaway.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday July 16 2022, @05:03AM (1 child)
We do accept sock puppets. What those sock puppets say is irrelevant.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday July 16 2022, @05:34AM
ooops - that should be 'do not accept' of course.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 16 2022, @06:29AM (5 children)
Hold it. Hold it. Hold the fuckin' phone...Aristarchus and Tsubasa are the same person? Holy shit. I was *not* expecting that one.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @12:46PM (1 child)
No, I'm not educated enough to be Aristarchus. I'm just a crazy dick girl who likes Marxism and thinks Luxemburg has better ideas than de Beauvoir. They'll be coming for you next, assuming you're not a Runaway sock.
This is also the frist time you've called me Tsubasa I think. Perhaps you are a different Azuma Hazuki? There is probably more strangeness than meets the eye at the møøse lodge.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 19 2022, @06:57PM
You should have stuck to journals pointing out shitty behavior instead of joining in. Of course sometimes joining in is the only way to get conservatives like janrinok to admit there is a problem. Why didn't you simply admit to your sock puppeting and get your aristarchus account unbanned by now? Sad ari troll is sad.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Sunday July 17 2022, @03:50AM (2 children)
Ari and the *real* tsubasa are not the same. Ari created a sock account using tsubasa's name, just as he created a sock account using your name.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 19 2022, @06:46PM (1 child)
Just like Runaway created a dozen F***YouN*****s sockpuppet accounts, amoung others, to try to control the conversation on SN into a more rednecked hillbilly pro-Trump direction. Epic Fail.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday July 28 2022, @06:54AM
Except it wasn't Runaway. But shall we keep that between ourselves for now?.....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @09:42AM (1 child)
Not getting any? Are you a repressed homosexual? Why are you so bitter about other people who might be getting some and who might be homosexual or not 100% like the preacher says they should be? Why are you so bitter about females? Why don't you let go of the hate and try to make friends with some?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @10:38PM
And yet, the pseudo-left isn't happy with people who 1.) have not had at least 1 menstrual cycle (still think this should be 3 before we let them have the secret decoder ring) and 2.) have lots of safe, responsbile sex with guys. Then for some reason we're sex-crazed gay faggots spreading AIDS and monkeypox, amirite?
Feminism will never achieve gender equality. It's simply incapable of it, and it's things like this that continually expose that fact. Have we figured out the car is out of gas yet, and that we must walk to the gas station, or are we still double-checking the windshield washer fluid to see why it stopped on the side of the road?
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @03:20PM (16 children)
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24
One more time, Joe is a hypocrite when he tries to push that "devout Catholic" narrative.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:16PM (2 children)
Mark 12:17
“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @04:06AM
Yes but it's fun to watch the scribes and pharisees go at it while comprehending nothing about the Message that the enlightened spiritual guru they supposedly follow was trying to teach.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday July 18 2022, @04:12PM
Which was directly related to obeying the laws of men, when the don't interfere with the laws of God.
Note, lots of Christians participating in the Underground Railroad. When the laws of men are contrary to the laws of God. The laws of God rule supreme. Thus, why a lot of Christians are wary of laws that tell you what you can/can't do, when the government shouldn't be dealing with said thing to begin with. I.E. What day one worship's on. How one worship's, so long as you're not doing something straight-up immoral/illegal. (Illegal things: Rape/Murder/Theft/Etc.) The government shouldn't be defining moral/immoral, either. There should be some semblance of law and order, though. Such as the definition of stealing, murder, etc. and consequences for those things. Those laws can help protect the innocent. But, I am definitely on the side of the innocent. I would rather let some criminals go, so it's not easy to misattribute guilt on the innocent.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Spook brat on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:17PM (12 children)
Article II, Section 1, Clause 8:
Does serving God include fulfilling one's oaths? What would you say that God expects of a person who swears to uphold the constitution?
As a service member who made a similar oath, "so help me God", I see no contradiction between serving God according to my own faith while fighting to preserve the rights of others who believe differently. And perhaps I'm projecting, but I think Joe Biden may be capable of doing the same.
Travel the galaxy! Meet fascinating life forms... And kill them [schlockmercenary.com]
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:40PM (11 children)
Well, now, there never was a constitutional right to terminate an inconvenient human life. There was only a Supreme Court ruling, which was considered flawed by the ruling's own champions. So, Joe is not constitutionally obligated to advocate for abortion. That is just something he does, on his own, in defiance of the church, which he claims to be a "devout" member of.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @07:51PM
Ruh roe, idjit alert!
(Score: 2) by Spook brat on Thursday July 14 2022, @11:22PM (9 children)
I'll refer you back to my previous statements [soylentnews.org] regarding personhood. The law in the US does not regard abortion as murder, and religious arguments that it should regard it that way all fall afoul of the "free exercise thereof" clause of the 1st amendment. No one's religion, especially not the President's, should determine what those of other faiths can or cannot do. We rebelled from England over exactly such issues.
