UK’s National Health Service has ordered the closure of a controversial gender clinic for children over a report revealing that some health staff felt pressured to take “an unquestioning affirmative approach” to children experiencing gender dysphoria.
The Tavistock Centre, in north London, is known as the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS). Tavistock was founded in 1920 and originally focused on helping WWI shellshock victims. Since then it has grown to encompass a variety of services under the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust banner, with GIDS focusing on child gender issues. Since 1989 GIDS has treated 19,000 children with gender dysphoria (the feeling that one’s true identity is the opposite gender of their physical body).
The external report expressed concerns, among them the lack of knowledge about the effects of puberty blockers. Dr. Hilary Cass, the head of the review, wrote a letter to the head of NHS England on July 19:
…the most significant knowledge gaps are in relation to treatment with puberty blockers, and the lack of clarity about whether the rationale for prescription is as an initial part of a transition pathway or as a ‘pause’ to allow more time for decision making.
We do not fully understand the role of adolescent sex hormones in driving the development of both sexuality and gender identity through the early teen years, so by extension we cannot be sure about the impact of stopping these hormone surges on psychosexual and gender maturation. We therefore have no way of knowing whether, rather than buying time to make a decision, puberty blockers may disrupt that decision-making process.
It’s interesting to read a professional admitting that they do not know everything about gender dysphoria and transition because every time I hear an “expert” they sound as if there are no unanswered questions and that we have a full understanding of the effects of hormone blockers and surgery. If you want to see people who are completely sure of their realities, check out Matt Walsh’s documentary, What is a Woman, read Bonchie’s piece on it, or just read below:
Pediatrician tells Matt Walsh 'your sperm don't make you male,' 'wonderful' puberty blockers are 'completely reversible' in 'What Is a Woman?' documentary https://t.co/umKVYPgmbT
https://www.theblaze.com/news/walsh-what-is-a-woman
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/tavistock-gender-clinic-lawyers-latest-b2143006.html
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Reziac on Saturday August 13 2022, @10:01PM (12 children)
....would you encourage him to jump off a tall building??
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2022, @10:03PM (9 children)
Some would open a "tourist attraction", and charge kids for jumping from tall buildings.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2022, @10:22PM (3 children)
Pediatrician tells Matt Walsh 'your sperm don't make you male,'
nor do Runaway's guns make him a man.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday August 15 2022, @04:25PM (2 children)
Perhaps not, but females don't produce sperm.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:37PM
Ok ferengiman
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:59PM
Yes, correct. Neither trans women nor cis women produce sperm.
Does this mean we've been misgendering Runaway this whole time? It sounds like her body doesn't produce sperm either, any more.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @02:58PM (3 children)
Bungee Jumping already exists so you can stop with the gay panic now.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday August 15 2022, @05:08PM
It reminds me of the old saying that my grandparents used to say:
If at first you don't succeed, use a shorter bungee.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:09PM (1 child)
Why are you conflating child abuse with homosexuality?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @04:59PM
I don't think DM is. Gay panic is a well understood reactionary tactic. Additionally, reactionaries explicitly construct gender transition as a sexual fetish, in order to posture as defenders of women and children. I believe DM's usage of "gay panic" adequately captures this.
(Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday August 16 2022, @12:06AM
Sadly, you are probably correct.
And there is no Alkibiades to come back and save us from ourselves.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @03:50AM
You should go outside of your basement some time. Women aren't just an invention of comic books. Your mommy is one of many.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:21AM
Or storm the Capital Building to overthrow the Constitution, to keep an illiterate idiot in power?
(Score: -1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2022, @10:28PM
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC:
The Mar-a-Lago raid and Trump’s ongoing coup plot [wsws.org]
Attorney General Garland calls for release of search warrant for Trump’s estate [wsws.org]
Search warrant in FBI raid on Trump compound cites Espionage Act [wsws.org]
Democrats cover up reasons for FBI raid on Trump estate [wsws.org]
Retrial opens of two men who plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan in 2020 [wsws.org]
Undercover FBI agent testifies in retrial of accused Whitmer kidnapping plotters [wsws.org]
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2022, @11:13PM (40 children)
Why does the Runaway care what happens to kids in England?
My answer -- he's a busybody and has to be the center of gossip attention
Your answer -- ??
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 13 2022, @11:44PM (1 child)
England has no corner on the market of wankers, poofs, kiddie diddlers and other child groomers. We should follow the Brit's lead on this, and put the groomers out of business.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:05AM
But in England, as I recall, they to be MPs, having gotten rid of the Roman Church under Henry the VIII.
