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ARGLE BARGLE RAR! Lefties are BIG MAD about DeSantis flying illegal immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard and HERE are some of the biggest tantrums
Posted at 9:11 am on September 15, 2022 by Sam JanneyFor DECADES, Democrats and Lefties have been calling anyone and everyone who wants our southern border secured, ‘racists,’ ‘xenophobes,’ ‘haters,’ ‘white nationalists,’ etc. How dare people who are actually impacted by the MILLIONS of illegal immigrants walking (yes, walking, Karine Jean-Pierre) across the border ask that something be done?!
Welp, if our pals on the Left think our sieve of a border is AOK, or even secure, then it’s about time they put up or shut up.
But this is more like what we’re seeing from them after hearing about DeSantis flying illegal immigrants to Martha’s Vineyard (and Abbott sending them to Kamala’s HOUSE).
But they said they SUPPORT illegal immigrants. What’s the dealio?
It’s deeply deeply sick and dehumanizing to fly illegal immigrants to a gorgeous part of our country? A part of the country they likely want to go to? Really Chris?
Eric Swalwell is also really fussy.
Rep. Eric Swalwell
@RepSwalwell
Does America face a migration issue at our border because of poor economic and security conditions in countries south of us? Of course.Should we exploit that crisis by using desperate humans as political pawns. Hell no. This is so sick. It takes a soulless man to do this.
Ummm … what? Democrats do nothing BUT use illegal immigrants as political pawns. Remember when a bunch of them went down to a detention center? AOC wept? Funny how that concern all went away once Trump was out of office.
Almost as if they were being used as POLITICAL PAWNS.
Doorknobs.
Oh, and speaking of doorknobs:
Chip Franklin.com
@chipfranklin
I don't get it, maybe because I'm not a Republican: Can someone explain to me how spending money to ship two plane loads of immigrants all the way for Martha's Vineyard on the taxpayer's dime, all so one man can go viral on Twitter for a few hours, is "fiscally conservative"?Willing to bet two plane rides is a HELLUVA lot cheaper than putting more people on Florida’s welfare services longterm, Chip.
The rest of the article here: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/09/15/argle-bargle-rar-lefties-are-big-mad-about-desantis-flying-illegal-immigrants-to-marthas-vineyard-and-here-are-some-of-the-biggest-tantrums/
The Kamala's house story: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/09/15/popcorn-kamala-harris-finds-out-the-hard-way-the-border-is-absolutely-not-secure-as-illegal-immigrants-are-bussed-to-her-home-watch/
Click the links, and follow the links within the links.
These disgusting human beings are all for immigration, right up until they meet an immigrant. While Arizona, New Mexico and Texas are deluged by thousands daily, these privileged white assholes from Martha's Vineyard are SHOCKED that a mere hundred immigrants have been flown to THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD!! NIMBY!!
If we could build an immigrant pipeline straight from the border to all of the contiguous continental state's capitols, along with Washington, D.C, the border would be secured in months. Imagine, 10,000 illegal aliens arriving in front of the White House, EVERY MONTH!! That is what the southern border states are dealing with.
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“At some point, they have to move from here to somewhere else... We don’t have the services to take care of 50 immigrants…we don’t have housing for 50 more people.". Have I already mentioned NIMBY? The woman obviously thinks that the border states have the room, have the housing, have the services to provide for these people. Just dump them all on the border states, and on red states, and hillbilly states, because, we, the elite, won't tolerate a bunch of raggedy illegals on our island!!
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 15 2022, @03:50PM (22 children)
DeSantis sent 50 migrants to Martha's Vineyard by plane as an anti-liberal stunt. The locals pulled together to help them. [businessinsider.com]
SO MAD!!
(Score: -1, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:03PM (19 children)
Follow the links, Monkey Boy. A whole bunch of libs are foaming at the mouth. Did you miss that the mayors of New York and D.C. want to declare emergencies over a few hundred immigrants?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:11PM (6 children)
Maybe about the $12 MILLION it cost to buy those 50 plane tickets!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:04PM (1 child)
Haha, TRIGGERED by the truth!
Taryn Fenske, DeSantis' communications director, has confirmed that Florida legislator approved the use of $12 million to "transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations," [newsweek.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @06:35PM
Just sharing the wealth and the love with all those immigrant loving sanctuary cities!!
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @05:05AM (3 children)
Your reading comprehension gets very low when you're triggered. The $12M is for the whole program, not the first 50.
https://www.kayak.com/flight-routes/Florida-USFL/New-York-NYC [kayak.com] says the average price of a ticket is about $250.
12,000,000 / 250 = 48,000.
48,000 - 50 = 47,950 to go.
I think there will be a lot more liberal screams before the money runs out.
(Score: 4, Touché) by FatPhil on Friday September 16 2022, @06:33AM (1 child)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @08:01AM
Of course government programs have a lot of waste. Joe Burden is in the White House after all - after having leached off of the American people for half a century already.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @08:52AM
Except it wasn't to NYC. And it wasn't from Florida either.
