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I hear it time and again - call 911, wait for the police, the police are trained, the police have skills that you don't have, there is no need to carry a weapon to defend yourself, trust the police. Watch the video, (age restricted, maybe safe for work, no real blood and gore that I can see) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfAHfWr6vvA titled "Denver police body camera footage shows officers shoot gunman, six bystanders in LoDo".
Yeah, that's a killer of a title, right? Six shots fired, seven people wounded, only one of whom was considered a suspect. Awesome, huh?
Story is elaborated here, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/video-shows-denver-cops-wound-six-bystanders-in-addition-to-the-bad-guy-out-of-six-rounds-fired/
Denver police officers faced an armed bad guy who drew down on them in the midst of a busy bar crowd at 1:35 a.m. The cops engaged, firing their sidearms, scoring seven hits out of six rounds fired. That represents a remarkable 117% hit rate. The only problem is that six of the seven people who were wounded soaked up rounds meant for the bad guy.
They surely don’t appreciate DPD’s marksmanship skilles, or lack thereof.
Yes, there’s that pesky fourth rule of gun safety: Know your target and what’s beyond it. For the record, that even applies to the staple guns you’re using to put up your targets at the range. But for good guys everywhere, firing anything except carefully controlled shots at a bad actor who’s surrounded by innocents could probably be described more as negligence than exigence.
Maybe Denver Police should hire a guy like Elisjsha Dicken to coach them up on their marksmanship skills. He’s the guy without any formal training who took down a rifle-toting lunatic shooting people in a crowded mall in Indiana. Dicken scored eight hits out of ten shots fired, wounding no innocents by mistake, at up to 40 yards away.
Here’s the dirty laundry on the horrific incident from the Denver Post.
Denver police on Tuesday released surveillance video and body camera footage of three officers shooting an armed man and injuring six innocent bystanders outside busy downtown bars on July 17.
The videos for the first time show from start to finish the shooting, which will be investigated by a grand jury. Denver police officials previously made public still images they selected from the videos but denied public records requests by The Denver Post and other news outlets to release the videos in their entirety…
Denver police previously said Waddy was holding the gun by the slide on the top when the officers fired. It’s not clear if Waddy could have fired the gun while holding it that way, Cmdr. Matt Clark said at a July 20 news conference. He said the officers believed the muzzle of the gun pointed at them as Waddy pulled it out.
Two officers shot a combined five rounds while facing Waddy with the front wall of Larimer Beer Hall behind him. A third officer fired one round from Waddy’s right side and a crowd of people is visible behind Waddy in the officer’s body camera footage.
“The Department of Safety and Denver Police Department remain concerned about the health and well-being of those who were injured in this incident and will continue to offer support to aid in their healing,” the departments said in a joint statement Tuesday.
Maybe Denver’s police need to spend more time on the fundamentals of handgun safety and marksmanship and less in “woke” racial/implicit bias training.
Denver post article here https://www.denverpost.com/2022/08/16/denver-police-lodo-shooting-video/
I think this is the exact same video, there may be some minor differences. https://youtu.be/BfAHfWr6vvA
Oh yeah. Definition of a mass shooting varies from one source to another. Here we have 4 or more innocents injured as the result of a single incident. I'll call it a mass shooting, despite the fact that no one died. Well, I'll call it that this time. But I'll call out the lame stream media all the same when they inappropriately designate the next shooting as a mass shooting.
Don't you wish you lived in the city of Denver, where you can trust the highly trained cops to protect you from bad guys?
Oh - one more thing.
Denver police previously said Waddy was holding the gun by the slide on the top when the officers fired. It’s not clear if Waddy could have fired the gun while holding it that way, Cmdr. Matt Clark said at a July 20 news conference. He said the officers believed the muzzle of the gun pointed at them as Waddy pulled it out.
Did Mr. Waddy actually assault anyone, or not? This looks a lot like a "Nigga wid a gun" situation. It does NOT appear that Mr. Waddy pointed, aimed, or otherwise attempted to use his weapon - it appears that he was holding it by the slide, and tossing it away from himself, when he was struck by the first shot. "Nigga wid a gun! BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG" no questions asked.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @04:01PM (11 children)
Dude! Why aren't you enlightening us about the school shooting in Russia [go.com]?
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"...If I had a rocket launcher some son of a bitch would die..." -Bruce Cockburn [genius.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @04:25PM
Those children are combatants.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @04:43PM
Russia is an alternate reality.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday September 26 2022, @06:34PM (5 children)
At least the school shooter didn't use nuclear weapons.
While Republicans can get over Trump's sexual assaults, affairs, and vulgarity; they cannot get over Obama being black.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @07:10PM
This might be the one shooting today I can get behind!
Gunman attacks Russian military recruiter as thousands flee mobilization [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @10:22PM (3 children)
... yet, assuming your're referring to Puketin who has killed countless scores of school children in his killing of thousands of innocent Ukrainians.
(Score: 1, Troll) by Freeman on Tuesday September 27 2022, @01:43PM (2 children)
You say countless, then you say scores, then you say thousands. Make up your mind or at least make a reasonably useful argument or accusation. Instead of going with the "think of the children" aspect, for the feels.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 28 2022, @10:50PM
No, I wrote "countless", because we don't know how many, and we may never know how many because who knows how many people have "disappeared", such that there's no trace or traceability of them. But we know scores, at this point, for sure. How many mass graves will be discovered in the next 200 years?