This post brought to you by aristarchus, the banned, and spam modded.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @12:38AM (36 children)
Because he needs to try and distract from how Trump's situation is getting worse every day.
(Score: -1) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday August 14 2022, @12:44AM (33 children)
I think Jews are the ones who need to be scared shitless. They curried favor with China to try and destroy American Goyim, however, it is the Jews who need to shit their pants. They tried to sell America out to the Chinese, and the end result is that neither the Yanks nor the Chinks like them. The day of reckoning is here, Jew-bastards.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @12:48AM (21 children)
#FreeAristarchus
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:20AM (20 children)
Or at least ban Ethanol_fueled. Please? Censorship is easier after you have done it once.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:23AM (19 children)
Ban both Ethanol_fueled and Runaway1956
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=50975&page=1&cid=1266521#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
- Runaway1956
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:21AM (18 children)
The linked comment above is now modded spam, but that is not good enough, now that the ban hammer has swung. Either Aristarchus' account must be restored or Ethanol-fueled and Runaway1956 must both be banned.
Failure to do either I think would be evidence that this site supports antisemitism.
A majority of users agree that the ban hammer holds the solution to the site's problems. Therefore, Runaway and Ethanol must be banned.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:01AM (17 children)
That has been clear a long time, but site staff had handcuffs made from frozen peaches they could point to. After banning aristarchus we found out the handcuffs are unlocked and rather tasty to staff. The bigots have driven nearly everyone off, and now runaway is bringing back his EF sock puppet to release his pent up political chum. Makes me sad to see humans so devoted to irrational hatred.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:15AM
Sad to see this place degenerate into a Gab/"Truth" Social wannabe.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:20AM (15 children)
So the Runaway Neo-Nazi anti-semitic comment has had the Spam mod rescinded, and the parent here is Spam modded? Fucking Arseshole anti-semitic Brits! Well, the temper of this site is now made clear, even to the Glorious Sun of York. Now is the content of our Soylent anti-semitism made clear!
Janrinok, you can only defend and protect your lesser abled American cousin so much, before it becomes counter productive. Let Runaway go, jan, let him go.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:14PM (14 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:54PM
No one, but you are one of the staff responsible for correcting incorrect mods, and you choose to be the mouthpiece for SN staff. Odd how you evade responsibility all the time but are very happy to pronounce edicts of the SN board. You have only yourself to blame at this point.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @03:07PM (12 children)
Because you have assured us that these decisions are made by consensus among all the staff.
So if you weren't involved was that a lie?
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2022, @06:08PM (11 children)
Any member of our community can moderate a story - I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The fact that someone has received a spam moderation doesn't mean it was made by a member of staff.
Decisions regarding bans, or other matters regarding the operation of the site, are made by consensus.
I am willing to discuss this further if you can clarify what exactly you think that I have done / not done.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:45PM (10 children)
Clean up the spam mods. I am not aristarchus yet got a spam mod for pointing out the hypicrisy on the site. Censorship usually does start with preventing criticism. It is 100% ideological bias at work at this point. Someone mocks janrinok? Must be aristarchus! Must ban with soam mods! Just according to the site rules that allow spam mods (bans) for "filth" should have runaway and ethanol pilled banned, but instead any AC left of hitler must be aristarchus and thus harrassed repeatedly.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2022, @08:33PM (9 children)
I am currently in bed! I don't sit on this site 24hrs a day. I usually check Spam moderations once or twice day. If someone thinks that your comment is Spam they may moderate it so. If we disagree then we will revert the moderation - but not at any time of the day or night that you want me to. If somebody repeatedly abuses the moderation system then we warn them about future abuse and the possible consequences.
I give my time voluntarily - that doesn't mean that I am at your beck and call. I don't work for you.
Lots of people make moderations. Lots of people receive them. I am not responsible for them. I am not the only admin responsible for cleaning them up either.
You don't know who has been banned recently unless they have told you, do you? There are different types of ban (moderation, commenting, anonymous commenting, submissions). You cannot tell what bans someone is currently serving.
I'll be back online tomorrow - when I choose to do so. And I will also be packing for my holiday and I have some appointments so my time will be limited.