Travel the galaxy! Meet fascinating life forms... And kill them [schlockmercenary.com]
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 15 2022, @01:23AM (8 children)
Actually, the principal reason we rebelled was taxes. We had other complaints, including colonists being pressed into service in the navy. But, taxes were first and foremost. When men fight, it is almost always over money, or women.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @03:37AM (3 children)
Ignorant moron Runaway, does not know the difference between the Revolutionary war, and the War of 1812, when they stormed the capital building, and burned it down? And he seems unaware of Catholic Doctrine, the Protestant Reformation, the writings of Whycliffe, Luther, and Calvin. More to the point, there is no mention anywhere in the US Consititution, of semi-automatic, large capacity magazine firearms, so there cannot be any Constitutional right to an automatic. In fact, no right to a repeater! Or even a multi-barrel pepperbox or revolving cap-and-ball pistol.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @04:29AM
Mod parent up. We have to follow Dobbs now and Original Intent, so all the right-wing soyshitstains had better turn in any firearms they own that hadn't been invented by 1789.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 15 2022, @12:48PM (1 child)
So, you're saying that colonists weren't being pressed into service until the War of 1812? Royal Navy press gangs didn't happen until after 1800 or something?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @09:49PM
Runaway1956: Actually, the principal reason we rebelled was taxes. We had other complaints, including colonists being pressed into service in the navy.
Also runaway: Royal Navy press gangs didn't happen until after 1800 or something?
I do love me some runaway insulting his own intelligence ;^]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @08:40PM (3 children)
No, it wasn't, ya rube!!! They objected to taxation without representation. Yes, there is a world of difference between these two things. They were fine with taxation. For example, the power of Congress to tax the people is explicitly spelled out in the Constitution. God, you really need a refresher on American government!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @10:18PM (2 children)
*rolleyes*
Your third grade teacher would be proud that you've remembered that little sound byte after all these years.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 16 2022, @06:30AM
You forgot to log in, you gigantic sack of assmad :D
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 17 2022, @02:49PM
The Pilgrims fled religious persecution in England. Runaway is in favor of religious persecution of Biden and Harris.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:07PM
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-vote-nazi-white-supremacists-military-police-1724545 [newsweek.com]
Gee, who would possibly vote against such an investigation? The same type of people that would try and block an investigation into Trump's insurrection.
Leave it to Runaway1956 to focus on flamebait politics instead of anything that matters. Well, to be faAaAair *raised pinky* his naxi apologia certainly matters, but only because people like him are defending it.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday July 14 2022, @06:28PM (4 children)
I was raised as Catholic, but not long after I entered my 20s I decided that spending my Sunday mornings (or Saturday evenings) showing support for an imaginary "friend" that I no longer believed in was better spent on other things that were more constructive. Needless to say, I'm at the very least agnostic, and very probably an atheist. The sooner that humanity can grow out of it's superstitious need for deities the better off we will be.
Biden advocating for abortion rights is the correct action for him to take, as his position as POTUS means that he serves the People, of which the majority support abortion rights. I could not care less about his Catholic faith, as that's his business. I will however applaud him for not letting his religious beliefs influence his governance.
Both very true statements. Also significant reasons for why I am no longer Catholic (or Christian for that matter).
Not exactly. You're talking about projection re: Republicans and gays. A product of the asinine insistence of homosexuals somehow being "wrong" and something to persecute.
No, it's time for the church to fuck off and get the hell out of politics. The Catholic Church can go on declining as it has been for a long time, and finally die out.
Oh, I'm on board with this, 100%. Unfortunately, too many voters don't use such criteria for figuring out who to give their votes. Too many are single issue voters. Too many vote by looking for the (R) or (D) after the candidate's name. Too many are either ignorant or simply don't care.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @08:12PM (1 child)
> Needless to say, I'm at the very least agnostic, and very probably an atheist.
Try this on for size? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/our-humanity-naturally/201102/being-post-theological [psychologytoday.com]
I wasn't raised with any formal religion, just the Golden Rule. I remember being very puzzled when a childhood friend asked if I was agnostic or atheist, they even tried hard to explain the differences to me. My hesitant answer was, "Neither." When I read the link above I finally realized that I wasn't alone.
-signed-
your local post theological
(Score: 3, Informative) by cmdrklarg on Thursday July 14 2022, @09:23PM
The difference between the atheist and the agnostic are not large (one is confident that God does not exist, the other isn't sure). What you describe is humanism, and it seems to align with my own views. So the likely term for people like you and I is "humanist".
From my quick scan it appears "post-theological" looks to be an umbrella term over those three views, which have a rejection of theology in common. Interesting read.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @09:06PM
Extremist Atheism much?
All men are infedels to some subset of other men it seems.
Church (any organised religion catholic or otherwise) have a moral and legal (in most countries) right to make political observations. Even in countries that separate State from Church, those views are perfectly fine being expressed, so long as they do not control. I.E. a Pope cannot be President, but he sure as shit can express political opinion, just so much as any person of faith can express views on how a church interprets the word of God.