For sure most of the world agrees that Putin is a criminal of the worst kind. And for sure, it's not just the children, it's anyone he has killed in Ukraine. Russia too for that matter, and anywhere else he has power and murderers.
Why defend him?
Regarding your inane crack about "feels" and children, read the post I was responding to, k? Context. It's a thing.
(Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Thursday September 29 2022, @09:10AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @07:07PM (2 children)
Must be the swastika shirt he was wearing. If he'd have gotten his hands on a Camp Auschwitz hoodie Runaway would be actively defending him .....,but alas!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @09:02PM (1 child)
Antifa has preempted the Camp Auschwitz hoodie.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday September 28 2022, @10:02PM
Uh...good?
Anti Fascists preempting Camp Auschwitz sounds like a win to me!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @06:08PM (14 children)
So the people with actual training were busy accidentally shooting innocent bystanders and you think there should have been MORE people firing into the crowd!
(Score: 5, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @06:11PM (2 children)
Whelp, last time DPD shot a bunch of innocent bystanders at a food truck festival the response was to ban the food trucks!
(Score: 5, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @06:14PM
Some background on that clusterfuck if anybody cares:
Food Truck Owner Starts Petition to Lift Ban on Doing Business in LoDo and Ballpark [westword.com]
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday September 27 2022, @07:41PM
Please remember that there ARE some good police officers!
It is a simple fact that 99% of police officers give the rest a bad name.
While Republicans can get over Trump's sexual assaults, affairs, and vulgarity; they cannot get over Obama being black.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @07:11PM (9 children)
Who, exactly, said that any of the shootings by DPD was "accidental"? Firearms don't fire accidentally. You might have a negligent discharge, and all of these shots fired fit that description. The police were negligent. Criminally negligent. They fired their weapons intentionally, knowing that they couldn't predict where their shots would hit. They fired almost randomly into a crowd of people. But, most importantly, they fired intentionally. If they were all epileptic, or had some condition that caused their muscles to spasm on the trigger, something really crazy, THEN you might call these shootings "accidental". Except, it would still be negligent discharge, because it would be negligent for a person with such a condition to carry a loaded weapon.
Any non-LEO citizen who shot six other people, in the process of subduing a person who didn't even assault them, would be facing charges with a potential life sentence.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday September 26 2022, @08:51PM (8 children)
Logically speaking I know it's impossible for ALL cops to be bastards but the DPD is tryin' their damndest!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @09:14PM (3 children)
Fascinating...
FTWiki:
Sounds like a switch is in order
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @10:15PM (2 children)
Shhhh!! No facts nor reality allowed in here. This is a liberal fantasyland. Go spread your vaccine against lunacy elsewhere.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @10:25PM (1 child)
This is a
liberaldemocrat fantasyland (you're welcome), in a Runaway journal? Wow, the magnetic poles really have flipped(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 27 2022, @04:45AM
Redundant
Boom boom boom... Democrat mod squad goes to town! Hey all!!
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @10:18PM (3 children)
Seeing what the culture and demeanor of policing has become, I think only assholes and bastards are interested in the job.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Tuesday September 27 2022, @01:53PM (2 children)
Please don't let the idiot, sensationalist journalists be ruining your views on police in general. Yes, there are bad eggs and maybe there are (nearly) entirely bad police departments.
The only police officers I've personally known are good people. That's a biased sampling of data, but it's certainly no less biased than the "journalism" we see on TV. Well, I say "we", but I really mean the average TV watcher. I've not watched TV for a very long time. There are way too many advertisements, nearly everything the news reports on is "literally everything bad that's going on today" and they're biased. Sure, we need news reporting to a certain degree, but with the advent of the cellphone camera and youtube. Pretty much everyone in the world is a potential "journalist".
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Interesting) by krishnoid on Wednesday September 28 2022, @01:48AM
In that case, what are those officers' opinions on the bad apples?
(Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 28 2022, @07:57PM
As Krishnoid asks, what are the "good cops" views on "bad cops"?
I've mentioned that my sister is a retired state police. Our views mesh on a lot of things, but she only gives lip service to tossing bad cops into prison. She actually believes in that immunity bullshit, and she'll step up to protect a fellow officer before she'll concern herself with "civilians".
I happen to think that Sis is one of the best cops. I actually witnessed her deescalating situations over the years, where a male cop would likely have only escalated things. But, she supports the police unions, and I'm dead set against them. She supports a lot of crap for police, most of which are bullshit. And she sure as HELL doesn't want to see community members or organizations doing investigations into police affairs. All of that should stay super-secret, behind closed doors, without any media coverage.
Sis could be a better cop than she is. All she would need do, is come over to my side, and insist on community involvement, and complete transparency into the force. She simply can't, or won't, understand that her positions only protect the bad cops.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 26 2022, @10:43PM
The only people interested in shooting anyone were wearing uniforms. Not even the armed suspect wanted to shoot anyone. Which part of that did you fail to understand?
(Score: 2, Spam) by Wendigo on Wednesday September 28 2022, @01:58AM
Two-gun Runaway is at it again, with another Murder-Death-Kill voyeuristic journal entry? And banning all posts that might be critical? Hiding behind janrinok's skirts, still. Coward.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 05 2022, @04:49PM