Send an email if you have a particular problem that you think needs urgent attention.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @08:58PM (8 children)
janrinok's had a rough day, now that his endless dissembling has been exposed. It's fine, get some rest, hun. Make yourself a nice cup of loose leaf chamomile tea, with a little honey and milk. That really helps me unwind after a long day. ^_^ I'm sure you'll do the right thing in the morning, and ban EF and runaway.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:11AM (7 children)
You simply don't understand, do you. How do you know that they are not already banned from something?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @04:03AM
Good morning. It looks like Runaway is posting about multivitamins [soylentnews.org], and I wonder which sock modded that sad pathetic excuse for a comment up.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:14AM (3 children)
Well, actually, I simply do not. For the longest time, I chalked this up to my lack of understanding. But lately, it is more and more clear that this is not the problem. SN allows anti-semitism and our generic Little River redneck hillbilly racism, to what end? The only conclusion one can draw, after the public banning of the leftist aristarchus, is that the site supports the alt-right, and all that goes with that. I do not understand how janrinok could allow this to happen.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday August 17 2022, @12:50PM (2 children)
And you would be right to continue to chalk this up to your lack of understanding. Don't see the point to the rest of your post.
Free speech, of course. Your inability to comprehend or handle other peoples' viewpoints is not our problem.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 19 2022, @06:23AM (1 child)
OH, I can handle them, my tiny khallow. In fact, I handle them too well, by showing that they are completely insane. And then I mock them, mercilessly. But, you already know this quite well, do you not, insurrection denier khallow? Market based solutions do not work with the insane. Or perhaps that _is_ your angle?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 19 2022, @10:22AM
I guess complete insanity isn't what it used to be since you haven't shown much of anything.
Not even wrong.
(Score: 0, Spam) by Philomarchus on Tuesday August 16 2022, @08:06AM
Fancy seeing you here, janrinok. It's been awhile, old friend.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:13AM
You can post antisemitic filth and not get banned here!
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:54AM (8 children)
Oh boy. Trump and his acolytes must be in it deeper than I thought if the situation also warrants EF breaking his 16 months of silence to add to the distraction.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:26AM (7 children)
They finally let him out of prison, after his attacking little old Asian ladies in Sand Eigo. And as for the undeserved remission of the Spam mod on the Nazi Runaway, I just want to say, openly and proudly, and for all to see:
I AM ARISTARCVS!!
Yes, ban me with your illicit spam mods. Janrinok will reward you with even more mod points if you do! If only you could spam mod me enough, that Ethanol_fuckface could not post. Not happening, eh?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @08:33AM
Ha, ha! Took the bait? See, the irony is, I am NOT aristarchus! Ha ha! #FreeAristarchus!!!!1!!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:17PM (5 children)
No, I AM ARISTARCVS!!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:43PM (4 children)
I AM ARISTARCVS!!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @10:57PM (3 children)
And so is my wife!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @02:14AM (2 children)
I shudder to think what the ban has done to your marriage.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @08:21PM (1 child)
Being Aristarchus has made my wife into a more intelligent, beautiful, and interesting person. Why do you ask?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:18AM
Since I Became Aristarchus, my acne cleared, I can fit into my jeans from highschool, and I finally understand CRT! The same can happen for you! Don't be a dummy, be a scmarty, come and join the Aristarchus party!
#FreeAristarchus #WeAreAristarchus #JanrinokNeedsToRetire!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:16AM
They have space lasers ... you don't.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @12:39PM
Distraction or focus on Trump, it doesn't matter anyway the context today.
If this is a distraction, is a distraction from other things. Occam's razor says it's just Runaway trying to confirm himself he can still be an asshole. Too bad for him he can rile the people less as the time passes.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @04:43PM
Dusting off the old Eth Fueled sockpuppet just proves this point even harder.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @11:24AM
Because TERF Island does something right every once in a while.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @01:46AM (6 children)
Anyone else notice how right wingers spend so much time obsessing over the sexuality of young children? Why is that?
It sure is creepy that right wingers think about the sexuality of young children so much.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:12AM
Welcome to the republic of Gilead.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:39PM
They are in service to a war machine [violence.de]. One that requires (among other things) men to normalize the denial of nuanced bodilyy pleasure.
Fascism demands un-nuanced heirarchy and divisions. Male/female is primary. Men are for killing, women are for breeding, and sex is all about power. The existance of people with SRY mutations, or non- X{X,Y} chromosomal arrangements, or sexual preferences that don't directly lead to more kids for the killing machine, threatens the foundations of their fantasy version of the world.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @12:10PM (3 children)
Because the real groomers are in the right-wing churches.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @03:10PM
Department of Justice investigates Southern Baptist Convention following sex abuse inquiry [tennessean.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:48PM
^ 100%
Child marriage is rampant amongst evangelicals, and all the denominations have major issues protecting pedophiles. Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are some of the worst for it, and they spread religious hatred. Time to seize their assets and close them down as terrorist organizations. Also time to remove tax exemptions for spiritual clubs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @02:46PM
At least 181 K-12 educators charged with child sex crimes in first half of 2022 [foxnews.com]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Retian on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:34AM (14 children)
This doesn't affect you in any way yet you still obsess over people who are different, treating them as subhumans just for not confirming to your ideals without hurting anyone at all. (Hell, you might even take offense to the "not hurting people" part since you're such a violence fetishist.)