I would much prefer a polititian in power to act on what is best for the people, than maintain hipocracy free positions, because zealotary of any form has no place in State, Church or Belief itself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 17 2022, @01:54AM
"But, it's long overdue for the church to call out it's hypocrites."
Physician, heal thyself
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 14 2022, @11:06PM
Also why hasn't Biden stepped down to make way for President Harris? This is our last chance before the international socialist revolution to have a Madame President. All we're going to have moving forward are Chairpeople.
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC:
Family members mourn police murder victim Jayland Walker [wsws.org]
Living and dying with COVID-19 [wsws.org]
After inflation hike, US Fed set for major interest rate increase [wsws.org]
“The cost of living is tearing us apart”—Inflation rate in US hits 9.1 percent [wsws.org]
Questions remain unanswered after New York City nuclear war alert [wsws.org]
UAW presidential candidate Will Lehman calls for delegates to nominate him at upcoming convention [wsws.org]
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 15 2022, @06:20AM (4 children)
It is more thought that counts. Ahab/janrinok would fain destroy SN, as let aristarchus/MobyDick continue to post as AC without an account. That is really what all this is about. APK is irrelevant. And so, just before the end?
https://americanliterature.com/author/herman-melville/book/moby-dick-or-the-whale/chapter-135-the-chase-third-day [americanliterature.com]
He always said he would die by hemp, assuming it meant being hanged. But a hempen harpoon line is what did him in. Seems you have to look carefully to the Law of Unintended Consequences, when you do thing like hunt albino whales, or try to censor Soylentils that annoy you. Call me Ishmael.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday July 15 2022, @11:26PM (3 children)
I wrote:
It remained well past its forecast closing date. It was only being used as a trolling place. How is any of that a 'fait accompli'? Now i have to correlate the responses and write the results. The spamming returned, so the AC posting embargo is back on again. If you won't learn the rules then you will not be allowed to play the game.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @04:52AM
The big man thinks he can rule over the mighty kingdom of Soyshit, known throughout the land as having the freeziest peaches of them all, by thawing the peaches and instead competing with Gab.
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC:
US Secret Service deleted text messages sent between January 5-6, 2021 [wsws.org]
Medical examiner’s report confirms Akron, Ohio police shot unarmed Jayland Walker 46 times [wsws.org]
Key hearing in case of former Grand Rapids cop who killed Patrick Lyoya delayed for two months [wsws.org]
Worker missing for two months determined to have fallen into industrial plastics shredder [wsws.org]
Ventra Evart workers vote to strike by 98 percent [wsws.org]
“It’s time to make the necessary changes”: Railroaders speak out as Biden announces emergency board to block a nationwide strike [wsws.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @05:45AM (1 child)
My understanding is that the decision will be made by SN's board. I don't know who the board members are, except that they're not the editors and other staff that users generally interact with on this site. That part of the process feels like a black box. I don't know who is making these decisions, their motivations, or what they would like SN to be. When they make their decision, I do hope they will take the time to explain their reasoning. I assume there will be a story announcing the decision, and I think a lot of users would appreciate if the board members would consider making a statement, talking to users directly, and perhaps taking questions in the comments.
I know who you are. I know who hubie, Fnord, and FatPhil are. I know who martyb is, but he's not around, and I very much wish him a quick recovery. I have some idea of who all of you are, I appreciate all of your hard work, and I understand why you make the decisions you do. I don't know who the board members are, and I think it would be helpful for them to interact with users and explain their reasoning when they make their decision, whatever that decision may be.
This is a friendly request made with good intentions, not a demand.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday July 16 2022, @06:17AM
The decision will have to be approved by the board [soylentnews.org] I believe, but all the preparatory work will be done by the staff that you know. They may simply accept our suggestions. The board control all legal aspects of the site and, of course, the finances. If, for example, they decide that the site is no longer financially viable then they may well take a very different view of our future.
I think that you will find their names on the documents for the registration of SoylentNews PBC lodged in the state of Delaware, along with details of our accountant etc. Whether they wish to be known as board members on site or contactable by other site members is something I cannot say. They will be contactable, of course, via SoylentNews PBC.
One of the better known board members was of course NCommander [github.com] (and here [casadevall.pro]) who was one of the creators of this site but who resigned his post some time back, as I have explained elsewhere.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Friday July 15 2022, @05:42PM
So what you're saying is that you can't be US President and follow any particular religion in private? I guess that rules out of a lot of Evangelical Republicans then. What does that mean for personal liberty? Is the President not a US citizen? Does the Constitution not guarantee the right to freedom of religion? Should the POTUS be an atheist? What about that oath he has to swear to take office?
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 16 2022, @08:54PM
https://www.salon.com/2022/07/15/college-rocked-by-underage-misconduct-scandal/ [salon.com]
GOP, the Gross Old Pedophiles party.