Apparently, these folks were flown from Kelly Field in San Antonio, TX to Martha's Vineyard, MA
Let's see about that those prices then
But it's strange that the Governor of Florida paid for two *charter* jets to bring asylum seekers in Texas to Martha's Vineyard.
According to EvoJets [evojets.com], a charter carrying 20-35 passengers costs ~$55,000-$70,000.
It took two planes to carry all 50 asylum seekers, so that's ~$110,000-$140,000.
Let's split the difference and call it $125,000 per 50 asylum seekers.
Thats $12,000,000/$125,000 = 192 flights (with 25 per flight)
For a total of 4,800 asylum seekers.
Sounds like a good deal to me. I wonder if they have an open bar on these flights?
But I still want to know why deSantis is using Florida taxpayers' money to fly folks from Texas to Massachusetts.
I wonder if the taxpayers of Florida like that idea?
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:14PM (9 children)
More like 11,000 just to NYC [bloomberg.com]:
But we take them and welcome them. House and feed them. Help them get medical care and legal support for their asylum claims -- these are, after all, asylum seekers.
Because we're kind and decent and care about the welfare of other humans. We'd even do that for you, Runaway, even though you don't deserve it.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:18PM (8 children)
A city of 20 million needs to welcome another million illegals. Enjoy!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:22PM (7 children)
What city might that be?
NYC has ~9 million residents, not 20 million [worldpopulationreview.com].
I'm guessing that's just scratching the surface of your ignorance. I pity you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:57PM
Here, I'll give you the list, you go ahead and pick some. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:01PM (5 children)
Scratch your own ignorance, lol!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_metropolitan_area [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:19PM (4 children)
That's as may be, but I cited numbers of folks bused to NYC proper, not the NYC metro area, which consists of parts of three states.
As such, the folks bused to NYC are being housed, clothed and fed by NYC proper alone. In which city there are ~9 million people.
Those other 11 million folks live in other political jurisdictions with separate budgets and resources and, as such, are irrelevant to the current topic -- hence your (and possible another AC, not sure -- are you the ignorant one in both comments or just one?)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:50PM (3 children)
I made no distinctions regarding "NYC proper". You attempted to draw some kind of distinction between the metropolitan area and surrounding areas. So, uhhhhh, did you plan to keep all those illegal aliens captive in Manhattan, or what? Those few people are going to go wherever the hell they want, mostly locally, some across the continent to some other city they believe to be more welcoming. But, most of them will probably remain in the metropolitan area. And, I say again, you need to welcome another million illegals. They will help to raise your rent rates, and lower your working wages. Enjoy!!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Friday September 16 2022, @06:41AM (2 children)
Attempted, and succeeded. That's because they're distinct. This is 101 stuff, bubba.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @08:03AM (1 child)
Bubba? You another one of them Appalachian Hillbilly Rednecks?
When someone says that New York has a population of ~20 million, it goes without saying that he is speaking of the metropolitan area.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by DBCooper on Sunday September 18 2022, @08:47AM
Goes without saying, goes without knowing, goes with saying without knowing. Keep digging, Blubber!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:30PM (1 child)
Swalwell and Franklin (who the hell is that Franklin guy?) seem to be sad and confused as to why some folks are so callous about the lives of vulnerable men, women and children, not angry.
At least based on the tweets you quoted. And it is sad to know that my fellow Americans can be so nasty to people who come here because they say they face violence, persecution and death.
It makes me sad and ashamed to be an American when I hear about my countrymen being so cruel. :(
(Score: -1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @08:04PM
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/09/17/turns-out-the-illegals-sent-to-marthas-vineyard-werent-deceived-about-their-destination-n628747 [redstate.com]
The ONLY inhumanity apparent here, are the wealthy progressive liberals who called out the National Guard to get rid of those dirty brown immigrants.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:17PM (1 child)
And, that is the issue. Texas can't support millions of illegals indefinitely. Martha's Vineyard is concerned that they can't support FIFTY illegals indefinitely, but tiny villages across Flyover Country have fifty or more already.
There are limits, but Democrats don't understand what limits are.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:08PM
More importantly, it's a case of "do as I say, not as I do", mixed with NIMBY.
(Not In My Back Yard for those who don't know what the NIMBY acronym means).
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @04:20PM (6 children)
Decent human beings [cbsnews.com].
I suppose it would have been nice it Ronny had made a few phone calls the day before, so the folks on Martha's Vineyard would have a little time to prepare.
But no matter, Those kind, decent folks will take care of these people, unlike some of our fellow Americans who aren't decent human beings. And more's the pity.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:03PM (2 children)
Isn't that a nice socialistic view on life. "These people" are mere chattel, to be taken care of, as opposed to absorbed into the community, given jobs, homes made available, education, etc ad nauseum. "These people" are to be "taken care of" instead of being assimilated.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:28PM (1 child)
IIUC, since these folks are asylum seekers, they are not authorized to work in the US thanks to our broken immigration system. As such, until their asylum petitions are addressed, they will need help.