Another person's choice of pronouns or whatever doesn't affect you in the slightest, unless maybe you've encountered a transgender person and became uncomfortable because of it. In that case I'd take a page from your own book and just tell you to man up and deal with it, snowflake.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:04AM (10 children)
Wake up and smell the coffee. The same nonsense is happening right here in the US. Do you care what happens to your grandchildren? I know I do. I don't want a bunch of child groomers convincing little children that they should have a snip here, a snip there, ending up as some sexless freak. At age 18, the kid is an adult, and that is time for him/her to make his own decisions.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @04:52AM (8 children)
Your genitals were mutilated at birth because of Protestants, idiot.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:17AM (7 children)
1. You don't know about me.
2. Circumcision doesn't result in sterility.
3. Circumcision wasn't invented by Protestants.
4. Babies don't decide whether they should be circumcised - parents, doctors, and clergy seem to make that decision jointly.
Did you have a point to make?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:26AM
Yes, that you're an idiot. Don't you think it would be better to face your trauma from having one of the most sensitive parts of your body torn apart, cut off, and thrown in a garbage disposal without your informed consent?
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:11AM (2 children)
Actually, I believe we do know quite a lot about Runaway, from the guns he own, the vehicles he drives, how often he goes to Texarkana, that he works night shift maitenance for Husquavarna, and that he has a thing about children's sexuality and trans-sexual weiners. Actually, we know far too much about Runaway. 148 Lr 116 Wallaby Way, outside of Sidney, Arkansaws. Look for the Double-wide with the Australian shepards.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @09:46AM (1 child)
And, apparently, we know that he is cut. Presumably a "bottom", but I do not think that has been confirmed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:13PM
He's totally a bottom. It shows through every now and then.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday August 15 2022, @03:02PM (2 children)
Right, 'cause who INVENTED the procedure is much more important that the guy who actually cut off part of your dick!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @10:31PM (1 child)
Do we have evidence that Abraham (or Moses, or the ancient Jewish culture at large) actually invented it? Did Egypt mutilate slaves' genitals? Did other, unrelated cultures practice ritual male infant genital mutilation at that time?
I remember in the first dramatization of Roots, genital mutilation was depicted, but of adult men instead of infants. Was this a traditional practice of Bantu cultures, developed independently of the Jewish tradition of bris, or an anachronism?
I realize that philosophy has been banned, and probably our Jewish and African-from-Africa members have left in disgust at Ethanol-fueled, Runaway1956, and janrinok's bottomless barrel of excuses, but is there at least an anthropologist in the house?
Regardless, it's important that we remember that the vast majority of people with male reproductive systems who have been mutilated at birth in the USA, and in other countries where the fad spread briefly, were mutilated because of a handful of Protestants.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @03:44AM
A Short History of Circumcision in North America: In the Physicians' Own Words [noharmm.org], offering a regional snapshot --
1860: .001% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
1920: 50% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
1971: 90% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
1994: 60% of the North Eastern urban American male population circumcised
History of circumcision [wikipedia.org]:
However, Wikipedia does not tell us about non-Jewish people in the USA who were mutilated simply because they had a Jewish-sounding last name, or otherwise without anyone's consent at all. Exposing the seriousness of this matter and the scale of the child abuse conducted for completely fraudulent reasons would be the task of a credible men's rights movement, as would exposing the scapegoating of Jewish people for these entirely Christian crimes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @01:38AM
Runaway just has issues with how Rupert Murdock groomed him to be a far-right racist republican.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @08:51PM
The Republicans don't care about trans-kids. What they care about is how they're coming off the school shootings and gun control regulations media coverage as the party that puts gun ownership ahead of the lives of children. So, by misdirecting the media around trans stories, they get to take the "protect the children" positions again and come off as the good guys.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @11:16PM (1 child)
- It’s happening: “LGB drop the T” keeps trending on Twitter as gay activists turn on transgender activists [notthebee.com]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @12:52AM
Trump’s “Call to Violence” Against FBI as He Faces Espionage Act Charges Is “Replay” of Jan. 6 Riot [democracynow.org]
This Is the Hill To Die On, Despite Evidence So Pulverizing It Eviscerates Any Notion of Innocence [commondreams.org]
Violent Threats Against FBI Soar as Trump Lies About Mar-a-Lago Search [commondreams.org]
Donald Trump labeled a 'flight risk' after he revealed that the FBI seized his passports [alternet.org]
Mar-a-Lago smoking gun footage may mean DOJ may not have recovered all the classified material: legal experts [alternet.org]
'Ever-shifting explanations': Donald Trump’s defenders struggle to keep their stories straight [alternet.org]
The Rise of Christian Fascism and Its Threat to American Democracy [alternet.org]
Republican New York gubernatorial candidate accused of 'clear and convincing' election fraud [alternet.org]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:07AM (1 child)
But, like every other steaming heap, it draws lots a flies to rant and sound important... and the "doctors" who dream this shit up are making a tidy sum, eh?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:22AM
You're projecting. You're the one with dysphoria as a result of being circumcised as an infant. You'll never be a real man now, so you compensate with firearms. So sad.
Circumcision does indeed make the Protestant doctors rich. A little snip here, a little snip there, and now you're just a pathetic, sexless eunuch.
Have you seen how much bigger intact men are?
(Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:01AM (44 children)
Your primary source is portraying this as being very one sided. You are quoting entirely from one rather biased report (RedState). But even this source states (although you omitted to include it) :
However, if you actually read and understand the other sources, it is one particular centre (GIDS) that is being closed because of specific failings of staff in that one location, partly due to being overwhelmed by referrals. Certain medications were being prescribed without the full knowledge of their effects as an expedient measure. The 2 other, smaller centres (which are not just 'gender clinics') in the UK are to remain open and new regional centres are to be created. The UK is not stopping treatment - it is making the most appropriate treatment available for most of the country, manned by people who are qualified to do the task expected of them.
I am not sure, however, from where these qualified people will magically appear.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:06AM
Runsaway? Not likely. No reading comprehension, and from RedState and the [Mormon Crazy] Blaze?
Gotta say, they best thing is to just ban the asshole, for the sake of the community.
(Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2022, @09:40AM (2 children)
This is why I posted multiple sources.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Touché) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @09:50AM
Well, you could try quoting the opposing view then from those multiple sources.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @11:40PM
That's your problem. You're trying to make perversion look bad. You're as narrow-minded as Matt Walsh:
Fueled By Leftist Tears, Amazon No. 1 ‘Johnny The Walrus’ Exposes Today’s Propagandistic Children’s Publishing [thefederalist.com]
Now, shall we review the apropos South Park episodes...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:08PM (39 children)
Your pretensions to "both sides" are completely transparent as long as Runaway1956 and Ethanol-fueled are free to spew their genocidal, bigoted antisemitic garbage. Fascism killed 6 million Jews less than a century ago. Antisemitism is not acceptable.
Yet the ownership of the site has consciously chosen to endorse antisemitism. Your plausible deniability went out the window when you banned Aristarchus.
Of course you don't know. Part of your strategy is to deny that trans people could possibly be telling the truth about their experience of gender, even though a simple thought experiment will show you to be the liar.
This is why we cannot have men's rights.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @02:38PM (38 children)
I am supporting the rights of transgender people to choose which path they wish to follow. Not sure where your criticism is coming from.
There is a severe shortage of medically qualified personnel in the UK from nurses all the way to the most specialised surgeons. That is the point I am making - there is no magic pot of new skilled personnel just waiting to be allocated to one of the new regional centres. They will have to come from elsewhere in an already overstretched organisation. Actions speak louder than words - the politicians can say what they want to do but they simply haven't got the resources to do it.
As for your other comments, I will get round to looking at the journals when I have the time. They are the least important part of my job.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:31PM (33 children)
And here you are! You must have scrolled past Ethanol-fueled's comment up there, not to mention the despicable comment Ethanol-fueled posted to the front page that the comment of Runaway's I linked is in reply to.
It is becoming exceedingly clear that SoylentNews is a basket of antisemitic, white supremacist deplorables.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:46PM
And like bigots throughout history they lie and protect their own
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:59PM (31 children)
No - you are wrong. I watch every comment as it arrives on a different view than you have - but I cannot see its full content. One click brings me directly to the comment in question. I don't see any other comments in the same story/journal.
There is yet another display which shows me how the community is moderating each comment but, again, I cannot see the comment itself. It is community moderation that draws my attention to that comment. Moderation however takes time to settle and that is when we review content otherwise we could be unfairly biased by an early moderation.