Some may well have family connections here in the US, possibly even in Massachussetts -- it's too bad they weren't asked where they wanted to go, rather they were just shipped unannounced someplace where Ron deSantis could "own the libruls." Which hasn't worked out so well for him because most folks aren't sociopathic scumbags like deSantis.
It wouldn't surprise me if some or all of those who receive asylum end up settling in Martha's Vineyard. It's a really nice place, with nice people. You should visit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @05:54PM
And, here, I'll cite the infamous Fusty Kraken: Neither party has ever had any interest in fixing the broken system. They promised to address immigration when they launched Operation Wetback. Since then, Dems have controlled Washington multiple times, and Republicans have done the same. But, both parties always kick the can down the road.
The first step in "fixing" anything, is to secure the border. You can't control anything with a wide open border.
(Score: 4, Troll) by Magic Oddball on Saturday September 17 2022, @12:57AM (2 children)
They're able to take care of the newcomers expressly because there's only a couple hundred of them. As Europe has demonstrated in the past decade or so, as migration grows, attitudes among locals shift rapidly from being proud to be "kind, decent folks" who help anyone who shows up, over to being upset because of all the problems that come along with having a large population of poverty-stricken people who don't share the same language or culture. Dump a couple thousand more at the Vineyard, wait a year or two, and then take a look at how the locals are reacting.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @09:02AM
The year round population of Martha's Vineyard [wikipedia.org]is ~17,000.
During peak tourist season, that grows to ~200,000.
Guess what, tourist season is over now. As such, I imagine they'll need some help from the state for funds to feed/clothe/house these folks for a while, but they're used to having visitors. Lots of visitors.
So it really shouldn't be too much of a problem (and they, like many places that aren't run by cruel scumbags like Abbott, Ducey and deSantis) to help a few hundred (or perhaps even more) until they get their asylum cases sorted out.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @10:44AM
Ha ha. It didn't take a couple of thousand more or a couple of years. They already called out the national guard to get rid of them.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @08:46PM (2 children)
Build the pipeline to Canada! That's where they're trying to go
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2022, @10:24PM
WTF? Maple flavored refried beans?
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 19 2022, @01:42PM
If the UK is any guide, Canada could do with some fine Mexican cuisine. Pro tip, don't use Garbonzo beans (chickpeas), when someone asks for a bean burrito. I've never made it to Canado though, and I only know about some weird beans + milk thing for breakfast or something?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Interesting) by HairyPlotter on Friday September 16 2022, @01:06AM (4 children)
We liberals are not mad, we just pity the fool that thinks bussing will solve social problems.
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aristarchus
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @05:08AM
Bussing doesn't solve the problem, but it does move it to where it was created.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 16 2022, @08:04AM
If they had bussing in ancient Greece, you would have ridden the short bus, aristartled.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by krishnoid on Friday September 16 2022, @04:17PM (1 child)
You bus the tired, the hungry, the poor, to a state which has a robust system in place to offer people productive work, and neighborhoods they can enrich and benefit from ... from, er, Florida [theguardian.com]. Just that much will do a lot towards improving everyone's lot.
Seriously, you take people
My guess (just a guess) is that that half-assed hustlers trying to work an existing system don't predominate so much in that population. You run a state, city, or town mostly by the rule of law, with a culture of appreciation for craftsmanship and work ethic [theglobeandmail.com], provide the opportunities [youtu.be], and you'll get the kind of quality work [theonion.com] that builds infrastructure and communities. If you're a hustler, though ... you might start complaining about being overrun by hard, honest workers.
The second and third generations are a different story. But that's regardless of origin, really.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 17 2022, @08:10PM
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2022/09/17/this-song-perfectly-sums-up-the-attitudes-of-marthas-vineyards-residents-towards-illegal-immigrants-n628812 [redstate.com]
(Score: -1, Spam) by DBCooper on Sunday September 18 2022, @08:45AM
Jump, Runaway! Just jump. It will all work out in the end, when Texas rejoins Mexico, having been stolen in the first place.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday September 19 2022, @04:38PM
The one who oppresses the poor person insults his Maker,
but one who is kind to the needy honors him.
While Republicans can get over Trump's sexual assaults, affairs, and vulgarity; they cannot get over Obama being black.
(Score: 0, Spam) by Analtomography on Wednesday September 21 2022, @07:41AM
Lawsuits are being lodged against Gov. De Satanis, and Runsway1956, for illegal transport of illegals across illegal state lines, using Federal resources, and, not being very nice. In other news, Massachusetts is going to declare war against Florida, for the first time in, oh, eighty years. And guess who won the last time? The South, will loose, agrarian, again. Florida man ignorantly breaks law. News at 11, with Gator pics!
(Score: 0, Spam) by Multiass on Friday September 23 2022, @08:35AM
Just dropping by to point out that "Two Guns" Runaway is an asshole. He should be kicked, banned, and spindled.