Finally, you do not know what action we are taking, if any, against any commentators. We do not announce it to the world, we simply act and the only person that needs to know is the one against whom we are acting. If they choose to make it public that is entirely their decision.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:30PM (30 children)
The site admins are strangely helpless to stop Ethanol-fueled from inciting genocide and Runaway from cheering him on and suggesting other targets for the murderous jihad these fascists have been plotting since at least the 90s, if not earlier.
However when philosophy is involved, then equally strangely, the admins are able to overcome all these limitations, in pursuit of their Dunning-Kruger Aristarchus spotting, and make a big show of banning Aristarchus on the front page with multiple stories.
What was the purpose of all the show and community discussion? If it was simply for banning Aristarchus alone, then this is a bold-faced lie:
What motives could admins possibly have who ban one user for criticism and mocking of trolls while ignoring the vile trolls themselves like Ethanol-fueled and Runaway1956?
You claims of innocent ignorance become ever more difficult to believe with each excuse you offer up, janrinok.
#FreeAristarchus
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:33PM (5 children)
You mean- you don't know what action we have taken because we haven't informed you personally? That is exactly the way it should be.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:54PM (4 children)
You told us all about banning Aristarchus on the front page! Now why don't you ban Ethanol-fueled and Runaway1956 and post about that in a front page story as well, to exonerate SoylentNews from responsibility for harboring antisemitism and the other execrable content posted by those two users?
Your inaction casts a shadow over every user of this site.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:08PM (3 children)
Aristarchus chose to make his temporary ban for sock-puppeting public - not us.
Only 1 person has ever been permanently banned from our community. We used a Meta story to explain our reasoning and decision. He then refused to accept his temporary ban and continued to disrupt other discussions. He was warned of the potential consequences but he also chose to ignore those warning too.
We do not publicise temporary bans.
You do not know what action - or inaction - we have taken or will take in the future.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:42PM
Well runaway and ef are not banned so what was all that typing for? To explain the obvious? To make a pointless response as usual where you ignore the content of a post, trying to maintain the illusion this community is not actively protecting white supremacists.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @11:13PM
Oh, that naughty aristarchus! Refusing to accept his ban! Disrupting discussions by saying things janrinok does not like! Ignoring warnings! And now, he's got AC's purged and banned as well. Bad, wicked, naughty aristarchus! (Channeling Zoot, from Monty Python Holly Grale)
Yes, quite so, jolly good! That way you do not have to admit that there are none on the antisemites. Keep Clam, and Alt-right on!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:25AM
You think that Runaway would not publically and loudly complain about being mod-banned, or posting-banned, or any other kind of ban? My Gawd, the poor little bastard immediately complains to admin on IRC if anyone throws him a deserved spam mod! No, we know that janrinok protects Runaway, keeps him from excessive (community) down-modding, and allows his harem of up-modding sockpuppets. So regrettable, that SoylentNews would be brought down, by such an ignorant moran.
(Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @06:56PM (9 children)
We have moved all the AC crap-flooding posts to the journal discussions. There are very few on the main page now and those are quickly handled by community moderation. It had absolutely nothing to do with aristarchus - who was banned for doxxing, not for espousing philosophy or any particular political view. Those topics of discussion belongs here, in the journals.
It is true that there are fewer comments per story on the main page, but actually more intelligent conversation. The previous comment numbers were inflated with AC noise in the past. The site has increased the number of genuine accounts since the change was made, and the total comments and page hits are also slowly increasing in number. We have lost quite a few ACs but it is not possible to quantify how many. Any numbers that are claimed for ACs losses are simply guesses - no matter who makes them.
Those who wish to publish journals can also select whom they wish to comment on their discussions. I have no visibility of what choices they make so I cannot provide any further data.
What we seek to do now is to improve the variety and standard of submissions, and to encourage new members to join our community. This will not be something that can be fixed in the immediate future but will take time and effort.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:07PM (3 children)
We see you're still pseudo-defending nazis spewing racism and hate while commentary about site management gets an IP ban and staff refuse to correct said mods because the post content is sinilar to what a certain other user might post. Funny how conservatives operate, even the more reasonable ones like janrinok devolve into fascists when they feel they are righteous. What a sad development for SN as a community. Well, the non-white supremacist members of SN, runaeay, ef, vlm, and such are quite happy being allowed to spread hate here after being banned from just about every other place.
(Score: 3, Funny) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:11PM (2 children)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:38PM (1 child)
I see you're also having dementia problems. You've run out of excuses for defending the fascists, and your stodgy adherence to dismissing criticisms by leaning on ari doxxing runaway is a huge tell. The free speech excuse was better, but now that lie does not fly. SN admins censored at least a few journals, thousands of valid stories, and now rampant abuse of the spam mod against anyone suspected of being aristarchus. That is how fascism creeps in, set one example people can rally behind then use that as your excuse for everyrhing going forward. Someone criticizing janrinok? Accuse them of being ari and soam mod them!
#SadBoomerFilledWithHate
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @03:47AM
Presumably they accused Barrabas [soylentnews.org] of being Aristarchus, and that is how they stole the site from him.
#FuckBeta #FuckDice #FuckSoyStain #FuckTrump #FreeAristarchus
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:24PM (2 children)
Yes, basically, SN will have to wait until Torba finishes kicking everyone who is not a Christian Nationalist off of Gab, and if they are still anti-semitic, they can then move on over to SoylentNews. We have no idea what is being done behind the scenes, but this strategy is rather obvious.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:49PM (1 child)
It really is obvious. The US nazis were very real and went into hiding after ww2 since public sentiment was very against them. They spent half a century recruiting, infiltrating organizations, and building political power. Now they are well funded with dedicated shills spreading the "both sides" and "free speech" bullshit to make their racist bullshit seem more innocent. Some admins allow racism and hate, only taking action when absolutely necessary to maintain the illusion they are not active fascists. It is a sad time in human history, hopefully the libertarians wake up before they put on those skull adorned hats again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:25PM
Found the democrat!
Got news for ya, there is no "both sides", not that it will help you any
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @07:57PM
Why do you continue to lie to your users and the Aristarchus Collective, janrinok?
DECISION – ‘aristarchus’ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:30AM
Ah, the truth comes out! Crap-flooding? Those are my opinions you are talking about, Mr. High-and-Mighty superior British person! And now the front page is dead. Gaaark goes off on occasion. khallow can get hisself all het up. But no meaningful discussion. I do notice a few rational Soylentils hanging around, to see if things get better. But, they have not. Crap-flooding is the heart of SN, you bloody idiot! Can't you see what you have done? It is dead, dead, I tell you! And SN is not coming back from this.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2022, @02:00AM (13 children)
You're a fekkin' idiot. Runaway did not cheer EF on. Go back and read the post again. In context, I called EF an idiot. So, you and EF are idiots born of two different mothers? Brother from another mother?
Did they even have literacy courses in your school system?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:19AM (12 children)
You ignorant moron! Did you, or did you not, type these exact words, verbatim, and like this?
Agreeing with an antisemite that Jews are evil. Encouraging him to soften the message so as not to scare away all the "normies". And all the while, getting Eth all upset with the prospect of gender reassignment, which he cannot bring himself to admit he desperately wants. Yes, you are a EF supporter. A racist. A Misogynist. Pedophilic tendencies. Republican. You need to be banned from SoylentNews, after your lies and perversions.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2022, @12:51PM (11 children)
Still an idiot, aren't you?
Let me try to explain:
White people have the potential for evil.
Black people have the potential for evil.
Jews have the potential for evil.
Native Americans have the potential for evil.
Males have the potential for evil.
Females have the potential for evil.
Asians have the potential for evil.
Young people have the potential for evil.
Old people have the potential for evil.
If you can sort that out, you'll understand that Jews are just one of the evils in the world.
Stop being an overly sensitive cunt. It only increases my contempt for you.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2022, @01:07PM (7 children)
What you wrote and what you now claim it to mean are different things. Either shut up or, better still, apologise for not stating it clearly in the first place.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday August 15 2022, @01:28PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2022, @03:03PM (5 children)
Well, yes, I'm truly sorry that some people are illiterate, and/or refuse to understand what is written. Anyone can ask for clarification if they don't understand what is meant.
Clearly, we have a member who is obsessed with his anti-semitism. I told him he's an idiot - whatever evils he sees among the Jews, he can find among any other group he might care to obsess over.
Whatever . . . other people's failings are not my responsibility.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @04:43PM
Nobody here has any power to prevent your grand-kids from becoming tranny limeys.
Perhaps you are posting this on the wrong forum.
--
Fear is the mind-killer...and I suspect your case is hopeless.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2022, @05:50PM (3 children)
As you haven't shut up - I take it this is the best you can do for an apology?
You are still blaming everyone else - not just one person as you have just stated - because everybody understood exactly what you wrote yet you alone claim it means something different.
No they are not - but you should at least admit to your own failings when they are so clearly displayed. You wrote it. We all read it. Trying to pretend otherwise is pointless.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:05PM
But he has spent the last 6 years pretending like everything the traitor in chief said and did were not what was plainly said and done. Now runaway and other white supremacists think it was a valid strategy even though it failed and depended on corruption to give the illusion of success. Why face responsibility now when a blatant traitor, sexual assaulter, and plain old grifter was able to get away with so much for so long? Now imagine if you can that runaway is an absolute troll and reevaluate all of their claims.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:18PM (1 child)
Well jeeze! For an admin, you're pretty chatty yourself.. Is this some kind of "woke" thing? Compelled to respond to every little fart? Well let me tell you something, farts are still funny, lighten up, Francis! Whatever happened to the zen of just doing your job and keeping your mouth shut?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @02:34AM
Now, shall we review the apropos
South ParkTerrance and Phillip episodes...(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @01:16PM
Some 'a's are uppercase: AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Some 'b's are uppercase: BBbbbbbbbbb
Some 'c's are uppercase: CCCCCCCCCCcc
Some 'd's are uppercase: Dddddddddddddddd
Some 'e's are uppercase: EEEEEE
From that why should I understand that 'b's are just one of the groups of uppercase letters in the world?
Because it's clearly not true, the 'b's aren't a group of uppercase letters, and thefore they aren't one of the groups of uppercase letters.
Stop being an ignorant cunt. It only increases everyone's contempt for you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @02:39PM
Bwahahahahha
White supremacist COWARD suddenly doesn't want the consequences for using their 1A rights? Sounds about white.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @06:32AM
Try, and fail. Such is the fate of the ignorant moron.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:55PM (3 children)
It is not too late to save the NHS!
IMT/Socialist Appeal: Doctors demand a pay rise: Save our NHS with socialist policies! [socialist.net] - ‘Sir’ Starmer vs the working class [socialist.net]
ICFI/SEP/IWA-RFC: Scotland and Northern Ireland council and National Health Service workers in growing pay battle [wsws.org] - Why ancient drama speaks to our time: An interview with Joel Christensen and Paul O'Mahony of Reading Greek Tragedy Online [wsws.org]
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:06PM
Censorship! That was not spam!! Fucking assholes have ruined this place!
TMB! Come Back! Help clean up the road kill around here!
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:06PM (1 child)
Spam mod removed.. thank you very much, good to see a little justice
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @08:26PM
Yes, just a little, so very little.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2022, @05:57PM (1 child)
No wonder Republicans don't want universal healthcare, they haven't grown up enough to bear the responsibility!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @04:29AM
Oh man I was reading this: More information emerges on fascist gunman who attacked Ohio FBI office [wsws.org], and for a moment I thought that was Runaway! But thankfully Runaway's continued obsession with prepubescent girl dicks assured me that he was still alive and well.
What does the Navy do to them?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday August 15 2022, @05:16PM (3 children)
With so many different genders to choose from, I would have to agree that the decision would be overwhelming for a grade school child to decide for themselves without the aid of school counselors.
Thank goodness for national gender clinics to the rescue!
I'm sure all of us can sympathize with how difficult the decision was for each and every one of us in our youth to select from the myriad gender choices available. However did we manage to make it to adulthood, some of us.
The choice of gender is one of the most stressful choices each of us has to make in our life. Every one of has has to face that decision. It is more stressful than buying a house. More stressful than buying a car. More stressful than deciding which cable channel to watch.
The anti vax hysteria didn't stop, it just died down.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:02PM
You still have cable? How quaint!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @06:59PM (1 child)
Oh man I know what you mean. As a child I had rapid-onset gender dysphoria. Now that I'm all growed up, it still hasn't gone away. It rapidly onsets every morning!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2022, @07:03PM
"Standing for the Queen", eh?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 16 2022, @09:55AM
Runaway1956 Dead at IQ 58
I just heard some sad news on the radio this morning. Runaway1956 died messily today in a pool of his own feces at the tender IQ of 58. Sources close to the fag say that he died in a gay penis festival gone horribly awry. Ethanol-fueled, another close asshumping homosexual friend of the Runaway1956, said he died while jumping from a 3 foot step ladder onto a 48 inch didlo held erect by the cum guzzling queer-extroardinaire, APK. SoylentNews admin^H^H^H^H^Hcensor janrinok was said to be distraught at the passing of his bestie in a tragic gay sex accident gone wrong. Runaway1956 was truly an icon for all racists and bigots.